Scott Dierking Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 Its not that we are "so caught up in what analysts say." The topic of this thread is "its about time Rex beats somebody he is not supposed to." Well how do we normally gauge that? We normally gauge that by what the so-called experts say. Everybody and their mother was picking the Colts to win last week. Based on that alone, Rex beat somebody he wasn't supposed to beat last week. The notion of the OP that the Jets have never exceeded expectations under Rex Ryan is completely ludicrous. Did anyone predict the Jets would be one game away from the SB in either 2009 or 2010? Hell, even our loss to the Texans two weeks ago exceeded expectations as most "experts" had us losing that game by 3 or 4 dozen points. I reject the premise of this thread. The Jets were favored by linesmakers in the game. Lines are designed to reflect "public" sentiment in order to create equal betting on both sides. So to say that "everyone" was picking to Colts last week is quite wrong. The line did not move in major swings last week, so there was a not a predominance of betting on one side or the other. That is the best guage of how "public" sentiment is on a game. Soem of you guys are like little school girls-"Oh, little Joey said that I don't kiss on the first date. I HATE him now" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted October 19, 2012 Author Share Posted October 19, 2012 Jets were home favorites last week. I'm talking about teams that are contenders. The Colts arent that. The mark of a good coach is beating teams he isnt supposed to beat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiFtheOracle Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 Marshall Faulk on NFL Network last Sunday: "The Jets literally have no playmakers on offense and the Colts just have too many playmakers for the Jets defense to handle." I sh*t you not. They all did. Everyone of them said the Jets dont have a single competitive advantage and the game was going to be ugly for the Jets. Why do you guys get so caught up in what analysts say about football? ' Why do you get so caught up in what Rex says to the media? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 Jets were home favorites last week. I'm talking about teams that are contenders. The Colts arent that. The mark of a good coach is beating teams he isnt supposed to beat. Matt, he's done that numerous times: 2009 week 1 on the road at the Texans with a rookie QB making his first start week 2 over the Pats week 16 over the Colts (whatever, a win is a win) week 17 over the Bengals Postseason wildcard round over the Bengals Postseason divisional round over the Chargers 2010 week 2 over the Pats week 15 over the Steelers in Pittsburgh Postseason wildcard over the Colts Postseason divisional over the Pats 2011 week 1 over the Cowboys 2012 week 1 over Buffalo (remember when Buffalo were the offseason champs, ready to take the next step and step one was gonna be pounding the Jets?) Yeah, you're right. Rex has never beaten someone he's not supposed to beat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted October 19, 2012 Author Share Posted October 19, 2012 Matt, he's done that numerous times: 2009 week 1 on the road at the Texans with a rookie QB making his first start week 2 over the Pats week 16 over the Colts (whatever, a win is a win) week 17 over the Bengals Postseason wildcard round over the Bengals Postseason divisional round over the Chargers 2010 week 2 over the Pats week 15 over the Steelers in Pittsburgh Postseason wildcard over the Colts Postseason divisional over the Pats 2011 week 1 over the Cowboys 2012 week 1 over Buffalo (remember when Buffalo were the offseason champs, ready to take the next step and step one was gonna be pounding the Jets?) Yeah, you're right. Rex has never beaten someone he's not supposed to beat. I've never said he hasnt done it, he just hasnt done it in over a year. The Jets were favored to beat Dallas. They were favorites against the Billls. Go up to NE and beat the Patriots this week. Then we'll start taking you seriously again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiFtheOracle Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 I've never said he hasnt done it, he just hasnt done it in over a year. The Jets were favored to beat Dallas. They were favorites against the Billls. Go up to NE and beat the Patriots this week. Then we'll start taking you seriously again. I never stopped taking him serious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 I never stopped taking him serious. Me neither. I do get the feeling, however, that some here never started. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE ILK Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 If you can't beat them at least bash them! It's cheats week, no warper, no gay Brady pics thread, nothing! Who is teh captain again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 If you can't beat him at least bash him! It's cheats week, no warper, no gay Brady pics thread, nothing! Who is teh captain again? The pig is ripe for the slaughter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE ILK Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 The pig is ripe for the slaughter? Who neutered you again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 Who neutered you again? You guys did. I was de-captained. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE ILK Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 You guys did. I was de-captained. You ruined bart scott with gay love poem! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason423 Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 I think it's a lot more frustrating to lose to teams you're supposed to beat. Thats been the biggest negative of the Ryan tenure outside of front office failures. In 2009 you had losses to the Dolphins (twice), Bills (at home), Jaguars, and Falcons. The Falcons were at least an ok team. The others were terrible. New England was only 10-6 that season and it cost the Jets a home game and maybe a bye week. Last year they probably lost at least 3 games where they were expected to win. Hes like the exact opposite of Herman Edwards who never beat a team that he was not supposed to beat but rarely lost to a team he was supposed to beat. I think part of Ryans issue is he cant adjust in game to a bad performance. They had a plan on offense coming in and that was that. If it doesnt work they just get flustered. If the plan is to have a Sanchez throwing day so be it. Doesnt matter if you are running for 300 yards. Let him throw. Last week Sanchez wasnt going to throw the ball if Greene averaged 1.5 YPC, at least until late when you ran out of time. Whatever is decided on Wednesday seems to prevail on Sunday no matter what. When things click, like they did last weekend or like they have in the playoffs, it looks brilliant and its been impressive in the playoffs where they have surprised people with different plans and just played very good football. But that style of management leads to losses against the Dolphins. Teams that he has had little respect for who come out and surprise the Jets. Rex has almost no answer for it during the game because it is nothing he anticipated during the week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 Why do you get so caught up in what Rex says to the media? Because it pertains to the team that I follow, and he comes off as a buffoon. Just me, but I am not a fan of having a buffoon being my talking head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiFtheOracle Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 Because it pertains to the team that I follow, and he comes off as a buffoon. Just me, but I am not a fan of having a buffoon being my talking head. And those analyst saying the Jets didnt have a single competitive advantage over the Colts doesnt pertain to the team you follow? I'd say those analyst opinions are about as important as what Rex says the media. Which is why I dont give a **** about either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 And those analyst saying the Jets didnt have a single competitive advantage over the Colts doesnt pertain to the team you follow? I'd say those analyst opinions are about as important as what Rex says the media. Which is why I dont give a **** about either. I don't listen to the analysts. For some reason, some of you guys hang on their every word like a school girl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiFtheOracle Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 I don't listen to the analysts. For some reason, some of you guys hang on their every word like a school girl. I don't listen to Rex's press conferences. For some reason, some of you guys hang on his every word like a school girl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 I don't listen to Rex's press conferences. For some reason, some of you guys hang on his every word like a school girl. He is the coach of my team. I will listen and read what he says about the team. If I don't get the "state of the team" from him, who else as a Jet official will I get it from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 i love the 'it's about time" threads. It's about time that a supermodel called me up for a date. Why, because I want it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet27 Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 Listen guys, Rex is a good defensive coordinator and a mediocre HC at the moment....as a head coach he is miles behind a guy like Belly. That's the fact. Can he eventually become a very good to great head coach? That remains to be seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiFtheOracle Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 He is the coach of my team. I will listen and read what he says about the team. If I don't get the "state of the team" from him, who else as a Jet official will I get it from? Analysts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 I never stopped taking him serious. Me neither. I do get the feeling, however, that some here never started. Let's get real here. During good times, Rex is a brash, eccentric genius, but during bad times he is a buffoonish blowhard. That's the nature of how he presents himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 Analysts. I like to know the parade route for the Super Bowl and the activities of that day 8 weeks prior to the event. So I listen to Rex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 Listen guys, Rex is a good defensive coordinator and a mediocre HC at the moment....as a head coach he is miles behind a guy like Belly. That's the fact. Give Sanchez to Belly and give Brady to Rex and see who is the better HC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet27 Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 Give Sanchez to Belly and give Brady to Rex and see who is the better HC. 1-2 more wins maybe.....but still no SB.....Belly is better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 You ruined bart scott with gay love poem! I do love me some Bart Scott. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 5-7 more wins definitely.....and 4-5 SB.....Belly is a cheater. Fixed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 1-2 more wins maybe.....but still no SB.....Belly is better. Belly wins 3 super bowls with Sanchez? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 Let's get real here. During good times, Rex is a brash, eccentric genius, but during bad times he is a buffoonish blowhard. That's the nature of how he presents himself. I, myself, am offered referred to as a "brash, eccentric genius," Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet27 Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 Fixed. I thought I was on the ignore list? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet27 Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 Belly wins 3 super bowls with Sanchez? no no 1-2 more wins during the reg season with Brady...still no SB..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 I thought I was on the ignore list? And you are....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 I, myself, am offered referred to as a "brash, eccentric genius," I think you accidentally quoted the wrong one of the things Rex's is know as. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet27 Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 And you are....... Figures....I was also on the ignore list with my ex-wife. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet27 Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 1-2 more wins maybe.....but still no SB.....Belly is better. I get neg rep because I spoke the truth?....nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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