NIGHT STALKER Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 Yankees | AFL scout says Hughes' command and motion 'stink' Mon, 27 Oct 2008 00:13:41 -0700 Joel Sherman, of The New York Post, reports an anonymous Arizona Fall League scout who has seen numerous starts by New York Yankees SP Phil Hughes believes something is not quite right. "I think the problem is that his elbow is too low so he is not commanding because he is not throwing downhill. His command stinks because his motion stinks. For example, his curve has good rotation and break, but I think because of that delivery it breaks early and so hitters pick it up," the scout said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borgoguy Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 More good news for the coming season. If this is true, both Hughes and Kennedy look like busts. Dammit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIGHT STALKER Posted October 28, 2008 Author Share Posted October 28, 2008 More good news for the coming season. If this is true, both Hughes and Kennedy look like busts. Dammit. You know the old saying..."Prospects are suspect"...I think we folded our hand on those two guys during the Santana sweeps last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 I read that piece more as being a scout that wants to tweak Hughes' motion than thinks he's a bust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIGHT STALKER Posted October 28, 2008 Author Share Posted October 28, 2008 I read that piece more as being a scout that wants to tweak Hughes' motion than thinks he's a bust. You have to admit though, for a guy that was targeted as a #1 starter he's been more than a disappointment. Not to mention he seems injury prone on top of it all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 You have to admit though, for a guy that was targeted as a #1 starter he's been more than a disappointment. Not to mention he seems injury prone on top of it all. Certainly, but I'm still glad they didn't make that deal. He has still can be a solid starter AND they would have had to pay Santana all that money. I love Santana, but I'd rather pay the money to somebody else and keep Hughes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIGHT STALKER Posted October 28, 2008 Author Share Posted October 28, 2008 Certainly, but I'm still glad they didn't make that deal. He has still can be a solid starter AND they would have had to pay Santana all that money. I love Santana, but I'd rather pay the money to somebody else and keep Hughes. I understand your point, but do you think the Yanks make the playoffs with Santana this past season? Don't be surprised if Hughes is part of deal this offseason for someone with less talent than Santana. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 I read that piece more as being a scout that wants to tweak Hughes' motion than thinks he's a bust. That's how I read it, too. Aren't these fall and winter leagues all about development? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barton Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 Why the hell did the Yankees change his mechanics? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 I understand your point, but do you think the Yanks make the playoffs with Santana this past season? Don't be surprised if Hughes is part of deal this offseason for someone with less talent than Santana. Well, maybe but there are too many variables. Would they have made the playoffs if Wang didn't get hurt? If the Yanks were even close at the deadline they could/would have been making serious moves. I want the team to be at least a little fiscally responsible and trading a top (or mid) tier pitching prospect or two with others for the rights to sign Santana is a bit much. There weren't that many teams bidding against us because only about four or five could even afford the guy. Throw the money at Sabathia now. I would almost never get rid of young pitching. That's what ****ed them in the old days. Jose Rijos, Doug Drabek, Bob Tewksbury, Bob Wickman. These are guys that I loved and would have never moved. Sure sometimes a guy flops, like Sammie Militello, but you've got to hold 'em to find out. Were the deals worth it? I don't know, I can't even remember what they got for most of those guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smizzy Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 Good old Yankees. Vlad? Beltran? Santana? Nahh...we are just find with are juiced up Bats and sh*triffic pitching staff. Now let's go throw another 100M at Jaret Wright & Carl Pavano... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GimmeShelter Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 No way Hughes will be a bust IMO. Possibly not the number one he was projected to be, but not a bust. I would have traded him for Johan but still, he looked straightened out his last outing or two at the end of the season. Winter ball should not be used to change projections on kid pitchers. The biggest problem I think is that since the injury during his no-hit bid, he has never had a period of uninjured starts in which to stay locked in. Pelfrey should be the perfect local example that patience is required. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uart Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 Why the hell did the Yankees change his mechanics? Coaches are idiots? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 Why the hell did the Yankees change his mechanics? Coaches are idiots? Where did anybody say the Yankees changed his mechanics? The article iindicated that the scout didn't like his mechanics and that he should probably raise his elbow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIGHT STALKER Posted October 28, 2008 Author Share Posted October 28, 2008 Where did anybody say the Yankees changed his mechanics? The article iindicated that the scout didn't like his mechanics and that he should probably raise his elbow. I think they said this past season they had worked on changing his mechanics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borgoguy Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 I think they said this past season they had worked on changing his mechanics. To correct them, or did they cause what the scout has seen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barton Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 They d##ked with his mechanics sometime after his hamstring injury during the no-hitter last season. Its obvious if you get a side-by-side from how he used to throw and how he throws now. Just not the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackout Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 lots can change between now and April Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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