madmike1 Posted February 20, 2007 Author Share Posted February 20, 2007 "Looks" are a fantasy football invention. You are a knowledgeable bloke. Why are you quoting "looks?" Consider this scenario: Brady looks at Graham to fake out the safety and then throws to Brown for the 1st down. Does that go against Grahams "looks" stats on fantasy football sites all over the world? No. A "look" is a pass that is intended for that WR. And it's NOT a fantasy football invention. It's a real stat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmike1 Posted February 20, 2007 Author Share Posted February 20, 2007 Prison Break is on in less than 20 minutes. I love that friggen show lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharrow Posted February 20, 2007 Share Posted February 20, 2007 I have a feeling he's going to want more than he's worth (more than he's worth to the Jets at least). But, if we do sign him, we should do a lot more 2TE sets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharrow Posted February 20, 2007 Share Posted February 20, 2007 I love that friggen show lol. 2 minutes, I can't believe that Judge Judy is on right before it, I hate that bitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmike1 Posted February 20, 2007 Author Share Posted February 20, 2007 2 minutes, I can't believe that Judge Judy is on right before it, I hate that bitch.DVR FTW i refuse to watch commercials. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gainzo Posted February 20, 2007 Share Posted February 20, 2007 No, "looks" is just a term used to means the ball was thrown to the guy, it doesn't literally mean that brady just looked at him. Brady threw 516 passes (That doesn't include throwing it away) last season. Are you trying to tell me that 91 (or 17%) of those passes were intended for Daniel Graham? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmike1 Posted February 20, 2007 Author Share Posted February 20, 2007 Brady threw 516 passes (That doesn't include throwing it away) last season. Are you trying to tell me that 91 (or 17%) of those passes were intended for Daniel Graham? 91 were to watson dude. not graham. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gainzo Posted February 20, 2007 Share Posted February 20, 2007 91 were to watson dude. not graham. You got me on that. Either way my point is the "look" stat that is not recognized by anyone apart from fantasy football sites. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmike1 Posted February 20, 2007 Author Share Posted February 20, 2007 You got me on that. Either way my point is the "look" stat that is not recognized by anyone apart from fantasy football sites. It's so funny that you keep arguing with the stat and can't just accept that Baker is better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gainzo Posted February 20, 2007 Share Posted February 20, 2007 It's so funny that you keep arguing with the stat and can't just accept that Baker is better. My argument is the "looks" stat isn't an official stat. If NFL coaches had their hands on the "looks" stat then QB's wouldn't complete a pass. If you can show me the "looks" stat on NFL.com I will concede. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmike1 Posted February 20, 2007 Author Share Posted February 20, 2007 My argument is the "looks" stat isn't an official stat. If NFL coaches had their hands on the "looks" stat then QB's wouldn't complete a pass. If you can show me the "looks" stat on NFL.com I will concede. So you think the sites that DO keep that stat like football outsiders and yahoo are lying? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mugsy Posted February 20, 2007 Share Posted February 20, 2007 Graham would be a good signing so long as he is willing to be a back up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmike1 Posted February 20, 2007 Author Share Posted February 20, 2007 Graham would be a good signing so long as he is willing to be a back up.Why should the jets give alot of money to a backup TE? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gainzo Posted February 20, 2007 Share Posted February 20, 2007 So you think the sites that DO keep that stat like football outsiders and yahoo are lying? I never said they were lying. All I said was that they have NO idea where the QB is throwing the ball unless the QB actually throws the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmike1 Posted February 20, 2007 Author Share Posted February 20, 2007 I never said they were lying. All I said was that they have NO idea where the QB is throwing the ball unless the QB actually throws the ball. This stat ONLY counts thrown balls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mugsy Posted February 20, 2007 Share Posted February 20, 2007 Why should the jets give alot of money to a backup TE? EXACTLY! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gainzo Posted February 20, 2007 Share Posted February 20, 2007 This stat ONLY counts thrown balls. And where is this stat referenced on official NFL sites? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmike1 Posted February 20, 2007 Author Share Posted February 20, 2007 And where is this stat referenced on official NFL sites?Thats a lame ass excuse... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gainzo Posted February 20, 2007 Share Posted February 20, 2007 Thats a lame ass excuse... That's a legitimate question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharrow Posted February 20, 2007 Share Posted February 20, 2007 I wouldn't mind signing Graham for #2 TE money. And then using more 2TE sets and getting Baker the ball a little more. Time for Heroes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gainzo Posted February 20, 2007 Share Posted February 20, 2007 I wouldn't mind signing Graham for #2 TE money. And then using more 2TE sets and getting Baker the ball a little more. Time for Heroes. I agree with that. Is Graham worth #1 money? No. Will he make Baker's job easier? Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmike1 Posted February 20, 2007 Author Share Posted February 20, 2007 I agree with that. Is Graham worth #1 money? No. Will he make Baker's job easier? Yes. we can draft a TE that would make baker's job easier for ALOT less money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaltHarris27 Posted February 20, 2007 Share Posted February 20, 2007 Because we have a fine TE in Chris Baker. A FINE TE IN CHRIS BAKER? TRY HAVING HIM ON YOUR FANTASY TEAM, THEN CHECK BACK WITH ME Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmike1 Posted February 20, 2007 Author Share Posted February 20, 2007 A FINE TE IN CHRIS BAKER? TRY HAVING HIM ON YOUR FANTASY TEAM, THEN CHECK BACK WITH ME It's not his fault. He only gets as many chances as the offense gives him... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gainzo Posted February 20, 2007 Share Posted February 20, 2007 we can draft a TE that would make baker's job easier for ALOT less money. Like Kyle Brady or Anthony Becht? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmike1 Posted February 20, 2007 Author Share Posted February 20, 2007 Like Kyle Brady or Anthony Becht?How does it feel to have 2 first round TE's that Chris Baker is better then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gainzo Posted February 20, 2007 Share Posted February 20, 2007 How does it feel to have 2 first round TE's that Chris Baker is better then? It feels great that both Watson & Graham have out performed Chris Baker. Thanks for asking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmike1 Posted February 20, 2007 Author Share Posted February 20, 2007 It feels great that both Watson & Graham have out performed Chris Baker. Thanks for asking. they might have more yards but it's clear to any non bais person who just looks at the stats that baker makes more of his chances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharrow Posted February 20, 2007 Share Posted February 20, 2007 they might have more yards but it's clear to any non bais person who just looks at the stats that baker makes more of his chances. And if he had been on the Pats over the same span, that he would have outperformed both of them if given the same chances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gainzo Posted February 20, 2007 Share Posted February 20, 2007 they might have more yards but it's clear to any non bais person who just looks at the stats that baker makes more of his chances. Baker's stats are based on fantasy football "looks." Graham & Watson have proven it on the field. I'm not bias mate, you are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmike1 Posted February 20, 2007 Author Share Posted February 20, 2007 Baker's stats are based on fantasy football "looks." Graham & Watson have proven it on the field. I'm not bias mate, you are. If you don't think that people count how many passes were attempted to each receiver on the team you're insane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharrow Posted February 20, 2007 Share Posted February 20, 2007 Baker's stats are based on fantasy football "looks." Graham & Watson have proven it on the field. I don't know what that means. Baker's stats are based on stats? But, you're right, Graham and Watson have proven that they catch a fewer percentage of balls that are thrown to them than Baker. You're too hung up on the stat's name. Call it "chances to catch a ball" instead of "looks" if you want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gainzo Posted February 20, 2007 Share Posted February 20, 2007 If you don't think that people count how many passes were attempted to each receiver on the team you're insane. I still have yet to see any official proof from you or Sharrow that shows me how many passes Brady threw to Graham. If you find that, please let me know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmike1 Posted February 20, 2007 Author Share Posted February 20, 2007 I don't know what that means. Baker's stats are based on stats? But, you're right, Graham and Watson have proven that they catch a fewer percentage of balls that are thrown to them than Baker. You're too hung up on the stat's name. Call it "chances to catch a ball" instead of "looks" if you want. It doesn't matter what it's called man. If the result is Jet > Patsy he thinks it's BS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharrow Posted February 20, 2007 Share Posted February 20, 2007 I still have yet to see any official proof from you or Sharrow that shows me how many passes Brady threw to Graham. If you find that, please let me know. I've got that, give me a sec. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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