Rich Thornburgh Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 16 hours ago, LAD_Brooklyn said: I thought McDonald was drafted to replace Carl Lawson. As already stated, they didn't know Huff was going to explode to this degree. Which is why you f’ing keep Huff. This is going to be 20x worse than Farrior Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Thornburgh Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 On 1/26/2024 at 11:45 PM, Beerfish said: People can;t figure this one out. ILBs that make some tackles, by far the easiest thing to find in fa or reclamation projects or mid draft. Pass rushers you have developed that are by far a bigger impact, tough to find or you have to use big resources. We can very easily replace Mosely and you want to get rid of him a year early instead of a year late anyway like what happened with Mo Lewis and Marvin Jones We are about to lose our best rusher since John Abraham and people are celebrating it 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 22 hours ago, Alka said: The sacks are great, but the pressure he exerts on the QB is actually more impressive than the sacks. His win rate against offensive linemen are the tops of the league, and the pressure forces the QB into mistakes, and helps get the defense off the field. As a specialist, in a league that wins on passing, he is among the best. He deserves to get paid as a top level edge rushing specialist. To me, he warrants 12-14M per year. Yes, not top tier defensive lineman money, but still, not bad. Remember, Quinnen got $24M per year, as he is worth it. I think Huff is worth 10M less, if we could get him for that. I’m not disparaging him as a player, but his pressure and sack rates are inflated a good amount by being in the sideline on rushing downs. He doesn’t want to play on this defense anymore because he won’t start here. It’s rare for a player to more or less exclude his current team months before free agency begins. As such it’ll take a lot more to get him to re-sign here compared to a new team. They can’t just match or one-up the highest offer he gets. He wants to start so they’ll have to compensate him extra to stay in a situation he really doesn’t want to be in. If they get him for $12-14MM/year it’ll only be because the next-highest bidder topped out around $9-10MM per, or if it happens never FA it’s because his agent got feelers/vibes from other teams that that’s all he’d get. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barton Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 15 minutes ago, Sperm Edwards said: I’m not disparaging him as a player, but his pressure and sack rates are inflated a good amount by being in the sideline on rushing downs. He doesn’t want to play on this defense anymore because he won’t start here. It’s rare for a player to more or less exclude his current team months before free agency begins. As such it’ll take a lot more to get him to re-sign here compared to a new team. They can’t just match or one-up the highest offer he gets. He wants to start so they’ll have to compensate him extra to stay in a situation he really doesn’t want to be in. If they get him for $12-14MM/year it’ll only be because the next-highest bidder topped out around $9-10MM per, or if it happens never FA it’s because his agent got feelers/vibes from other teams that that’s all he’d get. Sperm, isnt the pass rush rate only counted on pass plays (for every pass rusher)? They dont count the run plays for anyones pass rush rate, I dont think. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alworth Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 2 hours ago, Barton said: Sperm, isnt the pass rush rate only counted on pass plays (for every pass rusher)? They dont count the run plays for anyones pass rush rate, I dont think. This point about rates concerning pass rushing is key. I have little doubt that Huff's pressure rate is measured with only pass drop backs in the denominator and that Huff's rate is unsurpassed or by only one or two players at most. I also suspect his sack rate is top three or four at worst. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 3 hours ago, Barton said: Sperm, isnt the pass rush rate only counted on pass plays (for every pass rusher)? They dont count the run plays for anyones pass rush rate, I dont think. Depends who's counting. Earlier in the thread someone was comparing sacks per snap between Huff and others. Either way, his rate would surely drop anyway if he's not staying rested other than anticipated pass plays. I think 7-8 of his sacks came in the 2nd half (mostly the 4th quarter at that), whether a close game or not, so his being rested vs. OLmen who aren't is surely a factor. Looked at that way, it's entirely possible he'd have had fewer sacks - not just lower rates, but the total - if he was starting. There's a lot of justified criticism for Saleh & company, but there's every likelihood they've been using Huff correctly. If (when) he signs elsewhere, we'll see for sure. Will his numbers go up or not with a lot more time on the field? I'm curious myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetspenguin Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 He’s our edge rusher since Abraham. We can still fix the OL it ain’t that hard, JD and Woody just make it look hard because they can’t evaluate talent it ain't hard.Half the league has a bad line....it sure as hell ain't easy.Sent from the FOREVER AND EVER Suicide Watch desk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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