faba Posted April 4, 2006 Share Posted April 4, 2006 Vikings discuss trade for Falcons backup Schaub Though the talks did not lead to formal negotiations, it was an indication the Vikings want quarterback depth. Kevin Seifert, Star Tribune Last update: April 04, 2006 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Ferraro Posted April 4, 2006 Share Posted April 4, 2006 Matt Schaub gives new meaning to the word overrated. The man had one good game in his career, and everyone is ready to annoit him their franchise QB. He has proven nothing. Be thankful Atlanta wouldn't let the Jets get ripped off trading for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L.I.MikeBleedsGreen Posted April 4, 2006 Share Posted April 4, 2006 Matt Schaub gives new meaning to the word overrated. The man had one good game in his career, and everyone is ready to annoit him their franchise QB. He has proven nothing. Be thankful Atlanta wouldn't let the Jets get ripped off trading for him.your right nick, thank the jet gods for that one this guy is way overated IMO P.S. this guy is not a franchise Q.b Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted April 4, 2006 Share Posted April 4, 2006 Matt Schaub gives new meaning to the word overrated. The man had one good game in his career, and everyone is ready to annoit him their franchise QB. I agree. Lienart, Cutler and Young all have better NFL credentials than Schaub. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boozer76 Posted April 4, 2006 Share Posted April 4, 2006 I agree. Lienart, Cutler and Young all have better NFL credentials than Schaub. Actually, all things considered their credentials are not that far behind. Schaub had one good game against the Pats. Take away that game and look at his stats and you will see that he really has done nothing on the field to warrant all the attention he gets. AJ Feeley did more for PHI that Schaub has for ATL, and we all know how that worked out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted April 4, 2006 Share Posted April 4, 2006 Actually, all things considered their credentials are not that far behind. Schaub had one good game against the Pats. Take away that game and look at his stats and you will see that he really has done nothing on the field to warrant all the attention he gets. AJ Feeley did more for PHI that Schaub has for ATL, and we all know how that worked out. Booz, I know Schaub has only had one real good NFL game. But he has been through two training camps and two full seasons in an NFL offense. That alone, puts him way ahead of Cutler, Leinart and Young. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boozer76 Posted April 4, 2006 Share Posted April 4, 2006 Booz, I know Schaub has only had one real good NFL game. But he has been through two training camps and two full seasons in an NFL offense. That alone, puts him way ahead of Cutler, Leinart and Young. So has Brooks Bollinger. You telling me he is way ahead of Leinart/Cutler/Young? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted April 4, 2006 Share Posted April 4, 2006 So has Brooks Bollinger. You telling me he is way ahead of Leinart/Cutler/Young? Come on Booz, are you really comparing Bollinger to Schaub? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boozer76 Posted April 4, 2006 Share Posted April 4, 2006 Come on Booz, are you really comparing Bollinger to Schaub? No, I'm saying that using NFL experience as a catalyst to support a claim that Shaub is better than Leinart/oung/Cutler is a bit ridiculous. Shaub has done nothing to warrant the hype he is receiving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GREENSMACKS Posted April 4, 2006 Share Posted April 4, 2006 schaub is a west coast offense guy he ran it at college and minny will run it as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azjet Posted April 4, 2006 Share Posted April 4, 2006 Come on Booz, are you really comparing Bollinger to Schaub? No comparison......Bollinger was and is better than Schaub. Hell, for that matter he's better than Vick too. Why this guy has to be bad in order for some folks to eat breakfast is beyond me. Part of the "Bitskrieg"? Any QB with game time is better than any QB in the draft, period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted April 4, 2006 Share Posted April 4, 2006 Any QB with game time is better than any QB in the draft, period. For some reason, I still don't think Booz agrees with us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boozer76 Posted April 4, 2006 Share Posted April 4, 2006 For some reason, I still don't think Booz agrees with us. So you're telling me that We should not think about taking a QB because Bollinger is better than them by default due to the fact he has played in the NFL? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted April 4, 2006 Share Posted April 4, 2006 So you're telling me that We should not think about taking a QB because Bollinger is better than them by default due to the fact he has played in the NFL? Not saying that at all. What I am saying is that QB's (even back-ups) who have NFL game experience have a leg up on college players who have yet to be drafted. Not saying that back-up QB's have a better skill set than college QB's. Just don't under estimate the value of game experience in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boozer76 Posted April 4, 2006 Share Posted April 4, 2006 Not saying that at all. What I am saying is that QB's (even back-ups) who have NFL game experience have a leg up on college players who have yet to be drafted. Not saying that back-up QB's have a better skill set than college QB's. Just don't under estimate the value of game experience in the NFL. So are you saying that you feel Shaub has a better skill set than Leinart/Cutler/Young? If that's the case then just come out and say it. There's no sense in saying Shaub is more valuable simply because he has NFL experience and then backtracking that statement on Bollinger. You want your cake and eat it too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted April 4, 2006 Share Posted April 4, 2006 So are you saying that you feel Shaub has a better skill set than Leinart/Cutler/Young? If that's the case then just come out and say it. There's no sense in saying Shaub is more valuable simply because he has NFL experience and then backtracking that statement on Bollinger. You want your cake and eat it too. As of right now, yes, I feel Schaub has a better NFL skill set than those 3. How did Troy Aikman do his first year? Very tough to walk in as a rookie QB and get the job done. It takes time and game experience to improve your skill set in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boozer76 Posted April 4, 2006 Share Posted April 4, 2006 As of right now, yes, I feel Schaub has a better NFL skill set than those 3. How did Troy Aikman do his first year? Very tough to walk in as a rookie QB and get the job done. It takes time and game experience to improve your skill set in the NFL. Holy sh*t when did you become a politician? You made a point that Shaub's credentials are better than Leinart/Young/Cutler to Nick Ferraro earlier in this thread (in your sarcastic style that we've all come to love chock full of :eek: ). Furthermore, at least in this thread, Ferarro said nothing about the trio of draftees, just that he felt Shaub is overrated, which I agree. So again, what point were you trying to make? Better yet, answer this: If you are starting your franchise today, would you trade for Shaub or draft one of ?Leinart/Young/Cutler? Once you answer this then we can have a normal semi-homoerotic adult conversation on this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted April 4, 2006 Share Posted April 4, 2006 If you are starting your franchise today, would you trade for Shaub or draft one of ?Leinart/Young/Cutler? Once you answer this then we can have a normal semi-homoerotic adult conversation on this. Seeing that Schaub could be had for a 2nd or 3rd rounder and no huge signing bonus, I would go that route instead taking one of the other 3 with a top 10 draft pick. A good franchise is always prudent with their money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boozer76 Posted April 4, 2006 Share Posted April 4, 2006 Seeing that Schaub could be had for a 2nd or 3rd rounder and no huge signing bonus, I would go that route instead taking one of the other 3 with a top 10 draft pick. A good franchise is always prudent with their money. Ahhh....and good prudent franchises always know that they have the future #1 QB in the league waiting for them in the 6th round too, don't they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted April 4, 2006 Share Posted April 4, 2006 Ahhh....and good prudent franchises always know that they have the future #1 QB in the league waiting for them in the 6th round too, don't they? Yup, that was great scouting by the Pats on that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LionelRichie Posted April 4, 2006 Share Posted April 4, 2006 Actually, all things considered their credentials are not that far behind. Schaub had one good game against the Pats. Take away that game and look at his stats and you will see that he really has done nothing on the field to warrant all the attention he gets. AJ Feeley did more for PHI that Schaub has for ATL, and we all know how that worked out. schaub was the acc player of the year, in the same conference as rivers who went 4th in the draft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smizzy Posted April 4, 2006 Share Posted April 4, 2006 Seeing that Schaub could be had for a 2nd or 3rd rounder and no huge signing bonus, I would go that route instead taking one of the other 3 with a top 10 draft pick. A good franchise is always prudent with their money. He can be had for a 2nd? Atlanta wants a 1st for Schuab. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smizzy Posted April 4, 2006 Share Posted April 4, 2006 As of right now, yes, I feel Schaub has a better NFL skill set than those 3. How did Troy Aikman do his first year? Very tough to walk in as a rookie QB and get the job done. It takes time and game experience to improve your skill set in the NFL. Cough-Big Ben-Cough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted April 4, 2006 Share Posted April 4, 2006 Cough-Big Ben-Cough I'm talking about rookie quarterbacks who threw at least 10 passes a game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted April 4, 2006 Share Posted April 4, 2006 He can be had for a 2nd? Atlanta wants a 1st for Schuab. I thought they backed down from wanting a 1st rounder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuikVick_26 Posted April 4, 2006 Share Posted April 4, 2006 the reason he is so popular is that he is the prototype qb. pefect size, good arm/accuracy, and his mobility is also a +. on top of all that, he has nfl production. thats the thing with all the rook qbs in the draft. cutler has all the measurements, but didn't have alot of college production. Leinart has the production in the college game, but his arm strength and knee are in question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Preston Howley III Posted April 4, 2006 Share Posted April 4, 2006 the reason he is so popular is that he is the prototype qb. pefect size, good arm/accuracy, and his mobility is also a +. on top of all that, he has nfl production. And he's not starting why? Ron Mexico? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuikVick_26 Posted April 4, 2006 Share Posted April 4, 2006 And he's not starting why? Ron Mexico? Because Michael Vick is our starting qb. his winning % and contract say so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Preston Howley III Posted April 5, 2006 Share Posted April 5, 2006 Because Michael Vick is our starting qb. his winning % and contract say so. Sounds like a real vote of confidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuikVick_26 Posted April 5, 2006 Share Posted April 5, 2006 Sounds like a real vote of confidence. better to have a qb controversy that results in one winning the job and the other traded than one where one gets the job and the other is released... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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