bitonti Posted October 20, 2007 Share Posted October 20, 2007 people talk about the 4th and 1 last week, but that's a play call i agree with - generally chad and coles can make that fade work. the real problem was 3rd and 1 QB sneak. let me just say Thomas Jones is not a short yardage back. Those who remember his Chicago days will recall that is exactly the situation where he dances too much and loses five. what the Jets lack, and have lacked for about the last 20 years, is a true short yardage package... like the Raiders had with Zack Crockett and like the Pats have today- Bring the tackle eligible on the field, put the linebackers in the backfield and give the ball to a guy who everyone knows is going to get it - but he still takes the tough yard. Right now the Jets lack a guy who can get the tough yard. as last week showed, QB sneaks will only work for so long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaspegs Posted October 20, 2007 Share Posted October 20, 2007 bring mangold to pave the road for tj or someone big. Pizza Boys comin from Belicheck and Belicheck always uses his LBs in short yardage plays. Why cant we? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damaged89 Posted October 20, 2007 Share Posted October 20, 2007 Danny Ware maybe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetCane Posted October 20, 2007 Share Posted October 20, 2007 Barnes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil Bit Special Posted October 20, 2007 Share Posted October 20, 2007 Vilma Guy sucks on Defense, might as well try him on offense. Season's over anyway....gotta try some different things... gotta see what players can do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted October 20, 2007 Share Posted October 20, 2007 The problem is the offensive line can not move that line of scrimmagwe more than anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil Bit Special Posted October 20, 2007 Share Posted October 20, 2007 The problem is the offensive line can not move that line of scrimmage more than anything. How dare you blame any problems on offense on anyone but Chad Pennington! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mangenious420 Posted October 20, 2007 Share Posted October 20, 2007 bring mangold to pave the road for tj or someone big. Pizza Boys comin from Belicheck and Belicheck always uses his LBs in short yardage plays. Why cant we? You guys couldn't come up with anything more clever? Pizza Boy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil Bit Special Posted October 20, 2007 Share Posted October 20, 2007 Barnes thanks for the neg rep...... wanna explain why?? Vilma has sucked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetCane Posted October 20, 2007 Share Posted October 20, 2007 thanks for the neg rep...... wanna explain why?? Vilma has sucked. So have you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil Bit Special Posted October 20, 2007 Share Posted October 20, 2007 So have you wow. what an intelligent post. guess max was wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted October 20, 2007 Author Share Posted October 20, 2007 in fairness have to add Cedric Houston would have gotten those yards, so it's not like Tangini is ignoring the problem. but it has to be addressed again. Houston's short yardage package was a key loss that fell under radar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted October 20, 2007 Share Posted October 20, 2007 On short yardage we should throw. On 3rd down they had 11, yes 11 at the LOS,with nearly all of them blitzing. The Sneak was a hopeless call, any kind of PA would have had a guy wide open. Chris baker anyone??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damaged89 Posted October 20, 2007 Share Posted October 20, 2007 On short yardage we should throw. On 3rd down they had 11, yes 11 at the LOS,with nearly all of them blitzing. The Sneak was a hopeless call, any kind of PA would have had a guy wide open. Chris baker anyone??? One wonders why the Rhodes Scholar of a quarterback didn't audible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mangenious420 Posted October 20, 2007 Share Posted October 20, 2007 On short yardage we should throw. On 3rd down they had 11, yes 11 at the LOS,with nearly all of them blitzing. The Sneak was a hopeless call, any kind of PA would have had a guy wide open. Chris baker anyone??? Threw on 3rd. Now what if that pass was incomplete? Are we throwing again on 4th down? Now imagine if we did that and both passes were incomplete, Mangini would have gotten killed for it. 5x more then he is for this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted October 20, 2007 Share Posted October 20, 2007 Threw on 3rd. Now what if that pass was incomplete? Are we throwing again on 4th down? Now imagine if we did that and both passes were incomplete, Mangini would have gotten killed for it. 5x more then he is for this one. Id honestly take the shot on 3rd and run Jones on 4th. I guarantee the Eagles wouldnt be as aggressive on 4th down as they would be on 3rd. Also it wouldnt have been incomplete, just watch the eagles setup and playcall, any TE who can run 5 yards straight has themselves a TD. I agree that Penny should have audibled, theres no excuse for sneaking into that, the result was inevitable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gangreenman Posted October 20, 2007 Share Posted October 20, 2007 The problem is we only have one TD play in our offensive playbook, and it didnt work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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