kelly Posted January 6, 2017 Author Share Posted January 6, 2017 Rich CiminiESPN Staff Writer Jets GM Mike Maccagnan addressed his two young quarterbacks. On Bryce Petty: "I'm not going to speculate on what his ceiling may be. I think Bryce has a lot of potential. ... He has the physical ability to potentially develop into a starter. It's really up to him." On Christian Hackenberg: "We like Christian as a prospect. He's a young player; he's only 21 years old. He has made progress and he does have potential that we're focused on trying to make him develop." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 1 minute ago, kelly said: Rich CiminiESPN Staff Writer Jets GM Mike Maccagnan addressed his two young quarterbacks. On Bryce Petty: "I'm not going to speculate on what his ceiling may be. I think Bryce has a lot of potential. ... He has the physical ability to potentially develop into a starter. It's really up to him." On Christian Hackenberg: "We like Christian as a prospect. He's a young player; he's only 21 years old. He has made progress and he does have potential that we're focused on trying to make him develop." "we have no idea what these guys can do, so we're approaching the draft as if we have to find another qb to develop" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varjet Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 I think there was also a conclusion that the existing offensive staff was not up to the job of developing either or both of these QBs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelly Posted January 6, 2017 Author Share Posted January 6, 2017 10 minutes ago, Augustiniak said: "we have no idea what these guys can do, so we're approaching the draft as if we have to find another qb to develop" ... cheers ~ ~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 16 minutes ago, varjet said: I think there was also a conclusion that the existing offensive staff was not up to the job of developing either or both of these QBs. i think that's definitely something that was going on, esp. given the harsh anonymous comments about hack as they were leaving. they were blaming the players rather than themselves, which may ultimately prove true. that said, the offensive coaching staff the past 2 years was much more geared to fitz and not to the qbs they drafted after the coaches were hired. hopefully they choose wisely since they'll probably add another qb in the draft. hack has more time but i don't know how much more time petty has here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelly Posted January 6, 2017 Author Share Posted January 6, 2017 Jets' Mike Maccagnan says Christian Hackenberg made progress, but is it enough to start? New York Jets quarterback Christian Hackenberg speaks to reporters in the locker room of their training facility in Florham Park, N.J., Monday, Jan. 2, 2017. After ending a dismal season on a winning note with a 30-10 victory over the Buffalo Bills on Sunday, the Jets are making no changes in leadership heading into what appears will be a busy offseason. (AP Photo/Seth Wenig) PrintEmail By Connor Hughes | NJ Advance Media for NJ.com Email the author | Follow on Twitter on January 05, 2017 at 2:19 PM, updated January 05, 2017 at 2:33 PM FLORHAM PARK -- Even the man who drafted Christian Hackenberg seems divided on Christian Hackenberg. While Jets general manager Mike Maccagnan did say the rookie quarterback made "strides" and "progress" in the dreadful 2016 season, he stopped short when asked if Hackenberg could be a realistic option to start for the Jets in 2017. What to make of Jets' locker room dysfunction "This will be a big offseason for him," Maccagnan said. "We'll have a better feel for it when we get to training camp next year." Hackenberg, this year's second-round pick, is arguably the Jets' most polarizing player. A tall, smart, cannon-armed kid who says and does all the right things. But there are legitimate concerns he can actually play the quarterback position. In college at Penn State, he regressed from his breakout freshman season, to junior year campaign. It's why many scouts and executives believed he would be taken in the fifth-round. The Jets, though, nabbed him at pick No. 51. Woody Johnson's to-do list A look at what he must accomplish. At least based on his rookie season, it appears to have been a stretch. Hackenberg played in just two preseason games (had a 35.7 quarterback rating), and began the season as the fourth-string quarterback. The Jets didn't have him active for a game until Week 17 ... and that's only because Bryce Petty and Geno Smith suffered season-ending injuries. And it's not like Hackenberg was on the sideline as others lit it up. Ryan Fitzpatrick, Smith and Petty combined to throw 16 touchdowns and 25 interceptions for the 5-11 Jets. Meanwhile, in Dallas, quarterback Dak Prescott (taken two rounds after Hackenberg) has the Cowboys 13-3 and the NFC's top seed. Does Maccagnan regret taking Hackenberg when he did?"You make the best decision at the time," Maccagnan said. "I'm not necessarily in the business of looking back. We're focused on making sure Christian can develop into the player and fulfill the potential we think he has." It doesn't appear as if everyone at One Jets Drive shares the same sentiment. According to a report from ESPN, one anonymous Jets coach said Hackenberg "couldn't hit the ocean," and that he actually "regressed" this season. A damning assessment of a player many hope is the future at quarterback. Pros and cons of Jets' OC job Will anyone really want to coach the Jets offense? Believe it or not ... Maccagnan wouldn't comment much on what was reportedly said, as he didn't want to respond to "anonymous sources." Instead, he took the high road."I think we have a lot of good people in this organization," Maccagnan said. "My hope is we're all in this together. We're all focused on working towards a common goal." > http://www.nj.com/jets/index.ssf/2017/01/mike_maccagnan_doesnt_say_much_of_anything_about_j.html#incart_river_index Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetFanWithNOPSL2017 Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 Wasn't this same BS article posted Monday and/or Tuesday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelly Posted January 6, 2017 Author Share Posted January 6, 2017 ~ ~ Emptying the notebook For New York Jets fans clamoring for Christian Hackenberg and wondering why the rookie quarterback never got his chance this season, the answer was evident to others within the organization. One Jets coach said Hackenberg "couldn't hit the ocean." Another team official said Hackenberg has regressed throughout this season; he has struggled with his play and his confidence. But if there's an encouraging aspect, it's this: The Jets think Hackenberg will benefit from some time away and an offseason honing his talents. They still believe he can be salvaged and will benefit from being redshirted during his rookie season. But there are concerns with what the Jets saw this season. It's up to Hackenberg to improve. rest of above article : > http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/18412571/nfl-2016-chris-mortensen-adam-schefter-wild-card-notebook-tyrod-taylor-future-buffalo-bills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelly Posted January 9, 2017 Author Share Posted January 9, 2017 Even though the NFL draft still is 108 days away, it's not hard to predict the top storyline for the New York Jets : Will they select a quarterback with the sixth overall choice ? On Monday, another potential option went up on the board, as North Carolina's Mitch Trubisky announced his intention to enter the draft. This means the three highest-rated quarterback prospects have declared for the draft -- Trubisky, Notre Dame's DeShone Kizer and Clemson's Deshaun Watson, who plays Monday night in the College Football Playoff National Championship. This will be a fascinating conversation over the next three months. If the Jets were a typical, quarterback-needy team, the idea of drafting one in the first round would be a no-brainer. But this is a bit more complicated because of the Christian Hackenberg factor. If they choose a quarterback at six, it means they've given up on the slow-developing Hackenberg, a second-round pick who didn't see the field as a rookie.It would take a lot of onions to admit a mistake of that magnitude. On the other hand, if general manager Mike Maccagnan falls in love with one of the top three, can he afford to pass if he has private doubts about Hackenberg? That would fall under the "two-wrongs-don't-make-a-right" theory. "With the draft, our philosophy has been to build a board and, as the draft unfolds, focus on whatever the best player is at any position is in terms of the draft," Maccagnan said last week, commenting on whether he'd use a high pick on a quarterback. "I wouldn’t necessarily put anything on the table or take anything off the table. I think if anything, with that position or any position on the team, you keep all options open."The Jets have drafted a league-high 11 quarterbacks since 2000, from Chad Pennington to Hackenberg. They've done it four years in a row -- Geno Smith (second round, 2013), Tajh Boyd (sixth, 2014), Bryce Petty (fourth, 2015) and Hackenberg. Maccagnan is responsible for Petty and Hackenberg.Trubisky, Kizer and Watson aren't regarded as can't-miss prospects. In fact, ESPN draft analyst Todd McShay doesn't have any quarterbacks in his top 32 prospects. ESPN's Mel Kiper has Trubisky at No. 16 on his big board, but that's it. Here's a prediction: By the time the pro days are complete, every draft guru will have one, possibly two in his top 10. Because of supply and demand, quarterbacks get pushed up the board. Unfortunately for the Jets, the teams with the top three picks -- Browns, 49ers and Bears -- are desperate for franchise-caliber quarterbacks. On the flip side, an early quarterback rush probably would push another elite prospect down to the Jets at six. That's what happened in 2015 with Jameis Winston and Marcus Mariota, and they came away with Leonard Williams. Trubisky is generally regarded as a better prospect than Kizer and Watson. He posted impressive numbers for the Tar Heels in 2016 -- 30 touchdown passes, only six interceptions and a 68-percent completion rate. He's 6-foot-3, and he has all the physical tools, but he started only 13 games in college. If he's so good, why did he sit on the bench for two years? Some talent evaluators believe he's a project and will need at least a year of grooming. The Jets already have two projects. Can they afford another? > http://www.espn.com/blog/new-york-jets/post/_/id/66292/jets-qb-plot-thickens-as-uncs-mitch-trubisky-declares-for-draft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
On the flip side, an early quarterback rush probably would push another elite prospect down to the Jets at six. That's what happened in 2015 with Jameis Winston and Marcus Mariota, and they came away with Leonard Williams.
kelly Posted January 10, 2017 Author Share Posted January 10, 2017 Recap of Jets' offense: Too many picks and drops, not enough Bilal Powell Ryan Fitzpatrick threw 12 touchdowns to match his $12 million salary in 2016. He added 17 interceptions. Christian Petersen/Getty Images 7:00 AM ET Rich CiminiESPN Staff Writer Facebook Twitter Facebook Messenger Pinterest Email print comment Warning: This could be painful. Now that Woody Johnson, Mike Maccagnan and Todd Bowles have put their spin on the New York Jets' 5-11 disaster, it's time for me to weigh in with a season-ending report card. If you got these grades in high school, you'd be left back a year. Anyway, here goes. First, the offense. I'll get to the defense/special teams on Wednesday. Quarterback -- F The Jets finished 32nd in passer rating, 32nd in interceptions, 31st in completion percentage and 31st in Total QBR. Quite simply, this was one of the worst quarterbacking seasons in team history -- and this is a franchise that once started Browning Nagle for an entire year. What can you say? They bet on Ryan Fitzpatrick, hoping he could duplicate 2015, and it backfired. He got benched twice and finished with only 12 touchdown passes, which breaks down to $1 million per scoring pass. Perhaps feeling the pressure of a $12 million contract, Fitzpatrick forced too many passes, especially in the red zone. He threw a league-high six interceptions inside the 20; no other quarterback had more than three. Bryce Petty struggled in four starts, but it would be unfair to make a final evaluation. He essentially played with a makeshift supporting cast. Running back -- B+ Bilal Powell was outstanding over the final month, bringing the team's ranking up to 12th in total rushing. Powell ran for 411 yards over the last four games, the third-best total in the league. He finished with an average of 5.5 yards per carry (second among qualifying backs) and the best in Jets history, eclipsing Freeman McNeil's 5.2 in 1982. Naturally, there's a dark side to Powell's feel-good story: Why on earth did they wait until Matt Forte was injured before giving Powell a significant role? Instead of a time-share, the Jets ran Forte into the ground. He finished with a team-high 813 yards, but he was on fumes by November. Wide receiver -- C- Let's start with the positives. Quincy Enunwa (team-high 857 yards) made nice strides in his second full season, especially as a route runner. Robby Anderson came out of nowhere as a rookie and flashed potential as a vertical threat, if not as a complete wideout. Now, the negatives: The Jets led the league with 33 dropped passes, including seven by Brandon Marshall, according to ESPN Stats & Information. Let's be honest: Marshall, a dominant player in 2015, had a poor year. His catch percentage (59 receptions/125 targets) was only 47.2, which ranked 143rd out of 144 qualifying players. Scouts said he wasn't able to gain consistent separation, which hurt him between the 20s. In the red zone, he was a non-factor -- only seven catches. The Jets dearly missed Eric Decker, who provided an over-the-middle presence. Tight end -- F Once again, the Jets' tight ends had the fewest receptions of any team -- 18. Get this: The next closest team was the Broncos, who had 53 catches. One of the flaws in Chan Gailey's system is that it essentially eliminates the tight end from the passing attack. Presumably, the new coordinator will address that. It might help to have actual receiving threats. Austin Seferian-Jenkins was supposed to help, but he couldn't stay healthy and never got going. Offensive line -- C Continuity, once the hallmark of the Jets' line, was simply a rumor. The projected starting five -- Ryan Clady, James Carpenter, Nick Mangold, Brian Winters and Breno Giacomini -- didn't play a single snap together. Is that mind-boggling, or what? Because of injuries, eight different players played at least 20 percent of the snaps. Despite the upheaval, the line play wasn't terrible. The Jets allowed 35 sacks (16th), thanks, in part, to Fitzpatrick's quick release. The running game was decent, except in short-yardage situations. That was a problem. Guards James Carpenter and Brian Winters were the unit's most consistent players. We never got a chance to see what Clady could be; he played with a torn rotator cuff for a few weeks before landing on injured reserve. Some backups were thrown into tough spots, showing grit. Still, one of the most indelible images of the season was Petty getting sandwiched by Cameron Wake and Ndamukong Suh. > http://www.espn.com/blog/new-york-jets/post/_/id/66302/recap-of-jets-offense-too-many-picks-and-drops-not-enough-bilal-powell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelly Posted January 11, 2017 Author Share Posted January 11, 2017 " 5 things Jets must fix on offense for 2017 ".. > http://www.nj.com/jets/index.ssf/2017/01/xx_things_jets_must_fix_about_offense_for_2017.html#0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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