Do you think we see a bounce back season from Lazard?

[AFJF]

Dude was so bad last year that I have extended periods of time in which I forget he's even still on the team.

But he'll be back with his guy at QB and has proven he can be a productive NFL recevier.

If he turns things around as the 4th/5th option as a pass catcher it would be huge for this offense.

But do you think he does that, or will he stink up the joint once again?

[JETSY14]

Any good/great QB can make any WR look good.

 

Look at all the unheard WRs Brady won Superbowls with. 

[BreeceHallofFame]

He’s the 6th receiving option on the team, what does that even mean 

[The Troll]

He’s gonna bounce back into free agency as soon as the season ends. 

[Maynard13]

I think Lazard realized it was a lost season and had no desire to run around for 2 hours on a Sunday and get clocked by DB’s reaching back for errant passes. Business decisions. With Rodgers back, he will bounce back. They had a good chemistry together.

[AFJF]

15 minutes ago, BreeceHallofFame said:

He’s the 6th receiving option on the team, what does that even mean 

It means do you think he will perform better in 2024 than he did in 2023 when given the chance to catch the football?

[AFJF]

13 minutes ago, The Troll said:

He’s gonna bounce back into free agency as soon as the season ends. 

This is 100% true.

[Green Ghost]

6 hours ago, Maynard13 said:

I think Lazard realized it was a lost season and had no desire to run around for 2 hours on a Sunday and get clocked by DB’s reaching back for errant passes. Business decisions. With Rodgers back, he will bounce back. They had a good chemistry together.

This is my take also. He spent his entire career in a huddle with Aaron Rodgers playing on a title contender. After a few weeks of Zach Wilson, he totally checked out.

[TuscanyTile2]

4 hours ago, Maynard13 said:

I think Lazard realized it was a lost season and had no desire to run around for 2 hours on a Sunday and get clocked by DB’s reaching back for errant passes. Business decisions. With Rodgers back, he will bounce back. They had a good chemistry together.

And we want this loser (who checks out at the first sign of controversy) on our team for what reason again?  

I hope JD can somehow find a way to trade him and we never hear from this bum again.

[Bronx]

 

[TuscanyTile2]

7 minutes ago, Bronx said:

 

Zach's fault!!!  He has to throw a tighter spiral there (instead of that duck) and be a lot more accurate with the placement of that throw.

Understandable why Lazard checked out.

[FidelioJet]

He'll put up slightly better numbers for sure - it's not that he'll get better.  It's just going to be a slight upgrade in QB.

[rangerous]

I think lazards issues were between his ears.  He dropped too many passes that were right in his hands.

[TuscanyTile2]

 

We need to bring Lazard back at all costs.  The true definition of a Commander.

[slats]

58 minutes ago, TuscanyTile2 said:

And we want this loser (who checks out at the first sign of controversy) on our team for what reason again?  

I hope JD can somehow find a way to trade him and we never hear from this bum again.

No one’s trading for his $11M guaranteed this year and so Douglas would rather eat that money with him as a reserve than on another team. Bringing in Mike Williams and then drafting Corley knocks him down a couple pegs on the depth chart, and I don’t expect him to get a lot of opportunities as long as everyone is healthy. He’s probably better in the slot than outside, but he’s almost certainly backing up Williams outside while Gipson backs up the slot. He’ll have his best chance to show he deserves targets in games while Williams continues his recovery in camp. It’s gonna come down to opportunities for him, and he’s gonna have to earn them. 

[TuscanyTile2]

2 minutes ago, slats said:

No one’s trading for his $11M guaranteed this year and so Douglas would rather eat that money with him as a reserve than on another team. Bringing in Mike Williams and then drafting Corley knocks him down a couple pegs on the depth chart, and I don’t expect him to get a lot of opportunities as long as everyone is healthy. He’s probably better in the slot than outside, but he’s almost certainly backing up Williams outside while Gipson backs up the slot. He’ll have his best chance to show he deserves targets in games while Williams continues his recovery in camp. It’s gonna come down to opportunities for him, and he’s gonna have to earn them. 

It was such a nice thought I had.  Why did you have to go and do that?! 

[Bobby816]

I think he'll be better. But that's not saying much. Everyone will be better with Rodgers and OL there. But for Lazard his awful play now has him 2 spots lower on the depth chart. So opportunity for him isn't going to be easy. He's WR4 now. Ya he'll get starting reps in TC bc Williams likely wont be a full go by then. So I expect in TC there to be noise around him bouncing back. But that's only bc Williams wont be out there yet. And hopefully Williams can go Week 1. In all honestly I hope he's good to go for mid TC to get on the same page as AR and the offense as a whole. Breece got injured a few weeks after what Williams did and had a similar injury and was able to go about mid TC. So that's not unrealistic.

 

All in all having Lazard there in case Williams cant go is a good thing. But not question for me that he's WR4. So I don't think he does that much.

[JustInFudge]

I'm on record, I think he firmly plants himself as the #3 WR (probably plays Williams role till he's ready) and holds off Corley for a year.  I know everyone hates him and rightfully so, but this is Rodgers favorite all time teammate and he is the only WR who has ever caught a regular season pass from Rodgers and has spent his entire career in this system.  He's a 7 year veteran who is only 28 and was an ascending player and arguably the best WR in FA last year.  He can probably earn himself another decent sized pay day and I'm sure Rodgers is reminding him of that he invites a rookie to stay in his guest house.  But, still I'm sure Rodgers is giving him all the necessary attention to bounce back.  If this team is looking to be a power running team, it's hard to leave a 6'5 230 WR who is a very willing blocker off the field.  Corley is an exciting prospect but he's got a big learning curve not just the typical rookie stuff, but this is a dude used to running gimmicky routes and running dudes over the CUSA, the NFL is a different animal and Lazard has a significant advantage for all the reasons I've mentioned. 

I know its hard to remember but the dude spent the first half of the season running wide open w/ a QB who couldnt see the him or the field and when he did, couldnt get him the ball on time.  Sometimes I think people dont realize how awful Zach Wilson truly was at trying to be an NFL QB and the negative impact it has on the individuals who were dependent on him, not just the team as a whole. 

[The Crusher]

6 hours ago, AFJF said:

Dude was so bad last year that I have extended periods of time in which I forget he's even still on the team.

But he'll be back with his guy at QB and has proven he can be a productive NFL recevier.

If he turns things around as the 4th/5th option as a pass catcher it would be huge for this offense.

But do you think he does that, or will he stink up the joint once again?

Yes. Not great but not a healthy scratch by end of season either. 

[Rhg1084]

He’s slow and can’t catch. Bad combo for a WR 

[Green Ghost]

36 minutes ago, slats said:

No one’s trading for his $11M guaranteed this year and so Douglas would rather eat that money with him as a reserve than on another team. Bringing in Mike Williams and then drafting Corley knocks him down a couple pegs on the depth chart, and I don’t expect him to get a lot of opportunities as long as everyone is healthy. He’s probably better in the slot than outside, but he’s almost certainly backing up Williams outside while Gipson backs up the slot. He’ll have his best chance to show he deserves targets in games while Williams continues his recovery in camp. It’s gonna come down to opportunities for him, and he’s gonna have to earn them. 

Rodgers and Lazard are like peanut butter and jelly on a football field… they go well together. I’m as down on Lazard as anyone else, but I doubt very much Corley will be ahead of him on the depth chart. Gipson? No way.

[Jethead]

Williams' status is a real? Doubt the Jets will want to push him.

Unless JD make another move, Lazard opens at WR2.

[GangGreened]

 

6 minutes ago, Jethead said:

Williams' status is a real? Doubt the Jets will want to push him.

Unless JD make another move, Lazard opens at WR2.

Better chance he opens in the doghouse than WR2. He’d be gone if it was feasible.

[slats]

8 minutes ago, Green Ghost said:

Rodgers and Lazard are like peanut butter and jelly on a football field… they go well together. I’m as down on Lazard as anyone else, but I doubt very much Corley will be ahead of him on the depth chart. Gipson? No way.

Lazard was a 500 yards a year guy for Rodgers before Adams left, not his go to guy. More like his third, fourth, or fifth option. He’ll be further down the depth chart here this year, too. I have very little doubt that Corley will be the starting slot this year. Wilson is the clear #1, getting a Davante Adams share of the targets. Breece could easily be #2. Williams and Corley and Conklin will all eat before Lazard, who will primarily be Williams’ backup. 
 
I think he could have a bounce back year with Rodgers throwing to him, but his opportunities will be limited short of injuries. 

[BreeceHallofFame]

6 hours ago, AFJF said:

It means do you think he will perform better in 2024 than he did in 2023 when given the chance to catch the football?

Why would that happen if he is target #6 even if it was “prime” Lazard 

[ARodJetsFan]

Assuming that Lazard remains on the 53 man roster (and I believe he will) although that's far from a guarantee, I definitely think he'll be more productive with a healthy Aaron Rodgers under center.

How much more productive he'll be, remains to be seen.

Lazard & Rodgers have an established chemistry & history together & Lazard is still only 28 years old, (doesn't turn 29 until December) so, it's not like he's past his prime.

He's also 6'05 & 227 lbs which should (in theory) make him a hell of a red zone target.

In 2019 he had 35 catches for 477 yds & 3 TDs.

In 2020 he had 33 catches for 451 yds & 3 TDs.

in 2021 he had 40 catches for 513 yds & 8 TDs.

2022 was statistically his best season, where he had 60 catches for 788 yds & 6 TDs.

Last season his production obviously took a hit, where he only had 23 catches for 311 yds & 1 TD.

Part of that was not having Rodgers feeding him the ball and of course, many will say he quit on the team and so on.

For his career - including last season, he's averaged 13.3 yds per catch.

I think it's realistic for Lazard to regain his 2019 - 2021 production levels.

Time will tell, but it would be nice to see the Jets get something out of him, for what they paid him in free agency.

[Warfish]

Lazard was the worst kind of quit-on-his-team, low-effort, didn't care bum in 2023.

I strenuously hope he's not on our roster by opening day.

[Dcat]

8 hours ago, AFJF said:

Dude was so bad last year that I have extended periods of time in which I forget he's even still on the team.

But he'll be back with his guy at QB and has proven he can be a productive NFL recevier.

If he turns things around as the 4th/5th option as a pass catcher it would be huge for this offense.

But do you think he does that, or will he stink up the joint once again?

Put it this way....   how could he be any worse?  

At least with Rodgers under center, Lazard knows if he slouches again, he will get the wrath of Aaron. 

 

[Green Ghost]

41 minutes ago, slats said:

Lazard was a 500 yards a year guy for Rodgers before Adams left, not his go to guy. More like his third, fourth, or fifth option. He’ll be further down the depth chart here this year, too. I have very little doubt that Corley will be the starting slot this year. Wilson is the clear #1, getting a Davante Adams share of the targets. Breece could easily be #2. Williams and Corley and Conklin will all eat before Lazard, who will primarily be Williams’ backup. 
 
I think he could have a bounce back year with Rodgers throwing to him, but his opportunities will be limited short of injuries. 

No argument about Wilson and Hall, those two are no brainers. I do think you’re vastly overrating what Corley’s impact and role will be this year however. IMO he’s going to be behind both Lazard and Williams (when healthy). Probably your guy Gipson and maybe Brownlee also.
He’s a rookie from a mid major school. I don’t see him stepping into a big role on a win now team.

That doesn’t mean I want to see Lazard get time over him, or that Lazard will put up big numbers this year, it’s just what’s going to happen. This CS plays their veterans, and Lazard, like him or not has a history with, and meshes well with Rodgers. Let’s be real… the OC and HC know that, and the vets will be out there with Aaron.

[Barry McCockinner]

1 hour ago, TuscanyTile2 said:

 

We need to bring Lazard back at all costs.  The true definition of a Commander.

cock commander

[#27TheDominator]

8 hours ago, AFJF said:

Dude was so bad last year that I have extended periods of time in which I forget he's even still on the team.

^ One of the lucky ones.

[heymangold]

7 hours ago, BreeceHallofFame said:

He’s the 6th receiving option on the team, what does that even mean 

he's still 2nd until williams proves his health and corley proves he can do it in the NFL

[SomebodytoAnybody47]

I'm pretty sure Rodgers will kick his soccer ball into the upper decks if he's still f'n around while he's on the field. 

He won't bounce back to what we thought we were getting mainly because they'll be better options in front of him but he won't be completely useless like last year

[Claymation]

8 hours ago, AFJF said:

Dude was so bad last year that I have extended periods of time in which I forget he's even still on the team.

But he'll be back with his guy at QB and has proven he can be a productive NFL recevier.

If he turns things around as the 4th/5th option as a pass catcher it would be huge for this offense.

But do you think he does that, or will he stink up the joint once again?

I have a feeling he will get more playing time than Corley.

Gipson, Charles and Brownlee will be lucky to be on the team.

[ARodJetsFan]

3 minutes ago, Claymation said:

I have a feeling he will get more playing time than Corley.

Gipson, Charles and Brownlee will be lucky to be on the team.

I see Brownlee as squarely on the roster bubble right now.

Gipson & Charles will probably stick, because of their special teams value.

But hey, who knows....way too early to say anything for certain.