Jetsfan80 Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 Since 1983, only 24 % of NFL teams that lost their first game made the playoffs. Now, due to the lockout making things crazy this season, its possible that much higher or lower a percentage of Week 1 losers will make the postseason. But let's say that this season the numbers hold up. That means that only FOUR teams who lost in Week 1 will end up in the postseason. So which 4 do you think will get in? My choices are in bold. NOTE: Keep in mind that at least ONE of these teams must come from the NFC South, seeing as each team in their entire division lost this weekend. The losers: Miami Dolphins Pittsburgh Steelers Cleveland Browns Tennessee Titans Indianapolis Colts Kansas City Chiefs Denver Broncos New York Giants Dallas Cowboys Minnesota Vikings New Orleans Saints Tampa Bay Buccaneers Carolina Panthers Atlanta Falcons Seattle Seahawks St. Louis Rams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vicious89x Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 Saints. That division is still winnable for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obrien2Toon Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 Pitt, No, Dall or Atl, not both. Won't be 4 this year. SF wins the West. Detroit gets the 2nd wildcard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 Steelers and Saints will bounce back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoping4ASuperBowl Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 Pitt, No, Dall or Atl, not both. Won't be 4 this year. SF wins the West. Detroit gets the 2nd wildcard. Unless Bradford is out for the year, I don't see this happening. I'm gonna go St. Louis, Dallas, Saints, and Pit. Detroit still gets that second wild card while SF completely misses it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiFtheOracle Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 Since 1983, only 24 % of NFL teams that lost their first game made the playoffs. Now, due to the lockout making things crazy this season, its possible that much higher or lower a percentage of Week 1 losers will make the postseason. But let's say that this season the numbers hold up. That means that only FOUR teams who lost in Week 1 will end up in the postseason. So which 4 do you think will get in? My choices are in bold. NOTE: Keep in mind that at least ONE of these teams must come from the NFC South, seeing as each team in their entire division lost this weekend. The losers: Miami Dolphins Pittsburgh Steelers Cleveland Browns Tennessee Titans Indianapolis Colts Kansas City Chiefs Denver Broncos New York Giants Dallas Cowboys Minnesota Vikings New Orleans Saints Tampa Bay Buccaneers Carolina Panthers Atlanta Falcons Seattle Seahawks St. Louis Rams Interesting. I'd say Falcons, Saints - one will win the division the other will make the WC. Then I'd say Steelers and Giants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoping4ASuperBowl Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 Interesting. I'd say Falcons, Saints - one will win the division the other will make the WC. Then I'd say Steelers and Giants. The Giants? Even after all of their injuries and Eli's still erratic play? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted September 14, 2011 Author Share Posted September 14, 2011 Interesting. I'd say Falcons, Saints - one will win the division the other will make the WC. Then I'd say Steelers and Giants. JiF, you forgot to put "tl;dr" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted September 14, 2011 Author Share Posted September 14, 2011 The Giants? Even after all of their injuries and Eli's still erratic play? Yeah I think the Giants are done. Usually they start strong and limp to the finish line. Right now they're already limping. They just lost a divisional game against a team they usually own (I think they'd won something like 8 of the past 10 matchups?). Coughlin will be the first head coach fired this season, I'd say. Only reason he's still there is the lockout; teams needed to maintain continuity if at all possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiFtheOracle Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 The Giants? Even after all of their injuries and Eli's still erratic play? Yep. I think once they get healthy they will win the division. Why? I have no clue. Its just my call. JiF, you forgot to put "tl;dr" Eventhough I h8u. I've actually liked your recent topics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoping4ASuperBowl Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 Yep. I think once they get healthy they will win the division. Why? I have no clue. Its just my call. Eventhough I h8u. I've actually liked your recent topics. But half those players that are injured are on IR. Given, the Giants still have a great DL and will have a lot of success at getting to the QB. But the secondary and now Nicks is hurt, who btw, I'm kicking myself for drafting that twig. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiFtheOracle Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 But half those players that are injured are on IR. Given, the Giants still have a great DL and will have a lot of success at getting to the QB. But the secondary and now Nicks is hurt, who btw, I'm kicking myself for drafting that twig. Oh, I though I heard a bunch of players were coming back/getting healthy. And didnt the test come back negative for Nicks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted September 14, 2011 Author Share Posted September 14, 2011 Oh, I though I heard a bunch of players were coming back/getting healthy. And didnt the test come back negative for Nicks? They did come back negative and he is listed as questionable for Monday night. He'll probably play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoping4ASuperBowl Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 Oh, I though I heard a bunch of players were coming back/getting healthy. And didnt the test come back negative for Nicks? Nicks tests did come back negative but he's doubtful and has had a tough time staying healthy ever since he got into the NFL. He's not very durable and I'm sure his knee issue will linger. As far as everyone else, this is what I was just looking at for reference: http://www.rotoworld.com/teams/injuries/nfl/nyg/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoping4ASuperBowl Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 They did come back negative and he is listed as questionable for Monday night. He'll probably play. https://twitter.com/#!/evansilva/statuses/113738949645713408 I got the impression he was more or less doubtful but maybe I'm interpreting it wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted September 14, 2011 Author Share Posted September 14, 2011 Nicks tests did come back negative but he's doubtful and has had a tough time staying healthy ever since he got into the NFL. He's not very durable and I'm sure his knee issue will linger. As far as everyone else, this is what I was just looking at for reference: http://www.rotoworld...juries/nfl/nyg/ The source for Nicks being "doubtful" was John Clayton. Enough said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoping4ASuperBowl Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 The source for Nicks being "doubtful" was John Clayton. Enough said. Haha. True. But still im pessimistic about him being that he's one of my top WR's in my money league and I have no luck with fantasy football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted September 14, 2011 Author Share Posted September 14, 2011 Haha. True. But still im pessimistic about him being that he's one of my top WR's in my money league and I have no luck with fantasy football. Maybe you just suck. After all, you did draft Hakeem Nicks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoping4ASuperBowl Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 Maybe you just suck. After all, you did draft Hakeem Nicks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newyorkgiants10 Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 nicks will play monday night, also they get tuck back monday and they are even saying osi could be back this week.. if they stay healthy among dline that group will be a force.. tuck is obviously nasty, osi is a great pass rushing de and jpp is coming into his own, add in that canty is playing good for them and linvall joseph knows how to collapse a pocket and get a solid push, that dline will be huge for there dfence.. i expect them to also play better in the secondary, they have some good players in rolle cwebb and kphill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted September 14, 2011 Author Share Posted September 14, 2011 It's OK, I used to suck at fantasy football too. Then one word changed everything. VOLUME. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoping4ASuperBowl Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 It's OK, I used to suck at fantasy football too. Then one word changed everything. VOLUME. I have some backups but yeah I think I need more volume. I currently have, Dez Bryant, Steve Johnson, Knox, Malcom Floyd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted September 14, 2011 Author Share Posted September 14, 2011 I have some backups but yeah I think I need more volume. I currently have, Dez Bryant, Steve Johnson, Knox, Malcom Floyd. No, I'm not talking about depth. I'm talking about taking players who will have the most opportunities to make plays. A # 1 receiver, even if he's only average by NFL standards, could still get more points than a more talented player who has competition to see the ball. Hence why the WR's I have in my main league are all pretty much the only legit options for their respective teams (Kenny Britt, Brandon Lloyd, Anquan Boldin, Percy Harvin). Same with my RB's (Ray Rice, Michael Turner, Felix Jones, Fred Jackson, Cedric Benson). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoping4ASuperBowl Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 No, I'm not talking about depth. I'm talking about taking players who will have the most opportunities to make plays. A # 1 receiver, even if he's only average by NFL standards, could still get more points than a more talented player who has competition to see the ball. Hence why the WR's I have in my main league are all pretty much the only legit options for their respective teams (Kenny Britt, Brandon Lloyd, Anquan Boldin, Percy Harvin). Same with my RB's (Ray Rice, Michael Turner, Felix Jones, Fred Jackson, Cedric Benson). Good point. Are you in a ppr league? Cause some players are better depending on the type of league you are in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted September 14, 2011 Author Share Posted September 14, 2011 Good point. Are you in a ppr league? Cause some players are better depending on the type of league you are in. Nah. I hate PPR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 Steelers Saints Falcons Rams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted September 14, 2011 Author Share Posted September 14, 2011 We may re-visit this topic next week and see which of these teams end up 0-2. Since 1978, only 11.6 % of 0-2 teams have made the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 Since 1983, only 24 % of NFL teams that lost their first game made the playoffs. Now, due to the lockout making things crazy this season, its possible that much higher or lower a percentage of Week 1 losers will make the postseason. But let's say that this season the numbers hold up. That means that only FOUR teams who lost in Week 1 will end up in the postseason. So which 4 do you think will get in? My choices are in bold. NOTE: Keep in mind that at least ONE of these teams must come from the NFC South, seeing as each team in their entire division lost this weekend. The losers: Miami Dolphins Pittsburgh Steelers Cleveland Browns Tennessee Titans Indianapolis Colts Kansas City Chiefs Denver Broncos New York Giants Dallas Cowboys Minnesota Vikings New Orleans Saints Tampa Bay Buccaneers Carolina Panthers Atlanta Falcons Seattle Seahawks St. Louis Rams New Orleans, Dallas, Atlanta. There won't be four this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barcs Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 Misleading stats are misleading... I hate the whole, "OH this hasn't happened since 1980" so it suddenly matters. Stats like that are selectively manipulated, taken from a selective time period, usually to somehow say it indicates reality. It does not. The Cowboys haven't blown a 14 point 4th quarter lead and lost EVER, until the Jets. Jets never won in Pittsburgh, until last season. Guess who lost the 1st game last season and still made playoffs? We did, so the Colts AND the Eagles AND Atlanta. What matters is how good the team is RIGHT NOW and whether they have a realistic shot of making it. Trying to figure a percentage is bad logic. Chiefs, Falcons, Giants, Cowboys, Steelers and Rams have a decent chance of making it. 1 game is 1 game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newyorkgiants10 Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 Misleading stats are misleading... I hate the whole, "OH this hasn't happened since 1980" so it suddenly matters. Stats like that are selectively manipulated, taken from a selective time period, usually to somehow say it indicates reality. It does not. The Cowboys haven't blown a 14 point 4th quarter lead and lost EVER, until the Jets. Jets never won in Pittsburgh, until last season. Guess who lost the 1st game last season and still made playoffs? We did, so the Colts AND the Eagles AND Atlanta. What matters is how good the team is RIGHT NOW and whether they have a realistic shot of making it. Trying to figure a percentage is bad logic. Chiefs, Falcons, Giants, Cowboys, Steelers and Rams have a decent chance of making it. 1 game is 1 game. you are 100% right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted September 14, 2011 Author Share Posted September 14, 2011 Misleading stats are misleading... I hate the whole, "OH this hasn't happened since 1980" so it suddenly matters. Stats like that are selectively manipulated, taken from a selective time period, usually to somehow say it indicates reality. It does not. The Cowboys haven't blown a 14 point 4th quarter lead and lost EVER, until the Jets. Jets never won in Pittsburgh, until last season. Guess who lost the 1st game last season and still made playoffs? We did, so the Colts AND the Eagles AND Atlanta. What matters is how good the team is RIGHT NOW and whether they have a realistic shot of making it. Trying to figure a percentage is bad logic. Chiefs, Falcons, Giants, Cowboys, Steelers and Rams have a decent chance of making it. 1 game is 1 game. lol. It's called odds man, it doesn't mean they always come true. This is a large sample we're talking about. Over the course of nearly 30 years of football, starting 0-1 has been a death blow for about 10-12 teams ever year. Of course it matters if its a trend, and its not illogical. If this is the year a bunch of teams buck that trend, cool. Can you honestly say the numbers won't line up pretty closely this year as well? Do you really think teams like the Chiefs, Broncos, Colts or Seahawks have any shot at making the postseason? They looked like bad teams out there. Also, you mentioned 4 teams that lost their first game and made the postseason last year. Well that's 25 % of the teams that started 0-1. Looks like the numbers are correct after all, huh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanFromQueens Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 I wouldn't be shocked to see the Steelers miss the playoffs out right. The Ravens could end up becoming a 13-3, 12-4 type of team. They're defense is forreal and their offense has been improving over the years. This isn't the Raven days of the early 2000's, where the defense had to win out right. This offense is an offense that can take over drives, quarters and games. I love Flacco under center, and I respect the hell out of this kid from Rutgers in Ray Rice. Not saying that it'll happen, but if the Ravens beat the Steelers to complete the two game sweep, the Steelers find themself back of the Ravens by two full games, plus the head to head tie breaker. In that scenario, the Ravens going 13-3 or 12-4 and actually sweeping the Steelers? Say good night to the Steelers chances of winning the AFC North. Someone has to win the AFC West. I've made it known time and time again, during the offseason, that the AFC West goes through the Chargers. What the Chiefs did last year was impressive, but they could have also been a product of a weaker schedule. As it stands, the Chargers and Ravens could both finish ahead of the Steelers. Say the Jets and Patriots both make the playoffs, for the 3rd consecutive year out of the AFC East, that leaves the Ravens, Chargers, Jets and Patriots all ahead of the Steelers. 4 teams. Only 2 spots left. Give the Houston Texans the AFC South just for an example, because we all know it's won't become the Colts without #18. 1 spot left. It's a dog-fight from there. Raiders could become a serious player out of the AFC. Same can be said about the Steelers etc, etc, but... You never know when it's only week 1. To make a long story short, if the Steelers lose to the 0-1 Seahawks this sunday, being 0-2? It won't be easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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