SenorGato Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 Just reading some speculation on other board that he might be gone from the Saints next year due to price. How interested would you be? I'm halfway there...sounds like a loud way to replace Brad Smith and gain a pass catcher at the same time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 I'd be very interested if I wasn't 99 % sure Schottenheimer would waste his talents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4HCrew Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 I'd be very interested if I wasn't 99 % sure Schottenheimer would waste his talents. based on his price tag as compared to his repeated injuries I will pass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falcon63 Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 ^^^Exactly. Heck, if he's interested though, sign him! As a WR though, not a HB. And have him run the WC, and return kicks and punts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 Just reading some speculation on other board that he might be gone from the Saints next year due to price. How interested would you be? I'm halfway there...sounds like a loud way to replace Brad Smith and gain a pass catcher at the same time. I think you answered your own question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visajets Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 Reggie Bush is a beast. Remember the 2010 Super Bowl performance. I think we are staying with LT,SG and JM maybe draft a RB in the later rounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Troll Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 Reggie Bush is a beast. Remember the 2010 Super Bowl performance. I think we are staying with LT,SG and JM maybe draft a RB in the later rounds. One good performance in five pro years makes one a beast? There's still hope for Vernon Gholston after all! Reggie Bush is an over-glorified slot receiver, and not a very good one, judging from his ridiculously terrible career yards per catch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visajets Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 One good performance in five pro years makes one a beast? There's still help for Vernon Gholston after all! Reggie Bush is an over-glorified slot receiver, and not a very good one, judging from his ridiculously terrible career yards per catch. He put up 1000 all purpose yards in each of his healthy seasons I think 4 not able to look it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanInDenver Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 I like bush! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visajets Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 Id sign Reggie Bush and cut LT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Troll Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 He put up 1000 all purpose yards in each of his healthy seasons I think 4 not able to look it up. Getting 1,000 all-purpose yards makes you a beast? 31 yards rushing a game + 31 yards receiving a game = BEAST! Pretty sure Darren Sproles is a free agent, and he could be our "beast" for much less money. BTW, Bush has ONE season of 1,000+ all-purpose yards. You were close when you said four, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visajets Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 Getting 1,000 all-purpose yards makes you a beast? 31 yards rushing a game + 31 yards receiving a game = BEAST! Pretty sure Darren Sproles is a free agent, and he could be our "beast" for much less money. BTW, Bush has ONE season of 1,000+ all-purpose yards. You were close when you said four, though. No way Sproles. 2006-1309yds 2007-999yds 2006 848yds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Troll Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 No way Sproles. 2006-1309yds 2007-999yds 2006 848yds Oh. So the exact same amount of times as Reggie Bush. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 many many other higher priorities pass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visajets Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 Oh. So the exact same amount of times as Reggie Bush. Those are Reggie Bush stats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted February 9, 2011 Author Share Posted February 9, 2011 I think you answered your own question. I'm working with the idea that since the Saints might cut him to not pay him 10 million dollars, he won't get 10 million on the open market. This isn't scientific by any means, but I'd say he's a 6-8 million dollar player at this point if he finished last season healthy...which he didn't...yeah scratch that...I'd be very interested but it'd have to come cheap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visajets Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 I'm working with the idea that since the Saints might cut him to not pay him 10 million dollars, he won't get 10 million on the open market. This isn't scientific by any means, but I'd say he's a 5-6 million dollar player at this point + whatever any random might value his name recognition at this point. He would be an improvement over LT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted February 9, 2011 Author Share Posted February 9, 2011 He would be an improvement over LT. Not really, and LT isn't the guy I'd look for him to replace either. Well...maybe...that's interesting...if we had a better passer and he was fully healthy I feel like I'd agree with you...play him as a Kevin Faulk type plus let him handle the kicking game...how quickly would the non-existent screen game come back to life...The guy is young and enough of an athlete to pull off a few good years if he can stay healthy. This is why I asked the question I guess...He'd be a very interesting story if he hit FA. He's clearly a jack of all trades/master of none type...but...yeah with athletes like him in a sentence like this there's always a but. The athleticism, even if it's not the same as it was when he was 19/20, is still likely to be better than most...plus he's got a little experience, a little chip on his shoulder, a little dirt on his nose, all that corny stuff that a hack writer for the Post would write about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 Gato, you want to give a 3rd down back $6-8 million when we already have one, possibly 2 of those on the roster already, along with 17 other free agents to work on? Priorities man, priorities. Speaking of which, time for you to prioritize mafia. For reals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted February 9, 2011 Author Share Posted February 9, 2011 Gato, you want to give a 3rd down back $6-8 million when we already have one, possibly 2 of those on the roster already, along with 17 other free agents to work on? Priorities man, priorities. Speaking of which, time for you to prioritize mafia. For reals. Iunno I just want a better team...and I doubt 6-8 million right now...maybe 4-5 on a one year deal...if that even happens in the NFL...I have no idea why I'm speaking as if I'm a contract expert. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 Iunno I just want a better team...and I doubt 6-8 million right now...maybe 4-5 on a one year deal...if that even happens in the NFL...I have no idea why I'm speaking as if I'm a contract expert. Its possible he's looking for a 1-year deal. Maybe sign on with a good team, pad his numbers, then get a bigger contract after the CBA mess is dealt with. I still don't think I'd pay him $4-5 million. You don't pay that price for a glorified scatback. That's the figure Leon Washington wanted and Tannenbaum laughed at him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted February 9, 2011 Author Share Posted February 9, 2011 Its possible he's looking for a 1-year deal. Maybe sign on with a good team, pad his numbers, then get a bigger contract after the CBA mess is dealt with. I still don't think I'd pay him $4-5 million. You don't pay that price for a glorified scatback. That's the figure Leon Washington wanted and Tannenbaum laughed at him. Scatback is like the 5th thing I'd use him for...Leon never put up 1000 yards or had Bush's TD production...Bush is a really good player, he's just not the player he was dreamed to be coming out of school...which should have been obvious because he was a college RB with nooooooo power on the college level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 Scatback is like the 5th thing I'd use him for...Leon never put up 1000 yards or had Bush's TD production...Bush is a really good player, he's just not the player he was dreamed to be coming out of school...which should have been obvious because he was a college RB with nooooooo power on the college level. I agree that Bush > Leon, but you're saying we should pay Bush more than double what Leon was worth to basically do the same job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted February 9, 2011 Author Share Posted February 9, 2011 I agree that Bush > Leon, but you're saying we should pay Bush more than double what Leon was worth to basically do the same job. TO do the same job better. Not to mention he's like 4 years younger and still really hasn't found his true niche in this league...Washington is that player because that's really all he can be....Bush is bigger, faster, quicker, catches the ball better...generally just offers way more upside....plus I'm a big believer on buying low on guys like Bush...big time talent/potential but a perception of under performing and even getting the soft knock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 TO do the same job better. Not to mention he's like 4 years younger and still really hasn't found his true niche in this league...Washington is that player because that's really all he can be....Bush is bigger, faster, quicker, catches the ball better...generally just offers way more upside. Does he do the job "better enough" to justify the amount we'd have to pay him? Only to watch his talents get wasted by Schotty? I say no. If we didn't have Braylon, Santonio, Harris and Cromartie to figure out, and if it were clear what the new CBA will be looking like, Bush would pique my interest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted February 9, 2011 Author Share Posted February 9, 2011 Does he do the job "better enough" to justify the amount we'd have to pay him? Only to watch his talents get wasted by Schotty? I say no. If we didn't have Braylon, Santonio, Harris and Cromartie to figure out, and if it were clear what the new CBA will be looking like, Bush would pique my interest. 1. He's a potential cut candidate because he'll be overpaid otherwise. Gut says he's not going to be a huge expense. 2. Why would his talents be wasted by Schotty? Schotty found a way to turn a RB who isn't a full time RB into an overrated weapon who thought he was a 5+ million dollar RB and then did the same thing for a WR who can't catch... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damaged89 Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 2. Why would his talents be wasted by Schotty? Schotty found a way to turn a RB who isn't a full time RB into an overrated weapon who thought he was a 5+ million dollar RB and then did the same thing for a WR who can't catch... Do you mean Westhoff? Because you sound like you're talking about Westhoff, not Schotty. I don't think he should get credit for Smith's wildcat success. The dude knew how to run the option before he came into the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 I don't think he should get credit for Smith's wildcat success. The dude knew how to run the option before he came into the league. Agreed. The option was pretty much all Smith DID run at Memphis. He wasn't much of a thrower. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visajets Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 Agreed. The option was pretty much all Smith DID run at Memphis. He wasn't much of a thrower. SMITH CAREER PASSING STATISTICS G-GS Co.-Att. Pct. Yds. TDs INTs Rating 2002 12-12 196-366 53.6% 2,333 15 6 117.34 2003 13-13 211-350 60.3% 1,977 11 7 114.11 2004 11-11 191-369 51.8% 2,185 17 11 110.74 2005 12-12 237-399 59.4% 2,304 13 9 114.14 Totals 48-48 835-1,484 56.3% 8,799 56 33 114.10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted February 10, 2011 Author Share Posted February 10, 2011 Do you mean Westhoff? Because you sound like you're talking about Westhoff, not Schotty. I don't think he should get credit for Smith's wildcat success. The dude knew how to run the option before he came into the league. Not many people would look at Brad Smith and go..."you know what'd be perfect to run with this guy at the pro level? A pistol formation." It's not as if the Wildcat or w/e you want to call it was a popular offensive feature in '06 when we started using it...What'd Westhoff do? Tell him to run when he has the ball in his hands and tackle the guy when the other team is receiving the ball? Smith's never done that or seen it? I do hear alot of these players usually have experience playing football before entering the pros. Ah the Schottenheimer thing...guy can't buy an ounce of credit...I miss those debates, will they be going on this offseason? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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