madmikeisback Posted April 11, 2011 Share Posted April 11, 2011 What does that have to do with Youks? There is testing now the game should be at least moderately cleaned up, right? The MLB steroids testing is a complete joke. Everyone knows that. Except you apparently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted April 11, 2011 Share Posted April 11, 2011 The MLB steroids testing is a complete joke. Everyone knows that. Except you apparently. So then everyone is still doing it including the Yankees? Seems that goes against everything the MLB has been trying to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted April 11, 2011 Share Posted April 11, 2011 Remember when yankee fans were saying that Ortiz was on roids and Boston fans called them haters? Good times. Meh, whatever. Both are great hitters regardless. Steroids are a part of the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonEJet Posted April 11, 2011 Share Posted April 11, 2011 I do not understand why you defend Youk, or any other player They were all on it one time or another Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted April 11, 2011 Share Posted April 11, 2011 Crawford is slowly making me lose patience. He needs to get it together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted April 11, 2011 Share Posted April 11, 2011 I do not understand why you defend Youk, or any other player They were all on it one time or another Jeter and Rivera too then. Let's blanket them all with rash generalizations. That's a good idea. Some dude named hitler did that too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted April 11, 2011 Share Posted April 11, 2011 I do not understand why you defend Youk, or any other player They were all on it one time or another No one needs to be defended....as soon as people stop acting like they're surprised or offended that everyone did steroids the game will be better. Who gives a sh*t really? If I were that good I'd stick a needle in my a$$ too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted April 11, 2011 Share Posted April 11, 2011 Jeter and Rivera too then. Let's blanket them all with rash generalizations. That's a good idea. Some dude named hitler did that too. They probably did do them. They're still great players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted April 11, 2011 Share Posted April 11, 2011 They probably did do them. They're still great players. That would be very disheartening to fans. I honestly don't believe everyone did them. Some people have morals and ethics still right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted April 11, 2011 Share Posted April 11, 2011 That would be very disheartening to fans. I honestly don't believe everyone did them. Some people have morals and ethics still right? I dont equate steroids with morals and ethics. The entire NFL is on steroids...no one complains about that. Most fans dont give two sh*ts. Its mostly the older baby boomer fan who sensationalize these stupid records. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmikeisback Posted April 11, 2011 Share Posted April 11, 2011 Jeter and Rivera too then. Let's blanket them all with rash generalizations. That's a good idea. Some dude named hitler did that too. Neither Jeter or Rivera had unrealistic improvements later in their career. And neither of them have a huge head with eyes bulging out of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted April 11, 2011 Share Posted April 11, 2011 Neither Jeter or Rivera had unrealistic improvements later in their career. And neither of them have a huge head with eyes bulging out of it. Rivera is how old and still doing well? What does the way Youks look like have anything to do with anything. You're grasping for straws here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmikeisback Posted April 11, 2011 Share Posted April 11, 2011 Rivera is how old and still doing well? What does the way Youks look like have anything to do with anything. You're grasping for straws here. Rivera has ALWAYS been this good though. Since 1996. Guys who have unrealistic improvements in their careers are usually the guys who went to the Rx. Sure it's possible that he's on it. Much less likely than a guy who all of a sudden magically becomes a power hitter at 29 years old and who looks grotesque. Everyone saw how Bonds' head ballooned the same thing happened to Ortiz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted April 11, 2011 Share Posted April 11, 2011 Rivera has ALWAYS been this good though. Since 1996. Guys who have unrealistic improvements in their careers are usually the guys who went to the Rx. Sure it's possible that he's on it. Much less likely than a guy who all of a sudden magically becomes a power hitter at 29 years old and who looks grotesque. Everyone saw how Bonds' head ballooned. Pretty much....at least you acknowledge Mo could be taking something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted April 11, 2011 Share Posted April 11, 2011 Rivera has ALWAYS been this good though. Since 1996. Guys who have unrealistic improvements in their careers are usually the guys who went to the Rx. Sure it's possible that he's on it. Much less likely than a guy who all of a sudden magically becomes a power hitter at 29 years old and who looks grotesque. Everyone saw how Bonds' head ballooned. Youks has always looked that way. The way he looks is not a valid argument. And is it really that out of the realm of possibility for a guy coming into his prime to hit 13 more homers from one year to another while hitting in a hitter friednly park without the use of PEDs? It's not like he jumped from 16 to 50. He jumped from 16 to 29. Conspiracy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted April 11, 2011 Share Posted April 11, 2011 Youks has always looked that way. The way he looks is not a valid argument. And is it really that out of the realm of possibility for a guy coming into his prime to hit 13 more homers from one year to another while hitting in a hitter friednly park without the use of PEDs? It's not like he jumped from 16 to 50. He jumped from 16 to 29. Conspiracy! Youkilis is an awesome hitter regardless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmikeisback Posted April 11, 2011 Share Posted April 11, 2011 Youks has always looked that way. The way he looks is not a valid argument. And is it really that out of the realm of possibility for a guy coming into his prime to hit 13 more homers from one year to another while hitting in a hitter friednly park without the use of PEDs? It's not like he jumped from 16 to 50. He jumped from 16 to 29. Conspiracy! Show me another player who's SLG% went up 100+ when they were that old and sustained that performance. Besides Brady Anderson and Barry Bonds. EDIT: There is actually one other guy doing it right now. Jose Bautista. Does ANYONE in their right mind think he isn't juicing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted April 11, 2011 Share Posted April 11, 2011 CC looks pedestrian tonight. These lineups have made good pitchers always look pedestrian over the years. Long gone are the Pedro-Clemens duels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted April 11, 2011 Share Posted April 11, 2011 CC looks pedestrian tonight. These lineups have made good pitchers always look pedestrian over the years. Long gone are the Pedro-Clemens duels. Put CC on whatever they were taking then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted April 11, 2011 Share Posted April 11, 2011 Show me another player who's SLG% went up 100+ when they were that old and sustained that performance. Besides Brady Anderson and Barry Bonds. EDIT: There is actually one other guy doing it right now. Jose Bautista. Does ANYONE in their right mind think he isn't juicing? So you just proved yourself wrong? That's an interesting debate method. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted April 11, 2011 Share Posted April 11, 2011 Put CC on whatever they were taking then. Maybe he needs to start eating his Captain Crunch again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmikeisback Posted April 11, 2011 Share Posted April 11, 2011 So you just proved yourself wrong? That's an interesting debate method. Nah. Him and Youkilis are just both juicing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted April 11, 2011 Share Posted April 11, 2011 Maybe he needs to start eating his Captain Crunch again. Maybe. But I'll stick take him over any pitcher in the AL East. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmikeisback Posted April 11, 2011 Share Posted April 11, 2011 I wonder what Padres fans watching that game think about that shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted April 11, 2011 Share Posted April 11, 2011 Maybe. But I'll stick take him over any pitcher in the AL East. I'll take Lester. Younger and won't break down as quickly. CC and those innings are going to catch up with his unhealthy body and it won't be pretty. Unless he is going to be like David Wells. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmikeisback Posted April 11, 2011 Share Posted April 11, 2011 I'll take Lester. Younger and won't break down as quickly. CC and those innings are going to catch up with his unhealthy body and it won't be pretty. Unless he is going to be like David Wells. Shocking post. (Not really) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonEJet Posted April 11, 2011 Share Posted April 11, 2011 Jeter and Rivera too then. Let's blanket them all with rash generalizations. That's a good idea. Some dude named hitler did that too. Dude, I'm Jewish....you just crossed the line Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted April 11, 2011 Share Posted April 11, 2011 Nah. Him and Youkilis are just both juicing. The guy has never hit 30 homers but he's juicing? You sure it couldn't be that he got more doubles from hitting balls of the Green Monster and the alleyways in hitter friendly Fenway? You sure that it couldn't be that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted April 11, 2011 Share Posted April 11, 2011 I'll take Lester. Younger and won't break down as quickly. CC and those innings are going to catch up with his unhealthy body and it won't be pretty. Unless he is going to be like David Wells. Its 1-0. And, "unhealthy body" wtf does that mean? Its ******* baseball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted April 11, 2011 Share Posted April 11, 2011 Dude, I'm Jewish....you just crossed the line oh jesus christ shut up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted April 11, 2011 Share Posted April 11, 2011 Its 1-0. And, "unhealthy body" wtf does that mean? Its ******* baseball. His obesity is going to weigh down on him eventually. His body is bound to start breaking down under the weight. It's science. It should be more than 1-0 if the ump wasn't an idiot or the Red Sox could hit w/RISP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmikeisback Posted April 11, 2011 Share Posted April 11, 2011 The guy has never hit 30 homers but he's juicing? You sure it couldn't be that he got more doubles from hitting balls of the Green Monster and the alleyways in hitter friendly Fenway? You sure that it couldn't be that? He's played there his whole career and he had a borderline magical improvement in power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmikeisback Posted April 11, 2011 Share Posted April 11, 2011 His obesity is going to weigh down on him eventually. His body is bound to start breaking down under the weight. It's science. It should be more than 1-0 if the ump wasn't an idiot or the Red Sox could hit w/RISP. 1 He isn't Obese. 2 People have been saying that about him since 1999. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted April 11, 2011 Share Posted April 11, 2011 He's played there his whole career and he had a borderline magical improvement in power. He went from 16 to 29 homeruns in the prime of his career hitting behind David Ortiz and other power hitters. Are you 100% sure it's steroids. Can't be anything else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted April 11, 2011 Share Posted April 11, 2011 His obesity is going to weigh down on him eventually. His body is bound to start breaking down under the weight. It's science. It should be more than 1-0 if the ump wasn't an idiot or the Red Sox could hit w/RISP. "Eventually" Youkilis is fat too. I guess his unhealthy body will weigh down on him. Same with Ortiz. The guy plays every 5 days. His weight means absolutely nothing as long as his arm holds up. Clemens was effective into his 40's as a fat a$$. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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