Maynardrules#13 Posted May 18, 2006 Share Posted May 18, 2006 The head coach was late for his scheduled press conference. Eric Mangini was too busy coaching. That would've never happen during the Herm Edwards regime, as the loquacious coach seemingly was more interested in legendary pressers than longer workouts, and practices were dubbed "Club Ed." Welcome to a wonderful new world for the Jets under Mangini and new general manager Mike Tannenbaum. Now, don't misinterpret. The Jets won't win eight games this year. But finally, there is a plan in place with savvy people making the key decisions. Tannenbaum and the Jets cleaned up during the draft. We documented that in our draft recap column. But what really needs to be hit home is the Jets new approach to picking ball players. In addition to skill and/or projection for success on the NFL level, the Jets put a major premium on leadership, smarts, and the interviews players conducted. Focusing on intangibles, in addition to talent, has paid major dividends for the Patriots, Ravens, Eagles, and Steelers. D'Brickashaw Ferguson is brilliant and has a great work ethic. Tannenbaum also liked that he played for former Jets coach Al Groh in college. Nick Mangold was a team leader, a true throw-back type of player, and excelled during interviews. Kellen Clemens wowed the Jets brass with his 2 ½-hour chalkboard session when he was grilled by the coaching staff. Anthony Schlegel enjoys boar hunting and is a scrappy linebacker. And Tannenbaum quipped that the folks in Columbia, Missouri might cry now that Brad Smith officially belongs to another team. Smith was a three-year team captain for the Tigers while shattering all sorts of school records at quarterback. And in talking to Tannenbaum this week, the first-year general manager made it clear that the rookies can start right away, as no Jet will be guaranteed playing time or a roster spot. Mangini will play the best players, regardless of contract or years of service. And that includes at quarterback. Chad Pennington is rehabbing his surgically repaired shoulder. He told reporters in New York last week he would be back for the season. Under no circumstance can the Jets count on him physically. And while Pennington was seemingly the favored son with the old regime, the new staff doesn't care what you did for the team two years ago, which is like a lifetime ago for the often-injured Pennington. Tannenbaum tells us he has been very impressed with Patrick Ramsey's commitment since the Jets traded for him. And he agreed with my philosophy on the quarterback that he needed a change of scenery. Ramsey is in a contract year and could be playing for his NFL future. That's a good thing for the Jets. The bet here is Ramsey wins the job and the very accurate Clemens is the starter in 2007. And we are also betting that the Jets are much smarter and disciplined team under Mangini. We are betting the Jets don't have clock management problems stemming from the sideline. We are betting that Tannebaum's free agency pickups that have Super Bowl experience, including Kimo von Oelhoffen, Andre Dyson, and Matt Chatham, make plays and most especially, lay the foundation for the future. The days of the entertaining pressers are gone. But the road back to respectability has officially begun. http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/5619616 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted May 18, 2006 Share Posted May 18, 2006 And while Pennington was seemingly the favored son with the old regime, the new staff doesn't care what you did for the team two years ago, which is like a lifetime ago for the often-injured Pennington. The bet here is Ramsey wins the job and the very accurate Clemens is the starter in 2007. Holy crap, thank God I still have DFat and Nuggie for material. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackout Posted May 18, 2006 Share Posted May 18, 2006 you cant help but feel sorry for Chadwick ahh, oh well, now we can win some games maybe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rajensen088 Posted May 18, 2006 Share Posted May 18, 2006 Smarter and disciplined? Maybe someone can explain why under Mangini the Patriots defensive unit was 28th in fewest penalties. Only the Giants, Vikings, Cowboys and Broncos committed more defensive penalties http://www.nfl.com/stats/teamsort/NFL/DEF-TOTAL/2005/regular?&_1:col_1=13 Brilliant game planning putting smart player in schemes to make plays? Maybe someone can explain why the Patriots defensive unit was second to the Houstan Texans in fewest defensive takeaways. http://www.nfl.com/stats/teamsort/NFL/DEF-TURNOVERS/2005/regular?&_3:col_1=3 Sounds like bad coaching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted May 19, 2006 Share Posted May 19, 2006 Smarter and disciplined? Maybe someone can explain why under Mangini the Patriots defensive unit was 28th in fewest penalties. Only the Giants, Vikings, Cowboys and Broncos committed more defensive penalties http://www.nfl.com/stats/teamsort/NFL/DEF-TOTAL/2005/regular?&_1:col_1=13 Brilliant game planning putting smart player in schemes to make plays? Maybe someone can explain why the Patriots defensive unit was second to the Houstan Texans in fewest defensive takeaways. http://www.nfl.com/stats/teamsort/NFL/DEF-TURNOVERS/2005/regular?&_3:col_1=3 Sounds like bad coaching. Your posts get dumber by the day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoachTsurfing Posted May 19, 2006 Share Posted May 19, 2006 Holy crap we have a pats fan that hates his own team forum page that he has to come here. Tx wants to be a Jet fan so bad. I hope that this is the start of something really good. I don't think we are going to win 8 games either. I hoping we just don't get embarassed and stay close and win games we are suppossed to win. Would I love for us to go to the superbowl and win, of course. However, I think winning 5-7 games is a good start for a rookie head coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted May 19, 2006 Share Posted May 19, 2006 However, I think winning 5-7 games is a good start for a rookie head coach. I couldn't agree with you more. Actually, I think the Jets will win between 6-8 games and build a solid foundation for 2007. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raffyD Posted May 19, 2006 Share Posted May 19, 2006 Your posts get dumber by the day. I would say by the hour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackout Posted May 19, 2006 Share Posted May 19, 2006 Smarter and disciplined? Maybe someone can explain why under Mangini the Patriots defensive unit was 28th in fewest penalties. Only the Giants, Vikings, Cowboys and Broncos committed more defensive penalties http://www.nfl.com/stats/teamsort/NFL/DEF-TOTAL/2005/regular?&_1:col_1=13 Brilliant game planning putting smart player in schemes to make plays? Maybe someone can explain why the Patriots defensive unit was second to the Houstan Texans in fewest defensive takeaways. http://www.nfl.com/stats/teamsort/NFL/DEF-TURNOVERS/2005/regular?&_3:col_1=3 Sounds like bad coaching. do us all a favor and prove suicide can be useful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raffyD Posted May 19, 2006 Share Posted May 19, 2006 do us all a favor and prove suicide can be useful I guess I have a sick mind because I thought that was hilarious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BwanaZulia Posted May 19, 2006 Share Posted May 19, 2006 I like some press-prick who can tell the future and tell us we won't win 8 games. **** you **** ball. BZ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rajensen088 Posted May 19, 2006 Share Posted May 19, 2006 Your posts get dumber by the day. Don't let facts hit you in the face. Nice Pee Wee Herman juvenile retort. You are a Pat fan, maybe you can explain why under Mangini, the Pats were undisciplined. 28th in fewest defensive penalties commited, with only the Giants, Broncos, Vikings and Cowboys commiting more defensive penalties. Explain it. Another Pee Wee Herman adolescent insult proves that Mangini can't put up a disciplined defense and you can't defend your boy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharrow Posted May 20, 2006 Share Posted May 20, 2006 Don't let facts hit you in the face. Nice Pee Wee Herman juvenile retort. You are a Pat fan, maybe you can explain why under Mangini, the Pats were undisciplined. 28th in fewest defensive penalties commited, with only the Giants, Broncos, Vikings and Cowboys commiting more defensive penalties. Explain it. Another Pee Wee Herman adolescent insult proves that Mangini can't put up a disciplined defense and you can't defend your boy.Tell me who started for them in their backfield and how many games each played and which were injured, and you'll have your answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted May 20, 2006 Share Posted May 20, 2006 Tell me who started for them in their backfield and how many games each played and which were injured, and you'll have your answer. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted May 21, 2006 Share Posted May 21, 2006 Don't let facts hit you in the face. Nice Pee Wee Herman juvenile retort. You are a Pat fan, maybe you can explain why under Mangini, the Pats were undisciplined. 28th in fewest defensive penalties commited, with only the Giants, Broncos, Vikings and Cowboys commiting more defensive penalties. Explain it. Another Pee Wee Herman adolescent insult proves that Mangini can't put up a disciplined defense and you can't defend your boy. Are you really that dumb or are you blind? The Pats defense last year lost more man-games than any other team in the NFL. The patch-work secondary that Mangini had to deal with probably had as much talent as some NCAA teams. Seymour and Bruschi missed more than 15 games combined. And BTW, yardage means crap. The Pats defense was ranked 17th in points allowed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterNorth09 Posted May 21, 2006 Share Posted May 21, 2006 Smarter and disciplined? Maybe someone can explain why under Mangini the Patriots defensive unit was 28th in fewest penalties. Only the Giants, Vikings, Cowboys and Broncos committed more defensive penalties http://www.nfl.com/stats/teamsort/NFL/DEF-TOTAL/2005/regular?&_1:col_1=13 Brilliant game planning putting smart player in schemes to make plays? Maybe someone can explain why the Patriots defensive unit was second to the Houstan Texans in fewest defensive takeaways. http://www.nfl.com/stats/teamsort/NFL/DEF-TURNOVERS/2005/regular?&_3:col_1=3 Sounds like bad coaching. It's clear Eric Mangini did an overrated job taking over for Romeo Crennel in NE. Yeah I know about the injuries but to finish 26th overall in total defense after playing 25% of your games against the Jets and Bills, two horrific offenses, has to tell you that he didn't do a great job. If you play 25% of your games against the Jets and Bills offenses your defense should finish top 10 - no excuses. The Jets had no offensive line and no playmakers and clowns like Bollinger playing QB. The Bills had a bad offensive line, JP Losman was a hideous QB and Kelly Holcomb wasn't much better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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