Blackout Posted September 26, 2008 Share Posted September 26, 2008 SEATTLE -- Things got so bad in the Seattle Mariners clubhouse during this discouraging season that one player reportedly threatened to "knock out" outfielder Ichiro Suzuki, the team's highest profile player. Suzuki A "clubhouse insider" quoted in Thursday's edition of The Seattle Times said, "I just can't believe the number of guys who really dislike him. It got to a point early on when I thought they were going to get together and go after him." The story went on to say that coaches and then-manager John McLaren, who was fired June 19, intervened when one player was overheard talking about wanting to "knock him out." A meeting was called to clear the air. Suzuki did not comment on the story, but pitcher J.J. Putz said he doesn't remember any such incident and said there was no meeting to talk about it. "It's very troubling if it was a player who said that," Putz said. "People have a lot of differences of opinion on a lot of things, but to say something like that in the paper and not fess up as to who it is, whoever said it is a coward. "You have something to say about somebody, step up and say it. Don't hide behind [a writer]. Anybody can sit around and talk behind somebody's back. I think it's ridiculous." Suzuki, who got off to a slow start, reached 3,000 hits combined between Japan and the U.S. on July 29. He achieved 200 hits Sept. 17 for the eighth straight season, matching a big league record. He was second in the league in hits (207) entering Thursday night and needs one more to become the quickest to 1,800 hits for any player who started his career after 1954. But rumors persist that some players believe he is selfish and more interested in his hit totals than the team's success. When the ship is sinking, the rats are the first ones off. They're the ones scavenging everything on the ship when it's going good, but when it's sinking they're the first ones off. -- Jim Riggleman "You're talking about a guy who is more prepared to play than anybody probably in this game," Putz said. "He goes out every single season and has 200 hits and scores 100 runs. All of a sudden people talk about knocking him out. That's the one thing that's usually sacred in there. You have something to say about somebody, you walk up to them and say something." Mariners manager Jim Riggleman also said he doesn't remember any such clubhouse turmoil centered on Suzuki, nor a meeting to deal with it. "When you lose a lot of games, you're going to have some griping and finger-pointing and things like that," said Riggleman, who moved from bench coach to manager after McLaren was fired. "But I can honestly tell you I don't remember anytime when I was coaching or managing here where it got the point where someone was going to go after someone." Riggleman said the real reason for the malcontent this season is simply the weariness of losing. The Mariners, with a $117 million payroll and big expectations, have lost 100 games for the fourth time in club history, and the first time since 1983. "We've lost so many games, so these type of things surface," Riggleman said. "When the ship is sinking, the rats are the first ones off. They're the ones scavenging everything on the ship when it's going good, but when it's sinking they're the first ones off." Riggleman added that when Suzuki is called selfish it takes away from some of the accomplishments. "It's hard to comprehend that someone is looking at 200-plus hits and it's not helping the ballclub," he said. "It's seventh-grade mentality. It's pettiness, jealousy, pointing fingers, deflecting responsibility, lack of accountability, lack of character. People takes shots at people in the paper. You get a feeling for who those people are and you try to eliminate those people." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mavrik Posted September 26, 2008 Share Posted September 26, 2008 Selfish? If by selfish they mean being the only guy on the team that is actually contributing and scoring runs, then yes, Ichiro is a selfish player. What a joke. I guess talent and success create envy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yisman Posted September 26, 2008 Share Posted September 26, 2008 what a stupid thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackout Posted September 26, 2008 Author Share Posted September 26, 2008 what a stupid thread. then why'd you take the time to post in it? man-crush eh?? i've got me a stalker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yisman Posted September 26, 2008 Share Posted September 26, 2008 1)Dumb title. 2)Incorrect title. 3)ALL IN CAPS title. 3)Stupid poster started the thread. 4)It steals information without crediting the source. 5)See #3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackout Posted September 26, 2008 Author Share Posted September 26, 2008 are you an english teacher now?? jbf? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yisman Posted September 26, 2008 Share Posted September 26, 2008 When I'm not gambling, yeah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Posted September 26, 2008 Share Posted September 26, 2008 Ichiro would look great in pinstripes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeebers Posted September 26, 2008 Share Posted September 26, 2008 Ichiro would look great in pinstripes. He would be the perfect CF they need. I am not sure if he wants to or plays center anymore though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anskyruben Posted September 26, 2008 Share Posted September 26, 2008 The Yankees will gladly take that "selfish" player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drago Posted September 26, 2008 Share Posted September 26, 2008 The Yankees will gladly take that "selfish" player. brewers too...oh wait, the yankees, bo sox and mets are the only teams that steal talent...carry on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arsis Posted September 26, 2008 Share Posted September 26, 2008 brewers too...oh wait, the yankees, bo sox and mets are the only teams that steal talent...carry on. sounds good to me, The Janks should get ichiro to play center. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anskyruben Posted September 26, 2008 Share Posted September 26, 2008 Steal ? This isn't communist China you jerkoff. People pick where they want to play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drago Posted September 27, 2008 Share Posted September 27, 2008 Steal ? This isn't communist China you jerkoff. People pick where they want to play. people? or just the yankees, red sox, mets and dodgers? Although, it is great watching the big market teams fold like a lawn chair when the pressure is on...pay-rod... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil Bit Special Posted September 27, 2008 Share Posted September 27, 2008 Steal ? This isn't communist China you jerkoff. People pick where they want to play. after 8 years.... before that they are told where they will play... so MLB is modified China. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anskyruben Posted September 27, 2008 Share Posted September 27, 2008 people? or just the yankees, red sox, mets and dodgers? Although, it is great watching the big market teams fold like a lawn chair when the pressure is on...pay-rod... In the last 10 years the Yankees have been very succesful compared to the beer team you follow. Enjoy CC, because he would be a fool to want to stay in that rathole of a place. Sunny SoCal and NYC look a lot more attractive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil Bit Special Posted September 27, 2008 Share Posted September 27, 2008 In the last 10 years the Yankees have been very succesful compared to the beer team you follow. Enjoy CC, because he would be a fool to want to stay in that rathole of a place. Sunny SoCal and NYC look a lot more attractive. They have a nice ballpark there in Milwaukee... plenty of hot chicks... lots of good food. Worst part is its in Wisconsin. Its going to take a boatload of money plus a lifetime supply of Beer and Brats to get him to stay in Milwaukee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drago Posted September 27, 2008 Share Posted September 27, 2008 In the last 10 years the Yankees have been very succesful compared to the beer team you follow. Enjoy CC, because he would be a fool to want to stay in that rathole of a place. Sunny SoCal and NYC look a lot more attractive. lets compare small market to big market teams...good call. Nice job missing the playoffs with the league's highest payroll. lol yankees are a joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arsis Posted September 27, 2008 Share Posted September 27, 2008 lets compare small market to big market teams...good call. Nice job missing the playoffs with the league's highest payroll. lol yankees are a joke. I love "small" market teams that have a city population of 2 million people and a surrounding area population of much more. Real small market there. More like cheap market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drago Posted September 27, 2008 Share Posted September 27, 2008 I love "small" market teams that have a city population of 2 million people and a surrounding area population of much more. Real small market there. More like cheap market. 2 million people to 10 million people is pretty close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anskyruben Posted September 27, 2008 Share Posted September 27, 2008 2 million people to 10 million people is pretty close. 10 mill divided by 2 teams. Then you factor in all the money your turd city puts in its pocket from luxury tax revenue that the Yanks, mets, Sox etc pay. What are you doing with it ? Feeding your women and making them fatter than they already are ? It's bad enough your team is in Wisconsin, you should give it up already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arsis Posted September 27, 2008 Share Posted September 27, 2008 2 million people to 10 million people is pretty close. What city has ten million. NYC certainly does not. 8 mill in NYC half of them met fans so two mill to 4 mill. You also are the only team in your whole state? no? I've driven to see games in Baltimore and Boston on whims. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drago Posted September 27, 2008 Share Posted September 27, 2008 10 mill divided by 2 teams. Then you factor in all the money your turd city puts in its pocket from luxury tax revenue that the Yanks, mets, Sox etc pay. What are you doing with it ? Feeding your women and making them fatter than they already are ? It's bad enough your team is in Wisconsin, you should give it up already. I've seen pictures of people's wives on here. Lets not call everyone out for not dating super models. you think that half of new york are yankee fans and half are mets? What about New Jersey? do they get to chear for a team? Delaware? Conneticut? Oh that's right, you can pull from them too. I have yet to meet five flat landers that chear for the brewers ahead of the cubs, sox, or Cardinals. You can spin it however you want, new york has payroll and you still suck. Even if the crew miss the playoffs, it won't bother me as long as i don't have to see pay-rod and mussina choke in another playoff series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anskyruben Posted September 28, 2008 Share Posted September 28, 2008 I've seen pictures of people's wives on here. Lets not call everyone out for not dating super models. you think that half of new york are yankee fans and half are mets? What about New Jersey? do they get to chear for a team? Delaware? Conneticut? Oh that's right, you can pull from them too. I have yet to meet five flat landers that chear for the brewers ahead of the cubs, sox, or Cardinals. You can spin it however you want, new york has payroll and you still suck. Even if the crew miss the playoffs, it won't bother me as long as i don't have to see pay-rod and mussina choke in another playoff series. You'll be spared this year, but I'm sure you swallowed your throw up 4 times since 96. That alone is priceless. I always love to see "small market" morons who display their inferiority complex. No one cares, or will ever care about that dirtbag city or team. The sooner you realize that the better you will be. I hope you look forward to CC's last start with your team, because he will never return to that armpit next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackout Posted September 28, 2008 Author Share Posted September 28, 2008 What city has ten million. NYC certainly does not. 8 mill in NYC half of them met fans so two mill to 4 mill. You also are the only team in your whole state? no? I've driven to see games in Baltimore and Boston on whims. NYC can easily have 10 mill ppl walking it's streets during a busy weekend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anskyruben Posted September 28, 2008 Share Posted September 28, 2008 Are you insane ? How long have you lived in NYC ? Shut up and don't open your cake hole unless you know what you are talking about you child. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rillo Posted September 29, 2008 Share Posted September 29, 2008 Ichiro would look great in pinstripes. Read my mind.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drago Posted September 29, 2008 Share Posted September 29, 2008 Are you insane ? How long have you lived in NYC ? Shut up and don't open your cake hole unless you know what you are talking about you child. You are so intelligent. Please, tell me more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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