Larz Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 LMAo @ what you think is "proof". Marshall Faulk whiing about losing a game and claiming Warner and Martz agreeing the Pats "must have" cheated. Funny what Jet fans call "proof". my favorite tired old chowd defense is the one to this question; "if it didn't happen, or didn't matter, why did the NFL fine the team, the coach personally (extremely rare) and impose the harshest penalty in league history and then destroy the evidence"? hold on, gotta get the popcorn.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roscoeword Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 I remember the mudbowl well, and I remember how it made me hate Richard Todd even more. But someone remind me, why was a sloppy field to the Dolphin's advantage? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 Big Difference between not covering a field and Cheating by illegal viseotaping of signals, walkthrus and illegal radio jamming of helmet communication. Not even going to go into the illegal injury reports Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 Big Difference between not covering a field and Cheating by illegal viseotaping of signals, walkthrus and illegal radio jamming of helmet communication. Not even going to go into the illegal injury reports You are suppose to get smarter in old age. Obviously, you are still dumber than a doornail if you believe that stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 You are suppose to get smarter in old age. Obviously, you are still dumber than a doornail if you believe that stuff. You are suppose to get smarter in old age. Obviously, you are still dumber than a doornail if you believe that stuff. walthru taping occurred, swept under rug. Illegal radiojamming will come out in due time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 I remember the mudbowl well, and I remember how it made me hate Richard Todd even more. But someone remind me, why was a sloppy field to the Dolphin's advantage? Because it killed the game for Freeman,Walker and Shuler and even slowed down the Jets pass rush with bad footing.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuidoYastrzemski Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 my favorite tired old chowd defense is the one to this question; "if it didn't happen, or didn't matter, why did the NFL fine the team, the coach personally (extremely rare) and impose the harshest penalty in league history and then destroy the evidence"? hold on, gotta get the popcorn.... That's been answered so many times I won't repeat the perfectly good and acceptable answers to you here for two reasons. One: Your mind is completely closed and unable to have a rational discussion on the subject of the most overblown "scandal" in the history of sport. Crygate is the crutch that all perpetual losers cling to like a child to her binky. And second, I have (yet another annual playoff) game to watch. Another possible run to a Super Bowl. And I like our chances this years as it's the best team they've had on BOTH sides of the ball in a decade. Enjoy your popcorn while you cry in your beer watching my Pats play the kind of football you've never seen from your team in green. It'll be a tough game for sure, no gimmie by a long shot, of that we'll probably agree. Go Pats! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sg3 Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 Ravens. 21 Zebras. 14 S**triots. 0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuidoYastrzemski Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 Ravens. 21 Zebras. 14 S**triots. 0 Proving once and again how much football you know there Spunky Goo. You must be looking forward to next week's AFC Championship, cuz even if they lose that's a great accomplishment, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sg3 Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 you are off to permaignore have a good life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelticwizard Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 LMAo @ what you think is "proof". Marshall Faulk whiing about losing a game and claiming Warner and Martz agreeing the Pats "must have" cheated. Funny what Jet fans call "proof". Don't take this personally-actually you can take it personally for all I care-but in all things football related the word and judgment of Marshall Faulk alone counts for 1,000 times more than your word or judgment on anything. Add the word of another HOFer in Warner, plus Martz, and oh yes, Hines Ward saying the same thing, and the proof is there for anybody with a shred of honesty to see. That's been answered so many times I won't repeat the perfectly good and acceptable answers to you here for two reasons. One: Your mind is completely closed and unable to have a rational discussion on the subject of the most overblown "scandal" in the history of sport. Crygate is the crutch that all perpetual losers cling to like a child to her binky. And second, I have (yet another annual playoff) game to watch. Another possible run to a Super Bowl. And I like our chances this years as it's the best team they've had on BOTH sides of the ball in a decade. Enjoy your popcorn while you cry in your beer watching my Pats play the kind of football you've never seen from your team in green. It'll be a tough game for sure, no gimmie by a long shot, of that we'll probably agree. Go Pats! Two alleged "answers" and not a word of substance. If you just want to brag about the Patriots' record, why are you on this board? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neckdemon Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 And apparently belichick had to resort to some shady substitution practices yesterday to beat the Ravens. Pats cant win in the postseason straight up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatriotReign37 Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 And apparently belichick had to resort to some shady substitution practices yesterday to beat the Ravens. Pats cant win in the postseason straight up Sheer Genius. Best damn HC in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sg3 Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 Sheer Genius. Best damn HC in the NFL. Looked good in his striped shirt, whistle and with those yellow flags too....oh wait, that old guy wasn't Cheating Bill....whoever he was, I agree....sheer genius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuidoYastrzemski Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 Don't take this personally-actually you can take it personally for all I care-but in all things football related the word and judgment of Marshall Faulk alone counts for 1,000 times more than your word or judgment on anything. Add the word of another HOFer in Warner, plus Martz, and oh yes, Hines Ward saying the same thing, and the proof is there for anybody with a shred of honesty to see. Two alleged "answers" and not a word of substance. If you just want to brag about the Patriots' record, why are you on this board? I didn't see any actual "quotes" from Warner or Martz. Just old butrt-hurt Faulk crying in his milk. Oh, and what about the words of Jimmy Johnson and Bill Cowher, both of whom have forgotten more about football, than you or I have ever known, who said Spygate was no big deal and it happeded ALL THE TIME. They admitted to doing it themselves. Even the rat himself, Mangini, said it's an overblown story that he wished he'd never started (of course, he got caught doing the EXACT SAME THING for the Jets the following year). Diference was, the Pats didn't turn him in to the NFL when he was caught. They just told him to cut it out. You Spybabies convenient ingore those experts but embrace the bruised egos of of butt hurt players like Faulk and Ward. BFD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatriotReign37 Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 Looked good in his striped shirt, whistle and with those yellow flags too....oh wait, that old guy wasn't Cheating Bill....whoever he was, I agree....sheer genius Harbaugh could have called a timeout but is too stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatriotReign37 Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 Looked good in his striped shirt, whistle and with those yellow flags too....oh wait, that old guy wasn't Cheating Bill....whoever he was, I agree....sheer genius At least youll always have the Yankees. The Cheating Dynasty of baseball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neckdemon Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 Sheer Genius. Best damn HC in the NFL. the pats whole dynasty is predicated on cheating. congratulations......the only people who think the pats are legit is pats fans. everyone else just thinks they are cheaters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rexorcism Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 Big Difference between not covering a field and Cheating by illegal viseotaping of signals, walkthrus, illegal radio jamming of helmet communication AND HIDING THE ELIGIBLE - INELLIGIBLE RECEIVERS FROM THE OTHER TEAM BY TRICKERY. Not even going to go into the illegal injury reports FIXED Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuidoYastrzemski Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 FIXED You have a funny way of looking at things. How is declaring yourself inellibible directly to the ref before lining up "hiding"? This should be interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rexorcism Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 You have a funny way of looking at things. How is declaring yourself inellibible directly to the ref before lining up "hiding"? This should be interesting. Go sniff up another dog's ass, troll...that debate ended hours ago, too bad you weren't around Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuidoYastrzemski Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 Go sniff up another dog's ass, troll...that debate ended hours ago, too bad you weren't around Way to deflect the question. Great insight there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rexorcism Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 Way to deflect the question. Great insight there. Just go read the thread, bro...my thoughts and insights are all there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuidoYastrzemski Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 Just go read the thread, bro...my thoughts and insights are all there Dude, I read the thread and I believe this is the first time you incorrectly called the play where the reciever declared himself inelligible as "illegal". It's not. At all. Perfectly legal and a brilliant play I might add. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rexorcism Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 Dude, I read the thread and I believe this is the first time you incorrectly called the play where the reciever declared himself inelligible as "illegal". It's not. At all. Perfectly legal and a brilliant play I might add. Whatever its a matter of opinion, I quickly posted that without thinking...My point is that its another example of Belichick and the Pats finding a way to undermine the spirit of the rules...By having someone quickly tell the ref he's ineligible right before Brady calls signals is banking on confusing the ref into not calling an official TO to announce the ineligible and give the Ravens the proper time to match up and it worked that stupid ref let them rush the snap and screwed the Ravens on those plays... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuidoYastrzemski Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 Whatever its a matter of opinion, I quickly posted that without thinking...My point is that its another example of Belichick and the Pats finding a way to undermine the spirit of the rules...By having someone quickly tell the ref he's ineligible right before Brady calls signals is banking on confusing the ref into not calling an official TO to announce the ineligible and give the Ravens the proper time to match up and it worked that stupid ref let them rush the snap and screwed the Ravens on those plays... It's not an opinion, it's a fact, It was totally 100% within the rules. You want to blame the ref's (in)actions on some subterfuge from BB and the Pats when they have ZERO control over what the ref would or should do in that circumstance. And please show me in the entire NFL rulebook where it says anything about "spirit of the rules". Was the mugging that Gronk got that was yet another non-call, within the spirit of the rules? What sissy sport do you play where "spirit of the rules" is a thing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 Whatever its a matter of opinion, I quickly posted that without thinking...My point is that its another example of Belichick and the Pats finding a way to undermine the spirit of the rules. Give me a break with the "spirit of the rules" crap. The only objective in the NFL is to gain whatever competitive advantage you can "within the rules". Just like the Pats did yesterday. If you want to watch teams play within the "spirit of the rules", spend your Sundays watching Pop Warner games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rexorcism Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 It's not an opinion, it's a fact, It was totally 100% within the rules. You want to blame the ref's (in)actions on some subterfuge from BB and the Pats when they have ZERO control over what the ref would or should do in that circumstance. And please show me in the entire NFL rulebook where it says anything about "spirit of the rules". Was the mugging that Gronk got that was yet another non-call, within the spirit of the rules? What sissy sport do you play where "spirit of the rules" is a thing? The spirit of the rules is something that Belichick loves to ignore...The spirit of the rule is to not be a scummy and underhanded. Douchebag. The other team is supposed to be notified whos eligible and is supposed be allowed to see your formation. After that they're supposed to be given time to substitute and match up their defense... Its supposed to be a "Here's our lineup, match up and beat us man to man if u can". Not this scummy BS that Belichick is famous for.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 The spirit of the rules is something that Belichick loves to ignore...The spirit of the rule is to not be a scummy and underhanded. The other team is supposed to be notified whos eligible and is supposed be allowed to see your formation. After that they're supposed to be given time to substitute and match up their defense... Its supposed to be a "Here's our lineup, match up and beat us man to man if u can". Not this scummy BS that Belichick is famous for.. Again, go watch Pop Warner games if you don't like great NFL coaches gaining a competitive advantage to always win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rexorcism Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 Give me a break with the "spirit of the rules" crap. The only objective in the NFL is to gain whatever competitive advantage you can "within the rules". Just like the Pats did yesterday. If you want to watch teams play within the "spirit of the rules", spend your Sundays watching Pop Warner games. Again, go watch Pop Warner games if you don't like great NFL coaches gaining a competitive advantage to always win.Whatever, obviously I disagree, I wouldn't want my playoff wins or SB wins tainted by more cheap bending the rules BS but thats just me, you guys have had a successful year and you still hang at a Jets board throwing daggers every five minutes at Jet fans.... You expect me or other Jet fans to throw you bouqets? I say F ck you and your cheating, scummy team. And as usual your cheating, scummy team always proves me right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 belicheat has reduced the past* faithful to professional apologists and excuse makers and sin spinners it would be sad if it wasn't so funny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rexorcism Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 belicheat has reduced the past* faithful to professional apologists and excuse makers and sin spinners it would be sad if it wasn't so funny It is funny, isn't it? There's no way they win 2 straight from here, If we were in with our shlt QB we'd beat them right now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuidoYastrzemski Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 It is funny, isn't it? There's no way they win 2 straight from here, If we were in with our shlt QB we'd beat them right now... Your f'n delusional. Your team barely scraped out 4 wins. What's worse is you are blaming Belichick for the ref's actions of which he has NO control. Shows your inherent bias and inability to see reality even more than the idiotic thinking that Gee-Nope could beat the Pats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rexorcism Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 Your f'n delusional. Your team barely scraped out 4 wins. What's worse is you are blaming Belichick for the ref's actions of which he has NO control. Shows your inherent bias and inability to see reality even more than the idiotic thinking that Gee-Nope could beat the Pats. My crappy four win team (like you say) lost to your team twice because of a blocked or missed field goal, some juggernaut you guys are. Of course, Our ex Rex could have beaten you guys if we played again, no need for delusion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuidoYastrzemski Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 It's not "like I say". That's exactly what you were. 4 wins is 4 wins dude. And I'm thrilled we get to keep playing against a Wrecks Cryin' miscoached team 2x per year. Nothing changes....A team that has no QB and plays in a sh!thole. Same deal., Different day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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