Jetsfan80 Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 A good chance? Really... like 25% chance? What an empty response. I'm no math wiz, but wouldn't the chance that we're BOTH scum be under 10 %? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 Fantastic response. Why don't you explain the "good chance" they both could be scum... given that your a logic, balance, pragmatic type... that response seems grossly naive, and out of character. Okay, the game has 27 players are 4 are dead, correct? (Nolder, Leelou, Pac, and CTM). That leaves 23. In a standard 16 game there is 4 scum (25%) and 1 other anti-town player. That's 31.25% antitown roles. Right now, with no antitown players dead, that's perhaps 8 to 9 antitown roles still alive, which is 35% to 40% of the remaining players. As to the specific players, JF80 tried to pull the scummy play of pinning the deaths of Leelou and Pac on specific players. CTM called him on it. Leelou, as a DM native is more likely to be killed early by another DMer. That's natural tendency IMO having played with DMers here on scum teams. They're more intune with the DM player threat. So both look scummy to me and fit in the numbers of what we think scum plus other anti town roles are. So, that's why I think there is a "good" chance both are scum. Now STFU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 Guess I'm in..... oh boy lol It's ok dude. If you need some help this thread from another mafia site is good place to find a mafia tutor. http://www.dragonmou...56-mafia-tutor/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 Welcome, Green! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 Okay, the game has 27 players are 4 are dead, correct? (Nolder, Leelou, Pac, and CTM). That leaves 23. In a standard 16 game there is 4 scum (25%) and 1 other anti-town player. That's 31.25% antitown roles. Right now, with no antitown players dead, that's perhaps 8 to 9 antitown roles still alive, which is 35% to 40% of the remaining players. As to the specific players, JF80 tried to pull the scummy play of pinning the deaths of Leelou and Pac on specific players. CTM called him on it. Leelou, as a DM native is more likely to be killed early by another DMer. That's natural tendency IMO having played with DMers here on scum teams. They're more intune with the DM player threat. So both look scummy to me and fit in the numbers of what we think scum plus other anti town roles are. So, that's why I think there is a "good" chance both are scum. Now STFU. DaMN!!!! Someone just caged the ape. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theguyingreenandwhite Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 Thanks for the welcome ill do my best to add what I can to the game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 If everyone could just catch him up lol. So here's what happened: 1. sh*tshow 2. ????? 3. Profit The end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theguyingreenandwhite Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 lol. So here's what happened: 1. sh*tshow 2. ????? 3. Profit The end. I started reading at page 1 and kept reading because I thought it was funny how everyone kept going at eachother lol .now I get to be part of it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 Okay, the game has 27 players are 4 are dead, correct? (Nolder, Leelou, Pac, and CTM). That leaves 23. In a standard 16 game there is 4 scum (25%) and 1 other anti-town player. That's 31.25% antitown roles. Right now, with no antitown players dead, that's perhaps 8 to 9 antitown roles still alive, which is 35% to 40% of the remaining players. Right, but your math only accounts for the odds of ONE of them being scum. There's a different formula for figuring the odds of BOTH being scum. Additionally, your response doesn't account for the FACT (one of the few facts we have so far) that CTM was a town symp converter. Which means that there is a player (or players) that can be converted to either the dark or good side of the force. Which completely skews the odds to a point where we can't accurately make statements about odds until we understand the setup better... I find it unlikely you overlooked this detail. As to the specific players, JF80 tried to pull the scummy play of pinning the deaths of Leelou and Pac on specific players. CTM called him on it. Leelou, as a DM native is more likely to be killed early by another DMer. That's natural tendency IMO having played with DMers here on scum teams. They're more intune with the DM player threat. So both look scummy to me and fit in the numbers of what we think scum plus other anti town roles are. So, that's why I think there is a "good" chance both are scum. Now STFU. I also called JF80 on the same thing in bold. I'm not dead. Ironically, it looks to me like you are doing the same scummy thing trying to pin the CTM death on 80. Frankly, this reeks like a setup. As for what you're saying about a DM player taking out Leelou... there you go again, doing the same scummy thing trying to pin the Leelou death on a single player from DM... when there are how many DM players in this game? Unvote Vote SMC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 I started reading at page 1 and kept reading because I thought it was funny how everyone kept going at eachother lol .now I get to be part of it First order of business your name is kinda long. Need a nickname. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 Right, but your math only accounts for the odds of ONE of them being scum. There's a different formula for figuring the odds of BOTH being scum. Additionally, your response doesn't account for the FACT (one of the few facts we have so far) that CTM was a town symp converter. Which means that there is a player (or players) that can be converted to either the dark or good side of the force. Which completely skews the odds to a point where we can't accurately make statements about odds until we understand the setup better... I find it unlikely you overlooked this detail. I also called JF80 on the same thing in bold. I'm not dead. Ironically, it looks to me like you are doing the same scummy thing trying to pin the CTM death on 80. Frankly, this reeks like a setup. As for what you're saying about a DM player taking out Leelou... there you go again, doing the same scummy thing trying to pin the Leelou death on a single player from DM... when there are how many DM players in this game? Unvote Vote SMC Nice retort. SMC the jury is yours........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theguyingreenandwhite Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 First order of business your name is kinda long. Need a nickname. true you could just call me by my name which is Joe if it makes it any better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StraightCash Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 Alright green n white what's your deal? Old grump man like bg? Secretly an attractive Asian lady like Dan? Drunken gambler like ctm, or homo like jif? PS, ladyfriends bday today, won't be around much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 First order of business your name is kinda long. Need a nickname. How about Greenguy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 Roster: 1. Crusher 2. StraightCash 3. Vic 4. Sharrow 5. Hess 6. JiF 7. Ape 8. Klecko 9. Pac - Killed Night 1 - R2D2 (Rebel, mason) 10. Verbal 11. Nolder - Killed Day 1 - Princess Leia (Rebel, watcher) 12. Leelou - Killed Night 1 - Mon Mothma (Rebel, roleless) 13. AVM 14. 80 15. CTM - Killed Day 2 - Obi-Wan Kenobi (Rebel, symp finder) 16. Migisi 17. Song 18. JC 19. WWWWombat 20. Dan X 21. JVOR 22. Sakaea 23. Lily 24. Smash 25. SMC 26. DPR 27. Nae We started with 10 DM players. Anyone insisting that Wombat shot Leelou because they are both DM players is talking out their a$$. Anyone on that list other than Nolder could have shot Leelou. She died on N1, was an uninformative target, and frankly shooting her creates a perfect "it must have been the new people from DM going after a familiar foe" wifom. This game is rich with a lot of scummy "this person was killed, so I think this person did it" speculation. More than I've seen in a game in a long time here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 Alright green n white what's your deal? Old grump man like bg? Secretly an attractive Asian lady like Dan? Drunken gambler like ctm, or homo like jif? PS, ladyfriends bday today, won't be around much. God help us if he's like me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theguyingreenandwhite Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 Alright green n white what's your deal? Old grump man like bg? Secretly an attractive Asian lady like Dan? Drunken gambler like ctm, or homo like jif? PS, ladyfriends bday today, won't be around much. nope not old just a 24 yr old jet fan transplanted to sw Florida when I was to young to have a choice lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 Right, but your math only accounts for the odds of ONE of them being scum. There's a different formula for figuring the odds of BOTH being scum. Additionally, your response doesn't account for the FACT (one of the few facts we have so far) that CTM was a town symp converter. Which means that there is a player (or players) that can be converted to either the dark or good side of the force. Which completely skews the odds to a point where we can't accurately make statements about odds until we understand the setup better... I find it unlikely you overlooked this detail. I also called JF80 on the same thing in bold. I'm not dead. Ironically, it looks to me like you are doing the same scummy thing trying to pin the CTM death on 80. Frankly, this reeks like a setup. As for what you're saying about a DM player taking out Leelou... there you go again, doing the same scummy thing trying to pin the Leelou death on a single player from DM... when there are how many DM players in this game? Unvote Vote SMC Oh dear, the fact that CTM was a town symp converter means that the odds are greater that there are 9 antitown roles than 8. In other words, the symp, with CTM dead is essentially scum, who couldve only be saved by Obi Wan. And, the point on JF80 is different from what I said about WWWombat because JF80 came out of the bat doing it. Also, why are you trying to derail things from WWWombat and 80? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted February 2, 2012 Author Share Posted February 2, 2012 Vote Count 80 (3) - SMC, Wombat, Migisi Lily (2) - Nae, Sakaea Dan (1) - JiF Smash (2) - Crusher, Vic Wombat (10) - Dan, JVOR, AVM, 80, Lily, Brett, Klecko, DPR, JC, Smash Brett (1) - Sharrow Theguy (1) - Hess SMC (1) - Ape With 23 players alive, it takes 12 to lynch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted February 2, 2012 Author Share Posted February 2, 2012 First order of business your name is kinda long. Need a nickname. Exactly, I just opted to go with "Theguy" for vote count purposes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theguyingreenandwhite Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 How about Greenguy? that works if thats what you all want to call me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 Is WWWombat going to reveal or what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 true you could just call me by my name which is Joe if it makes it any better Klecko will be pleased. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 Exactly, I just opted to go with "Theguy" for vote count purposes. As the moderator says it is. "Theguy" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vicious89x Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 TGGW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theguyingreenandwhite Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 As the moderator says it is. "Theguy" that works also lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted February 2, 2012 Author Share Posted February 2, 2012 nope not old just a 24 yr old jet fan transplanted to sw Florida when I was to young to have a choice lol Cape Coral isn't too bad of a place to be stuck. My dad lives down there, so I've been there plenty. Of course I don't really know what it's like to actually live down there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theguyingreenandwhite Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 Vote Count 80 (3) - SMC, Wombat, Migisi Lily (2) - Nae, Sakaea Dan (1) - JiF Smash (2) - Crusher, Vic Wombat (10) - Dan, JVOR, AVM, 80, Lily, Brett, Klecko, DPR, JC, Smash Brett (1) - Sharrow Theguy (1) - Hess SMC (1) - Ape With 23 players alive, it takes 12 to lynch. Just started and hess already wants to kill me lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted February 2, 2012 Author Share Posted February 2, 2012 Klecko will be pleased. Glad to see I wasn't the only person who immediately thought that. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted February 2, 2012 Author Share Posted February 2, 2012 Just started and hess already wants to kill me lol He actually wanted you killed before you even started. lol. He cast his vote in advance for whoever Song's replacement was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 true you could just call me by my name which is Joe if it makes it any better Unacceptable. You shall be called Mr. Shartley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theguyingreenandwhite Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 Cape Coral isn't too bad of a place to be stuck. My dad lives down there, so I've been there plenty. Of course I don't really know what it's like to actually live down there. Nah it's not to bad but I prefer to be back in new york. Plus I work for the city here and people tend to not like us much lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 Just started and hess already wants to kill me lol Welcome to JN Mafia. You don't know what you've gotten yourself into. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 We started with 10 DM players. Anyone insisting that Wombat shot Leelou because they are both DM players is talking out their a$$. Anyone on that list other than Nolder could have shot Leelou. She died on N1, was an uninformative target, and frankly shooting her creates a perfect "it must have been the new people from DM going after a familiar foe" wifom. This game is rich with a lot of scummy "this person was killed, so I think this person did it" speculation. More than I've seen in a game in a long time here. Math was obviously never your strong suit. There are 10 DM players, 1 being Leelou, who was town. That means there are 9 other DM players. Nolder was also town. So that leaves 8 other DM players who are potentially scum/anti-town. So is it only 1 of the remaining 8 are scum? That's 12 percent. How about 2 out of 8? That's 25%. So, we're talking about 25 % of the remaining players couldve had a hand in Leelou's death. Good odds, don't you say? Now, again, how many times have you played with the DMers on a scum team? It is natural, based on familiarity, to view a fellow DMer in a suspicious light, such (from scum POV) that they have a power role, are hiding something, or the proverbial "he/she always comes after me." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 I say once we get Wombat's reveal we send SMC to his thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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