flgreen Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 No. 1 on draft wish list -- pass rusher March, 18, 2012 Mar 18 5:00 AM ET By Rich Cimini Notes, thoughts and observations on the Jets and the NFL: 1. If the Jets sign a veteran safety in free agency -- Reggie Nelson? -- it will give them more flexibility in the draft. The No. 1 item on their wish list is pass rusher. Rex Ryan has told friends he absolutely wants to add a blue-chip rusher to his defense, sources said. They really like Courtney Upshaw (Alabama), Melvin Ingram (South Carolina) and Andre Branch (Clemson). This is a must-get for the Jets, who have ignored the pass rush for too long. 2. The Jets have seven draft picks, one in each round, according to the team. There's also a chance they could receive a compensatory pick for free-agent losses in 2011. 3. The team continues to shop LB Bart Scott in trade talks, source said, but his $4.2 million guaranteed salary is a deal breaker. Scott's days with the team appear numbered. If they dump Scott, you have to wonder if ILB Luke Kuechly (Boston College) becomes a consideration with the 16th pick. 4. Drew Stanton, the Jets' new backup QB, already has won a game for the Jets. In Week 9 of the 2010 season, he replaced an injured Matthew Stafford with about six minutes to go, with the Lions leading, 20-10. Coming out of the two-minute warning, Stanton ran a third-down bootleg, but instead of simply falling down and taking the sack, he threw an ill-advised incompletion to stop the clock. His brain cramp saved the Jets, who had no timeouts remaining, from certain defeat -- and they rallied to win in OT. Maybe the Jets felt like they owed him one. 5. Loved Ralph Wilson's comments to the Buffalo News the other day on the signing of stud DE Mario Williams. "I'd like to see us make the playoffs and possibly the Super Bowl while I'm around," Wilson, 93, told the newspaper. "I don't expect to be around that many years ... I don't give a darn about the money. I can't take it with me." It reminded me of Leon Hess's famous news conference in 1995, when he pronounced, "I'm 80 years old and I want results now." For the Bills' sake, they'd better hope it works out better than the Hess declaration. That news conference was to introduced Rich Kotite and ... well, you know the rest. 6. Speaking of Williams, the Bills said they will use him at left end. That could be a problem for the Jets, considering their issues at right tackle. Wayne Hunter remains on the roster, but I'm told Vladimir Ducasse will get every opportunity to win the starting job. 7. Woody Johnson took some grief (at least in the twitter-sphere) for saying in a TV interview that the Jets "passed on" Peyton Manning. It probably wasn't the best choice of words, but he was right. As I wrote at the start of the Peyton sweepstakes, the Jets formulated their entire off-season blueprint around Mark Sanchez and would've tossed it only if Manning threw himself at the Jets -- and that was NEVER going to happen. 8. The Jets must feel confident in Bryan Thomas's Achilles-tendon rehab because they guaranteed about $600,000 on his one-year contract. He's only five months removed from surgery, but he still has four months to training camp. This signing sends a positive message to the locker room, a departure from last year when they dumped elder statesman-type leaders -- i.e. Shaun Ellis, Damien Woody, et al. 9. Hey, Peyton, decide already. This is getting old. 10. Nice signing by the Patriots, picking up WR Brandon Lloyd. He's the outside threat that Tom Brady has lacked. Adios, Ochocinco. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 Ingram, Nick Perry, or Vinny Curry ftw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 Aaah yeah ya ******* think Rich. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 3. The team continues to shop LB Bart Scott in trade talks, source said, but his $4.2 million guaranteed salary is a deal breaker. Scott's days with the team appear numbered. If they dump Scott, you have to wonder if ILB Luke Kuechly (Boston College) becomes a consideration with the 16th pick. Kuechly is not really a fit for the 3-4. If they dump scott, i think they could target Hightower. People have him going late in the round to BAL or NYG, but he's actually a rare 3-4 ILB that should go about 10 slots higher. he's big, he sorts through trash, he takes on guards. He's a great fit for the Rex D. the lowest he goes is PIT at 24. That being said I don't think he's as good as Harris who was a 2nd rounder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 Ingram, Upshaw, Mercilus, Branch. I wont be mad...though I think Branch would be a reach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 think Branch would be a reach. he would be. decent shot he's their 2nd round target at 47 if they don't go OLB in 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 he would be. decent shot he's their 2nd round target at 47 if they don't go OLB in 1. What about doubling up on OLB/pass rushers? Most likely this is Pace's last season here as well. I've been thinking of Billy Winn as a pass rusher on the DL too...might go in the top two rounds though and can't see them going DL that early. I think he's got Darnell Dockett upside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonEJet Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 he would be. decent shot he's their 2nd round target at 47 if they don't go OLB in 1. they'd have to move up in the 2nd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GREENBEAN Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 they'd have to move up in the 2nd We may be able to with compensatory picks we should be getting. up to a 5th rdr and a few 6-7 rd picks i read somewhere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted March 18, 2012 Author Share Posted March 18, 2012 We may be able to with compensatory picks we should be getting. up to a 5th rdr and a few 6-7 rd picks i read somewhere Can't trade compensatory picks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 Can't trade compensatory picks Can trade the other picks and use comp picks as supplementary picks. Easy as pie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GREENBEAN Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 Can't trade compensatory picks Yeah but then you aren't left with nothing when you trade your own like we usually experience. I should have been more specific. that's actually what I meant. That they give us leverage to be able to move arond some in the draft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 Yeah but then you aren't left with nothing when you trade your own like we usually experience. I should have been more specific. that's actually what I meant. That they give us leverage to be able to move arond some in the draft My next mock will have some of that going on for le heck of it. Future must read or sumtin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GREENBEAN Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 My next mock will have some of that going on for le heck of it. Future must read or sumtin. Its more fun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupz27 Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 What about doubling up on OLB/pass rushers? Most likely this is Pace's last season here as well. I've been thinking of Billy Winn as a pass rusher on the DL too...might go in the top two rounds though and can't see them going DL that early. I think he's got Darnell Dockett upside. The Jets probably need to double up at OLB/ILB in the first 4 rounds, that being said, the fact that people believe this to be the case, and the Jets having tens of millions wrapped up in these positions already (Scott, Harris, Pace, Thomas, Maybin), really pisses me off someone needs to get this sh*t straightened out, and fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 The Jets probably need to double up at OLB/ILB in the first 4 rounds, that being said, the fact that people believe this to be the case, and the Jets having tens of millions wrapped up in these positions already (Scott, Harris, Pace, Thomas, Maybin), really pisses me off someone needs to get this sh*t straightened out, and fast. Rookie cap = Stop managing their draft money too. They'll bring in talent if they feel the talent is there and fits. Pace and Scott are probably out next year...after that there's probably less than 3 million dollars committed to Maybin/Thomas, one of which is no lock to make the opening day roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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