4HCrew Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 With the signing of Dwight does he lose responsibilities? he really only had one year back there..too explosive to take off special teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 With the signing of Dwight does he lose responsibilities? he really only had one year back there..too explosive to take off special teams. They both can sit back for kicks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbn007 Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 I agree. Both will be there for Kick Returns. Dwight probably gets the punt reyurn job though, for now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4HCrew Posted March 22, 2006 Author Share Posted March 22, 2006 I am hoping so..maybe with some new philosophies and coaching the kid can work it out back there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetfan13 Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 I agree. Both will be there for Kick Returns. Dwight probably gets the punt reyurn job though, for now. and I am fine with that...Miller seems a bit shaky fielding punts so far...but when he has time to see the field, like on KO's, he is a factor...he just needs to cradle the ball a little better....ok A LOT BETTER.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stonehands Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 If Miller is going to be relied on more on the defensive side, it only makes sense that you want to lessen his risks on the return side. Plus, the Jets get a big play guy for their offense. All of their receivers were similar as far as speed and quickness prior to this move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 If Miller is going to be relied on more on the defensive side, it only makes sense that you want to lessen his risks on the return side. Plus, the Jets get a big play guy for their offense. All of their receivers were similar as far as speed and quickness prior to this move. Dwight not only has great straight line speed, but he has tremendous speed off of cuts. Something the Jets don't seem to have a lot of right now, an something Wayne Chrebet excelled at early in his career. Dwight is actually a very good receiver for a Pennington type-Throw the ball to a spot and need the WR to be there. All that being said, he is just a cmpliment to the offense, albeit a decent one. Dwight was a key chip in the Michael Vick trade up for the Falcons and SD deal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rajensen088 Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 If Mangini had any sense with all the cap room he'd cut Miller tomorrow and cut the Jets losses on another awful Bradway athlete over player draft pick. Miller wasn't good enough in college to make first or second team all conference. He's awful. Want proof? He's dead last in the entire NFL in making plays where it counts. Defensive Playmaker ratings of the entire NFL: http://www.twominutewarning.com/d05rtg.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinnys025 Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 I hope Miller starts at cb next year. From what i've seen this guy has some talent and cant make an impact in the years to come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 and I am fine with that...Miller seems a bit shaky fielding punts so far...but when he has time to see the field, like on KO's, he is a factor...he just needs to cradle the ball a little better....ok A LOT BETTER.. Dwight did not muff one punt the entire season last year. How many did Miller mishandle? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetfan13 Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 Dwight did not muff one punt the entire season last year. How many did Miller mishandle? isn't that what I said? hey Tx, reading comprehension 101, buddy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 isn't that what I said? hey Tx, reading comprehension 101, buddy Reading comprehension? 13, I was agreeing with you and pointed out a few facts to support your arguement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderbirdJet Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 If Mangini had any sense with all the cap room he'd cut Miller tomorrow and cut the Jets losses on another awful Bradway athlete over player draft pick. Miller wasn't good enough in college to make first or second team all conference. He's awful. Want proof? He's dead last in the entire NFL in making plays where it counts. Defensive Playmaker ratings of the entire NFL: http://www.twominutewarning.com/d05rtg.htm Are you still pimping that dumb ass site after it's credibilty has been repeatedly shot down in flames? Amoung the many adjectives I would use to describe you, one of the only unbannable ones is that you are persistant. Miller might still get some KO returns, but he just can't catch punts. In TC last year, he dropped about half of the punts he tried to catch, but Edwards put him back there anyway...... another of the many reasons I think Edwards is an idiot. As a CB, Miller has pro bowl potential. He was just as responsible for shutting down Steve Smith last year as Law was. I'd prefer not to "Seahorn" him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetfan13 Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 Reading comprehension? 13, I was agreeing with you and pointed out a few facts to support your arguement. oh, NEVER MIND... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinnys025 Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 isn't that what I said? hey Tx, reading comprehension 101, buddy Well, I for one get very nervous with Miller back there catching PUnts. I think Dwight will return punts, and miller will be the main guy back ther to return kicks, cause he's a great kick returner for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadetree Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 I havent seen much discussion on our underachieving secondary. I'm of the opinion that we have enough semi-raw talent there(Miller,Rhodes, Strait, and, yes, even Barrett) that a very good secondary coach, like Mangini, could coach 'em up to be a very good unit. Draft and FA acquisitions for the front seven would improve the defense even further. It would be asking alot to expect a dramatic turnaround, but it's really not that far fetched if look at it like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 I havent seen much discussion on our underachieving secondary. I'm of the opinion that we have enough semi-raw talent there(Miller,Rhodes, Strait, and, yes, even Barrett) that a very good secondary coach, like Mangini, could coach 'em up to be a very good unit. Draft and FA acquisitions for the front seven would improve the defense even further. It would be asking alot to expect a dramatic turnaround, but it's really not that far fetched if look at it like that. Mangini had a LB and WR playing in his secondary. I look for the Jets secondary to be dramatically improved, even if they don't have any additions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadetree Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 Mangini had a LB and WR playing in his secondary. I look for the Jets secondary to be dramatically improved, even if they don't have any additions. What's up, TX!!! Still getting under the skin of the masses, I've noticed. I agree..the secondary should see an improvement regardless of additions. I wonder if there is any chance Ty Law returns? If his asking price drops, we have the money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderbirdJet Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 What's the story with Dyson? I heard we were looking at him.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 Mangini had a LB and WR playing in his secondary. I look for the Jets secondary to be dramatically improved, even if they don't have any additions. Just goes to show you how Lame Hermie was..A ex DB and that was the weakest part of the Team!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadetree Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 What's the story with Dyson? I heard we were looking at him.... I heard the same thing. Compared to other FA CB's (namely Woodson,and Law) where does he stand in the $$$ demands/talent ratio? Do we need one of these FA CB's, or do we trust Mangini with Strait/Miller? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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