BroadwayJ667 Posted January 24, 2009 Share Posted January 24, 2009 well this is different than Mangini who lived for fitting square pegs into round holes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNJet Posted January 24, 2009 Share Posted January 24, 2009 Hello the Junkin pick was devasstating to Browns who also gave up a LB for him!! @ssofmuff,i didnt know you were a tide fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PETROCK Posted January 24, 2009 Share Posted January 24, 2009 I hope they can get this guy to play. For a 1st round pick to have 1 solo tackle all season is pathetic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoneStarLady Posted January 24, 2009 Share Posted January 24, 2009 @ssofmuff,i didnt know you were a tide fan. Yeah, he's the epitome of 'Bama fans! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted January 24, 2009 Share Posted January 24, 2009 Yeah, he's the epitome of 'Bama fans! is that good or bad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted January 24, 2009 Share Posted January 24, 2009 @ssofmuff,i didnt know you were a tide fan. where the F have u been?????????? oh that's right your Vols sucked pondwater Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lancemehl Posted January 24, 2009 Share Posted January 24, 2009 By Brian Costello Rex Ryan is not going to tackle the Vernon Gholston project alone. The Jets' first-round draft pick also will have to deal with new defensive coordinator Mike Pettine. Pettine scouted Gholston before last year's draft, when the Jets took him with the sixth pick, and he saw trouble signs then. "I thought he was a tremendous athlete, but being in shorts is one thing and how it carries over to the field is another," Pettine said in a conference call yesterday. "We liked him for sure, but there was a lack of consistency in some of his play. He would have a flash of brilliance for two or three plays, then disappear." With the Jets, he disappeared for nearly his entire rookie season. Gholston finished with one solo tackle on defense and was inactive against Buffalo in December. Coming out of Ohio State, the Jets gave Gholston a contract with $21 million guaranteed. Ryan and Pettine need to make him earn that money now. "From a physical standpoint, he's got all the tools," Pettine said. "I'm looking forward to meeting Vernon and seeing what makes him tick. . . . If the guy's got it in him, we're gonna get it out of him." Pettine followed Ryan from Baltimore, where he was the outside linebackers coach. He took an interesting path to the NFL. His father, also named Mike, is a legendary high school football coach in Pennsylvania. He retired from Central Bucks West in 1999 with 326 victories, four state titles and with the highest winning percentage in state history. Pettine followed his father into coaching, first as a graduate assistant at Pittsburgh and then as a high school coach. The Ravens hired him in 2002 to work in the video department, but he joined the coaching staff a year later. "Whether it was real or perceived, I always felt I had something to prove, being someone who didn't take the traditional path," Pettine said. "There aren't too many high school coaches who make it in the NFL. I've used that to motivate me." Ryan will call the defensive plays, but Pettine will be heavily involved. He promised a flexible system that will employ 3-4 personnel but feature varied looks. "We've always been of the mindset of, you fit your system to the players, not the players to the system," Pettine said. "Over time, you can bring in guys that fit you best, but in the short term, we're not going to come in with the playbook and say we're squeezing New York Jets personnel into the Baltimore Ravens' playbook. The cornerstone of our system is our flexibility." So we got a "legendary" high school coaches son to be our DC. OK. Good Start. Hey if his dad could do it with the Central Bucks, He could do it for the NY Jets!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMaynard Posted January 27, 2009 Share Posted January 27, 2009 I hope they can get this guy to play. For a 1st round pick to have 1 solo tackle all season is pathetic. Watching him rush the passer was pathetic. Did anyone ever see him attempt anything other than a bull rush? No rip move, no swim move, no arm cut, no inside shoulder dip, no spin move, etc. Now, if he tried to do these things and did not execute, blame the player. But when a rookie does not even attempt them, what the heck are the coaches teaching him? Gholston may still end up a bust, but I am confident he will finally get some coaching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drago Posted January 27, 2009 Share Posted January 27, 2009 Watching him rush the passer was pathetic. Did anyone ever see him attempt anything other than a bull rush? No rip move, no swim move, no arm cut, no inside shoulder dip, no spin move, etc. Now, if he tried to do these things and did not execute, blame the player. But when a rookie does not even attempt them, what the heck are the coaches teaching him? Gholston may still end up a bust, but I am confident he will finally get some coaching. that's how i looked at it too. If you're a coach with a talented player, put him into a situation that he is at least moderately comfortable. Build up his confidence (if it's possible), if he had been on the Pats, i guarantee he'd have done something last year (maybe two tackles, haha). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNJet Posted January 27, 2009 Share Posted January 27, 2009 It's not really confidence as it is common sense to me. Vernon knows how to do 1 thing well: rush. The only "coaching" Rex/Pettine need to do is show him an NFL effective technique on shedding blocks. They do that and put Vernon in his role as what he was trained to do and Vernon will be looked at as a success and the media will applaud Rex/Pettine. Mangini was too smart and too stubborn for his own good. He wanted Gholston to play the OLB position as a rookie just as good as Pace and Thomas. That means, he had to be able to read the offense, anticipate when it was a run or pass, and decide whether to drop into coverage or attack the QB based on the play called. So, this was Mangini's direction to Vernon: "You see X formation, you do Y, you see the RB do Z, you do A, but if the QB does C, you do G, but if the TE does L, you must do S but only if the QB does K and the RB does T." Rex/Pettine's direction to Vernon will be: "Go after the QB, and if you see the RB get the ball, go after him." Exactly,thats what will make the Ryan/Pettine term brilliant,its simplicity. Just stay aggressive and go get'em. Reminds me of something we once had called the Sack Exchange. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LWC611 Posted January 27, 2009 Share Posted January 27, 2009 The new coordinator also almost came out and said Gholston was a reach. Almost.. I think he was pretty clear. The article said that Ryan was going to call the defensive plays, if that's the case what is the DC corordinating? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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