K2C Posted June 12, 2007 Share Posted June 12, 2007 ESPN has the Jets 4th on offense, and 2nd on defense in the AFC East. They did it as a whole..let's break it down by position as well. Where would you rank the teams in the AFC East on both sides of the ball? QB? RB? WR core? TE? O-Line unit? D-Line unit? LB core? CB's? S? K? P? KR? PR? HC? OC? DC? STC? QB: Pats Fins Jets Bills RB: Jets Pats (If Maroney Healthy) Fins Bills TE: Pats Jets Bills/Fins? O-Line: Jets Bills Pats Fins D-Line: Fins Jets Pats Bills LB: Fins Pats Jets Bills CB: Toss up..Asante is out, Revis is a Rook, The fins secondary sucks and so does the Bills. S: Jets Bills Pats/Fins K: Toss up again..Nugent is rising, Mare is gone, Gostkowski did decent, Bills kicker is who? P: I don't follow the other punters..help me out here. HC: Pats Jets Bills Fins OC: Jets Fins Bills Pats DC: ? ST: Westhoff The Rest... AFC EAST OFFENSE: Pats (If new pieces can gel) Fins Jets Bills AFC EAST DEFENSE: Pats Jets Fins/Bills A lot of these are toss ups. Where do you all see your rankings? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed3 Posted June 12, 2007 Share Posted June 12, 2007 You have the NE D-Line ranked 3rd in the division? I was thinking it was the best in the league. I'm sure the Jets and Fins are flattered though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmike1 Posted June 12, 2007 Share Posted June 12, 2007 QB? NE NYJ BUF MIA RB? NYJ BUF NE MIA WR core? BUF NE NYJ MIA TE? NYJ NE BUF MIA O-Line unit? NE BUF NYJ MIA D-Line unit? NE MIA BUF NYJ LB core? NE NYJ BUF MIA CB's? NYJ NE (I'm assuming Samuel sits) BUF MIA S? NYJ NE BUF MIA K? NYJ NE MIA BUF P? NYJ BUF NE MIA KR? NYJ BUF NE MIA PR? Too Early. We don't know who these guy will be yet. HC? NE NYJ BUF MIA OC? NYJ NE MIA BUF DC? NE NYJ BUF MIA STC? NYJ MIA NE BUF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K2C Posted June 12, 2007 Author Share Posted June 12, 2007 You have the NE D-Line ranked 3rd in the division? I was thinking it was the best in the league. I'm sure the Jets and Fins are flattered though. NE yielded 3.9 yds per carry last year, Miami 3.5. It all starts with the push up front. Not to mention, Jason Taylor being in the Top 3 in sacks. A lot of these presumptions are just that..guesses. Who knows what the new additions will do this coming year? The Jets did focus heavily on providing the front 7 with plenty of depth and rotation players. Best D-line in the league? Panthers. The Falcons are pretty good as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmike1 Posted June 12, 2007 Share Posted June 12, 2007 NE yielded 3.9 yds per carry last year, Miami 3.5. It all starts with the push up front. Not to mention, Jason Taylor being in the Top 3 in sacks. A lot of these presumptions are just that..guesses. Who knows what the new additions will do this coming year? The Jets did focus heavily on providing the front 7 with plenty of depth and rotation players. Best D-line in the league? Panthers. The Falcons are pretty good as well. NE has a much better D Line than any other team in the division and it's not close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K2C Posted June 12, 2007 Author Share Posted June 12, 2007 NE has a much better D Line than any other team in the division and it's not close. It's all a matter of opinion..but stats don't lie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmike1 Posted June 12, 2007 Share Posted June 12, 2007 It's all a matter of opinion..but stats don't lie. You're taking one stat out of context. A lot of the things a good 3-4 line does won't show up in the stat sheet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K2C Posted June 12, 2007 Author Share Posted June 12, 2007 You're taking one stat out of context. A lot of the things a good 3-4 line does won't show up in the stat sheet. The Dolphins run a hybrid 3-4...don't they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmike1 Posted June 12, 2007 Share Posted June 12, 2007 The Dolphins run a hybrid 3-4...don't they? Yeah. But their dline is getting old and older. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K2C Posted June 12, 2007 Author Share Posted June 12, 2007 Yeah. But their dline is getting old and older. Indeed...their whole front 7 is really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmike1 Posted June 12, 2007 Share Posted June 12, 2007 Indeed...their whole front 7 is really. You gotta take the pats Dline over theirs. Seymour is their oldest lineman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K2C Posted June 12, 2007 Author Share Posted June 12, 2007 You gotta take the pats Dline over theirs. Seymour is their oldest lineman. Hey I never said I was right..that's why I wanted others to contribute. I think Wilfork is what makes that line tick.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barton Posted June 12, 2007 Share Posted June 12, 2007 I'd love to know how exactly the dolphins offense is better than ours. And I dont even think we'll have a top 12 offense. I'm just sayin'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmike1 Posted June 12, 2007 Share Posted June 12, 2007 I'd love to know how exactly the dolphins offense is better than ours. And I dont even think we'll have a top 12 offense. I'm just sayin'. It's ESPN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasonJet Posted June 12, 2007 Share Posted June 12, 2007 I'd love to know how exactly the dolphins offense is better than ours. And I dont even think we'll have a top 12 offense. I'm just sayin'. That's a good point. Neither team has top-notch QB's and the Jets have superior RB's when you combine Jones and Washington. The Jets also have better WR's with Coles, Cotchery, Brad Smith, and even J-Mac while the Phins have the overrated Chambers, Marty Booker, and Ted Bust Ginn. The Jets OL does not look like it will be great but the Phins don't look to promising in that area either. And when you include our coaching it doesn't seem like much of a contest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4HCrew Posted June 12, 2007 Share Posted June 12, 2007 the ranking was based on explosive plays...the point was that Green can get the ball down the field to Chambers and Ginn and Chad is not capable throwing down field Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raffyD Posted June 12, 2007 Share Posted June 12, 2007 the ranking was based on explosive plays...the point was that Green can get the ball down the field to Chambers and Ginn and Chad is not capable throwing down field If that was a shot at Barton's hate fest towards Chad then POTW nom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
124 Posted June 12, 2007 Share Posted June 12, 2007 QB: 1. New England 2. Miami 3. Buffalo 4. Jets RB: 1. Jets 2. New England 3. Buffalo 4. Miami The combination of Jones & Washington beats out Maroney & Morris. WR: 1. New England 2. Jets 3. Miami 4. Buffalo Yes, Buffalo has Lee Evans but no real #2. Miami has Chris Chambers & Marty Booker. TE: 1. New England 2. Jets 3. Buffalo 4. Miami O-Line: 1. New England 2. Jets 3. Buffalo 4. Miami D-Line: 1. New England 2. Buffalo 3. Jets 4. Miami These suggest that Taylor is playing the 34 OLB role in Miami's defense, not a 43 DE, or else Miami would be 3. LB: 1. New England 2. Miami 3. Jets 4. Buffalo Look at DLine note. CB: 1. Jets 2. New England 3. Buffalo 4. Miami New England's ranking includes the subraction of Samuel S: 1. New England 2. Jets 3. Buffalo 4. Miami K: 1. Jets 2. New England 3. Buffalo 4. Miami This division is STACKED at kicker P: 1. Buffalo 2. Jets 3. New England 4. Miami HC: 1. New England 2. Jets 3. Buffalo 4. Miami OC: 1. Jets 2. New England 3. Miami 4. Buffalo DC: 1. New England 2. Jets 3. Miami 4. Buffalo ST: 1. Jets 2. New England 3. Buffalo 4. Miami AFC EAST OFFENSE: 1. New England 2. Jets 3. Buffalo 4. Miami AFC EAST DEFENSE: 1. New England 2. Jets 3. Miami 4. Buffalo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
124 Posted June 12, 2007 Share Posted June 12, 2007 I also made these rankings based on the STARTERS, not the overall depth at the position. If that was the ranking you wanted, post it and I'll have a much different look at most positions. For instance, the Jets would jump to #2 at QB if you're including Clemens because, well, Buffalo and Miami's back-up QB's speak for themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nj meadowlands Posted June 12, 2007 Share Posted June 12, 2007 Good rankings 124, except I'm taking Pennington over that yuppie Losman in a NY minute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clemens&theJets Posted June 12, 2007 Share Posted June 12, 2007 QB Pats Jets RB Jets pats WR Jets pats TE Pats jets O-Line pats Jets D-Line Pats Jets LB Jets/Pats tie CB Jets SS Jets K Jets P Bills HC Jets OC Jets DC Pats ST Jets AFC Offense Pats Jets Bills Miami AFC Defense Pats/Jets almost a tie miami bills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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