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The ACC was 5-2 after the 1st rd which is very good but only 1 team remains. I only expected 2 to make the Sweet 16 but 1 did, not that big of a difference. The ACC was best from top to bottom and b/c, unlike the Big East, the ACC didn't have awful teams at the bottom to pad their recrods against and get higher seeds they had tougher matchups in the 2nd rd and lost. Anyone who doesn't think the ACC is better than the BE just look at GU against BC, they tore through the BE Tourney and BC gave them all they could handle the other day. if GU and Pittr played in the ACC they would have been 5 or 6 seeds w/ all the additional losses.

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The ACC was 5-2 after the 1st rd which is very good but only 1 team remains. I only expected 2 to make the Sweet 16 but 1 did, not that big of a difference. The ACC was best from top to bottom and b/c, unlike the Big East, the ACC didn't have awful teams at the bottom to pad their recrods against and get higher seeds they had tougher matchups in the 2nd rd and lost. Anyone who doesn't think the ACC is better than the BE just look at GU against BC, they tore through the BE Tourney and BC gave them all they could handle the other day. if GU and Pittr played in the ACC they would have been 5 or 6 seeds w/ all the additional losses.

nice try skippy!!!!!!!!!!

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nice try skippy!!!!!!!!!!

it's not try, the ACC was still best from top to bottom. The pac 10 was probably the next best then the SEC then the Big 10 then maybe the Big east. the BE was awful- only getting 6 of 16 teams into the Tournament is a terrible job.

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it's not try, the ACC was still best from top to bottom. The pac 10 was probably the next best then the SEC then the Big 10 then maybe the Big east. the BE was awful- only getting 6 of 16 teams into the Tournament is a terrible job.

Ok. If you want to say the Big East wasnt as good as the ACC, fine. But to put the Big 10 ahead of the Big East is a joke. That might be the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard.

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it's not try, the ACC was still best from top to bottom. The pac 10 was probably the next best then the SEC then the Big 10 then maybe the Big east. the BE was awful- only getting 6 of 16 teams into the Tournament is a terrible job.

Spin spin spin. Are you in PR? The Big East has more teams currently in it than the Big Ten and the ACC. The Big Ten should be without any teams as Xavier got scrwed on that no intentional foul call. If the NCAA Selection committee didn't screw ND with a low seed, a bad location, and the best 11 seed in years then you might still see them in as well. Louisville almost beat A&M as well. Just admit you're wrong and move on.

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Spin spin spin. Are you in PR? The Big East has more teams currently in it than the Big Ten and the ACC. The Big Ten should be without any teams as Xavier got scrwed on that no intentional foul call. If the NCAA Selection committee didn't screw ND with a low seed, a bad location, and the best 11 seed in years then you might still see them in as well. Louisville almost beat A&M as well. Just admit you're wrong and move on.

yes but this is because they were given higher seeds (and easier opponents) because they didn't have as many losses as they would've during the season if they were in the ACC.

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Lets face it,, lots of parity these days.

Pitt goes to OT against a team that sinitials sound likel a disease. Texas still alive cause a kid couldnt hot 1 freakin free throw.

Notre Dame and Duke cant survive 1st rond as 6 seeds..

Usually the conference with the most bids is considered to have more depth. That doesnt mean its top teams are better also. Pitt and GTown very good this year , but rest of Big East down a bit. UNC only very good team from ACC this year, but the ACC probably has more quality depth top to bottom.

I dont know enough about Pac10 or SEC. They all seem pretty much equal on any given night.

Hey anyone can just about beat anyone on a hot 3 shootin night.

Of course no one can touch Niagara and Rider ;)

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yes but this is because they were given higher seeds (and easier opponents) because they didn't have as many losses as they would've during the season if they were in the ACC.

Notre Dame lost to one of the best 11 seeds (and should have been higher) pretty much ever. They also beat Maryland handily in the regular season.

Pitt beat the team that beat Duke.

Maryland lost to a lower seeded team in the second round (as did Virginia), Louisville lost to a higher seeded team.

Heck, BC got beat by G-Town.

Oh and the BE has 3 of the last remaining teams left in the NIT, so so much for that whole undeserving argument.

If the ACC were good enough to still be around, they would be.

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yes but this is because they were given higher seeds (and easier opponents) because they didn't have as many losses as they would've during the season if they were in the ACC.

denny i thought you could do better!!!!!!

ACC had a down year only 1 real good team the Holes

Everyone else was not awful but not real good either

pac10 is doing the best this year. More quality teams!!!

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denny i thought you could do better!!!!!!

ACC had a down year only 1 real good team the Holes

Everyone else was not awful but not real good either

pac10 is doing the best this year. More quality teams!!!

i still think acc has the most depth. we beat the hell out of each other all season. pac10 has better teams up top but our 5th, 6th and 7th place teams could beat their's. what does this mean? not much since a league's 6th and 7th place teams don't make tourney runs so the point is academic. truth is you have to judge the league by how many teams make strong ncaa runs-- so in that objective category acc is down. but then again i only care about one team.

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Notre Dame lost to one of the best 11 seeds (and should have been higher) pretty much ever. They also beat Maryland handily in the regular season.

Pitt beat the team that beat Duke.

Maryland lost to a lower seeded team in the second round (as did Virginia), Louisville lost to a higher seeded team.

Heck, BC got beat by G-Town.

Oh and the BE has 3 of the last remaining teams left in the NIT, so so much for that whole undeserving argument.

If the ACC were good enough to still be around, they would be.

Well you cant say that one higher seeds loss is any different than someone elses.

Big East:

- GTown as a 2 has beaten a 15 and a 7 (BC), Not unusual.

- Pitt as a 3 has beaten a 14 and OT win vs a 11. Not unusual.

- ND lost as a 6 to a 11. Come on. Unusual.

- Louisville as a 6 beat a 11 and lost to a 3. Not unusual.

- Marquette as a 8 lost to a 9. Not unusual.

- Villanova as a 9 lost to a 8. Not unusual.

They have a 2 , 3 , two 6's, a 8 and a 9.

5 teams basically following seed form and 1 not.

ACC:

- UNC as a 1 has beaten a 16 and a 9. Not unusual.

- Virginia as a 4 beat a 13 and lost to a 5. Not unusual.

- Maryland as a 5 beat a 13 and lost to a 4 by 3 points. Not unusual.

- Virginia Tech as a 5 beat a 12 and lost to a 4. Not unusual.

- Duke as a 6 lost to a 11. Unusual.

- BC as a 7 beat a 10 and lost as to a 2. Not unusual.

- GTech as a 10 lost to a 7. Not unusual.

They have a 1, 4, two 5's, 6, 7 and a 10.

6 teams basically following seed form and 1 not.

So bottom line is that both the BE and the ACC are playing to the seeding form they were given. Only game that really didnt play to seeding form was Pitt playing a 11 in 2nd round which helps.

ND and Duke only two teams not playing to seed placement.

The 8s/9s, 4's/5s games are tossups. Louisville as a 6 losin to a 3 is no shame, just like BC as a 7 losin to a 2 and GT as a 10 losin to a 7 is no shock.

Both conferences playing similiar as far as seed expectations.

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Notre Dame lost to one of the best 11 seeds (and should have been higher) pretty much ever. They also beat Maryland handily in the regular season.

Pitt beat the team that beat Duke.

Maryland lost to a lower seeded team in the second round (as did Virginia), Louisville lost to a higher seeded team.

Heck, BC got beat by G-Town.

Oh and the BE has 3 of the last remaining teams left in the NIT, so so much for that whole undeserving argument.

If the ACC were good enough to still be around, they would be.

can only play devil's advocate so much but you're right. so long as unc wins it all i'm happy though :)

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Spin spin spin. Are you in PR? The Big East has more teams currently in it than the Big Ten and the ACC. The Big Ten should be without any teams as Xavier got scrwed on that no intentional foul call. If the NCAA Selection committee didn't screw ND with a low seed, a bad location, and the best 11 seed in years then you might still see them in as well. Louisville almost beat A&M as well. Just admit you're wrong and move on.

You think ND deserved HIGHER than a 6 seed? and I notcie you didn't complain about Louisville getting to play in KENTUCKY for the 1st 2 rds.

Notre Dame lost to one of the best 11 seeds (and should have been higher) pretty much ever. They also beat Maryland handily in the regular season.

Pitt beat the team that beat Duke.

Maryland lost to a lower seeded team in the second round (as did Virginia), Louisville lost to a higher seeded team.

Heck, BC got beat by G-Town.

Oh and the BE has 3 of the last remaining teams left in the NIT, so so much for that whole undeserving argument.

If the ACC were good enough to still be around, they would be.

Now Winthrop is the best 11 seeed EVER? LSu made the FF in 1986- I think they were better. Oregon didn't seem to have much trouble w/ Winthrop in rd 2.

Pitt, the 2nd best team in the BE, needed OT to beat the team that beat that beat the 7th place tam in the ACC by 2 points.

MD and UVa were 4 seeeds that lost to 5 seeds, basically a pick 'em games not like a 6 vs. 11. Marquette got hammered in the 8-9 game.

BC was the 3rd or 4th best ACC team and they gave GU all they could handle. notcie how GU didn't crush them like they did the teams in the BET?

Who cares about the NIT? and SU, Depaul and WVU did NOT deserve to make the NCAAs no matter what they do in the NIT.

The ACC was best from top to bottom, the ACC was 5-2 in the 1st rd while the BE was 3-3.

and let's not forget there is still an excellent chance of 1 ACC team reaching the FF and none, as usual, from the BE.

The difference in the ACC and BE is the # of awful teams. The bottom half of the BE is terrible and guarantees wins.

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You think ND deserved HIGHER than a 6 seed? and I notcie you didn't complain about Louisville getting to play in KENTUCKY for the 1st 2 rds.

Now Winthrop is the best 11 seeed EVER? LSu made the FF in 1986- I think they were better. Oregon didn't seem to have much trouble w/ Winthrop in rd 2.

Pitt, the 2nd best team in the BE, needed OT to beat the team that beat that beat the 7th place tam in the ACC by 2 points.

MD and UVa were 4 seeeds that lost to 5 seeds, basically a pick 'em games not like a 6 vs. 11. Marquette got hammered in the 8-9 game.

BC was the 3rd or 4th best ACC team and they gave GU all they could handle. notcie how GU didn't crush them like they did the teams in the BET?

Who cares about the NIT? and SU, Depaul and WVU did NOT deserve to make the NCAAs no matter what they do in the NIT.

The ACC was best from top to bottom, the ACC was 5-2 in the 1st rd while the BE was 3-3.

and let's not forget there is still an excellent chance of 1 ACC team reaching the FF and none, as usual, from the BE.

The difference in the ACC and BE is the # of awful teams. The bottom half of the BE is terrible and guarantees wins.

If G'Town plays UNC, UNC will lose. Notre Dame did get hosed. Everyone has said it, anyone who disagrees is just a homer. Marquette was without it's leading scorer. G'Town didn't crush ND in the BET. Notre Dame the 4th best team in the BE beat the 3rd best team in the ACC handily. The ACC may be better but to not give the Big East it's props is ridiculous. In the end the ACC put 1 team into the SS and the Big East put 2. You lose.

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SEC > ACC ... Not only in Football.

The SEC has 2 FF teams since 1999 and 1 Champ while the ACC has 8 FF teams and 3 Champs but yeah the SEC is better:yawn:

If G'Town plays UNC, UNC will lose. Notre Dame did get hosed. Everyone has said it, anyone who disagrees is just a homer. Marquette was without it's leading scorer. G'Town didn't crush ND in the BET. Notre Dame the 4th best team in the BE beat the 3rd best team in the ACC handily. The ACC may be better but to not give the Big East it's props is ridiculous. In the end the ACC put 1 team into the SS and the Big East put 2. You lose.

ND deserved a 6, Lousiville might have been underseeded but they got to basically play at home. Dominic James was MU's leading scorer, they were w/o their 2nd leading scorer and they were w/o him when they beat PITTSBURGH so no excuses.

ND beat MD in December, alot changes in that span. Our 7th place team beat your FIRST place team handily in December.

There are mroe games to play so nobody loses yet. The BE was a decent conf this year but having so many bad teams in it helps the top teams pile up wins and get better seeds.

GU will NOT beat the heels, I can't wait to see that big stiff Hibbert try to run w/ the Heels.

actually asomf and i were talkin this mornoing about that,,

sec is #1 in RPI this year, ,RPI very good at looking at conference strenghth top to bottom..

http://teamrankings.com/ncb/8confratings.php3

That is through the current games, in the reg season the ACC was #1.

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SEC > ACC in 06-07, nobody cares about 99-06 nyjunc.

Carolina didn't have a problem w/ the SEC this year as they beat Kentucky and Tennessee and carolina is still a team to beat for the title so lt's hold off on the proclamations for now.

The ACC was the best conf top to bottom this year, conf's like the BE and SEC have alot of bad teams which the ACC does not. The SEC had basically 4 good teams- UF, UT, UK and Vandy and the Heels beat half of them and might get a shot at vandy if both win on Friday. The SEC MAY have the best team but it certainly was not the best conf and not better than the ACC top to bottom.

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Carolina didn't have a problem w/ the SEC this year as they beat Kentucky and Tennessee and carolina is still a team to beat for the title so lt's hold off on the proclamations for now.

The ACC was the best conf top to bottom this year, conf's like the BE and SEC have alot of bad teams which the ACC does not. The SEC had basically 4 good teams- UF, UT, UK and Vandy and the Heels beat half of them and might get a shot at vandy if both win on Friday. The SEC MAY have the best team but it certainly was not the best conf and not better than the ACC top to bottom.

Skippy- the ACC has a pile of average teams this year, only 1 quality team

SEC and Pac10 have more quality teams, after Holes every other ACC team is

average!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Skippy- the ACC has a pile of average teams this year, only 1 quality team

SEC and Pac10 have more quality teams, after Holes every other ACC team is

average!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The ACC has one big time team and a bucnh of GOOD teams. other conf's have more teams w/ FF potential but no conf has as many GOOD teams.

Quality teams(outside of the top teams in each conf):

ACC(8):

Maryland

Va tech

UVa

Clemson(w/ their win over Syracuse last nigth Clemson now is undefeated for the year in non-conf play)

FSU

NC State

Ga Tech

Duke

SEC(7):

Vandy

Tennessee

Kentucky

Miss St

Miss

Arkansas

Alabama

Pac 10(5):

Wash St

oregon

USC

Arizona

Stanford

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The ACC has one big time team and a bucnh of GOOD teams. other conf's have more teams w/ FF potential but no conf has as many GOOD teams.

Quality teams(outside of the top teams in each conf):

ACC(8):

Maryland

Va tech

UVa

Clemson(w/ their win over Syracuse last nigth Clemson now is undefeated for the year in non-conf play)

FSU

NC State

Ga Tech

Duke

SEC(7):

Vandy

Tennessee

Kentucky

Miss St

Miss

Arkansas

Alabama

Pac 10(5):

Wash St

oregon

USC

Arizona

Stanford

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Date Opponent / Event Location Time

10/31/06 vs. Exhibition Game Clemson, SC W, 99-50

Cox Communications Classic

11/10/06 vs. Arkansas State Norfolk, VA W, 83-44

11/11/06 vs. Monmouth N.J. Norfolk, VA W, 77-65

11/12/06 vs. Old Dominion Norfolk, VA W, 74-70

11/15/06 vs. Furman Clemson, SC W, 67-58

11/17/06 vs. Appalachian State Clemson, SC W, 79-49

11/21/06 vs. Mississippi State Clemson, SC W, 69-66

11/24/06 vs. Charleston Southern Clemson, SC W, 74-50

11/29/06 at Minnesota Minneapolis, MN W, 90-68

12/02/06 at South Carolina Columbia, SC W, 74-53

12/05/06 vs. Wofford Clemson, SC W, 90-66

12/19/06 vs. Georgia Southern Clemson, SC W, 72-60

12/23/06 vs. Western Carolina Clemson, SC W, 103-60

12/28/06 vs. Georgia Clemson, SC W, 75-60

12/31/06 vs. Georgia State Clemson, SC W, 67-57

01/03/07 at Florida State Tallahassee, FL W, 68-66

01/06/07 vs. Georgia Tech Clemson, SC W, 75-74

01/09/07 at North Carolina State Raleigh, NC W, 87-76

01/13/07 at Maryland College Park, MD L, 92-87

01/17/07 vs. North Carolina Clemson, SC L, 77-55

01/20/07 vs. Boston College Clemson, SC W, 74-54

01/25/07 at Duke Durham, NC L, 68-66

01/28/07 vs. Virginia Clemson, SC L, 64-63

02/03/07 at Georgia Tech Atlanta, GA L, 80-62

02/07/07 vs. Florida State Clemson, SC W, 71-58

02/14/07 at Wake Forest Winston-Salem, NC L, 67-65

02/18/07 vs. Maryland Clemson, SC L, 82-66

02/22/07 vs. Duke Clemson, SC L, 71-66

02/24/07 at Boston College Chestnut Hill, MA L, 59-54

02/28/07 vs. Miami Clemson, SC W, 74-70

03/04/07 at Virginia Tech Blacksburg, VA W, 75-74

ACC Tournament

03/08/07 vs. Florida State Tampa, FL L, 67-66

2007 MasterCard NIT

03/14/07 vs. East Tennessee Clemson, SC W, 64-57

03/19/07 vs. Mississippi Clemson, S.C. W, 89-68

03/21/07 vs. Syracuse Clemson, S.C. W, 74

Look who Clemson played out of Conf Hermie!! And the syracuse win was at home not at a neutral site. Keep on spinning

The ACC has no terrible teams but only has 1 good one. Pac10 and Big E have

more quality at top!!!!!!!!

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Date Opponent / Event Location Time

10/31/06 vs. Exhibition Game Clemson, SC W, 99-50

Cox Communications Classic

11/10/06 vs. Arkansas State Norfolk, VA W, 83-44

11/11/06 vs. Monmouth N.J. Norfolk, VA W, 77-65

11/12/06 vs. Old Dominion Norfolk, VA W, 74-70

11/15/06 vs. Furman Clemson, SC W, 67-58

11/17/06 vs. Appalachian State Clemson, SC W, 79-49

11/21/06 vs. Mississippi State Clemson, SC W, 69-66

11/24/06 vs. Charleston Southern Clemson, SC W, 74-50

11/29/06 at Minnesota Minneapolis, MN W, 90-68

12/02/06 at South Carolina Columbia, SC W, 74-53

12/05/06 vs. Wofford Clemson, SC W, 90-66

12/19/06 vs. Georgia Southern Clemson, SC W, 72-60

12/23/06 vs. Western Carolina Clemson, SC W, 103-60

12/28/06 vs. Georgia Clemson, SC W, 75-60

12/31/06 vs. Georgia State Clemson, SC W, 67-57

01/03/07 at Florida State Tallahassee, FL W, 68-66

01/06/07 vs. Georgia Tech Clemson, SC W, 75-74

01/09/07 at North Carolina State Raleigh, NC W, 87-76

01/13/07 at Maryland College Park, MD L, 92-87

01/17/07 vs. North Carolina Clemson, SC L, 77-55

01/20/07 vs. Boston College Clemson, SC W, 74-54

01/25/07 at Duke Durham, NC L, 68-66

01/28/07 vs. Virginia Clemson, SC L, 64-63

02/03/07 at Georgia Tech Atlanta, GA L, 80-62

02/07/07 vs. Florida State Clemson, SC W, 71-58

02/14/07 at Wake Forest Winston-Salem, NC L, 67-65

02/18/07 vs. Maryland Clemson, SC L, 82-66

02/22/07 vs. Duke Clemson, SC L, 71-66

02/24/07 at Boston College Chestnut Hill, MA L, 59-54

02/28/07 vs. Miami Clemson, SC W, 74-70

03/04/07 at Virginia Tech Blacksburg, VA W, 75-74

ACC Tournament

03/08/07 vs. Florida State Tampa, FL L, 67-66

2007 MasterCard NIT

03/14/07 vs. East Tennessee Clemson, SC W, 64-57

03/19/07 vs. Mississippi Clemson, S.C. W, 89-68

03/21/07 vs. Syracuse Clemson, S.C. W, 74

Look who Clemson played out of Conf Hermie!! And the syracuse win was at home not at a neutral site. Keep on spinning

The ACC has no terrible teams but only has 1 good one. Pac10 and Big E have

more quality at top!!!!!!!!

Where did I say the SU game was on a nuetral floor? Clemson didn't have a great non-conf schedukle but they beat beter teams in the non-conf than SU did. SU's best win was Holy Cross, Clemson beat Georgia, Mississippi, Miss State and now SU- all better W's than beating Holy Cross.

The ACC has plenty of GOOD teams but only one TOP team. The BE only has 1 team that can bea top tam and that's georgetown and Gu was horrible in the non-conf this year including a loss to duke.

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Where did I say the SU game was on a nuetral floor? Clemson didn't have a great non-conf schedukle but they beat beter teams in the non-conf than SU did. SU's best win was Holy Cross, Clemson beat Georgia, Mississippi, Miss State and now SU- all better W's than beating Holy Cross.

The ACC has plenty of GOOD teams but only one TOP team. The BE only has 1 team that can bea top tam and that's georgetown and Gu was horrible in the non-conf this year including a loss to duke.

You seemed to be bragging that Clemson is much better than cuse, if game played in cuse, cuse wins

ACC is down this year and you just can't admit it and i'm a duke fan and i know the truth!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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You seemed to be bragging that Clemson is much better than cuse, if game played in cuse, cuse wins

ACC is down this year and you just can't admit it and i'm a duke fan and i know the truth!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Clemson let SU back in the game late, Clemson was up double digits most of that game. Clemson was our 8th best team while SU as your 6th. the other night our 10th place team lost a squeaker at your 7th place team. The ACC was better than the BE this year- was it a classic great year for the ACC? No but top to bottom it was better than any other league.

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Clemson let SU back in the game late, Clemson was up double digits most of that game. Clemson was our 8th best team while SU as your 6th. the other night our 10th place team lost a squeaker at your 7th place team. The ACC was better than the BE this year- was it a classic great year for the ACC? No but top to bottom it was better than any other league.

so sez Hermie, that is why there is only 1 ACC team left in sweet 16. Great year for the ACC, a pile of crappy teams after holes, that is why there are no

real terrible teams at bottom, ACC is like NFC east

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so sez Hermie, that is why there is only 1 ACC team left in sweet 16. Great year for the ACC, a pile of crappy teams after holes, that is why there are no

real terrible teams at bottom, ACC is like NFC east

This is the first year since 1979 that the ACC dooesn't have at least 2 teams in the Sweet 16. if UNC doesn't make the FF it will be the first time since 1979 & 1980 that 2 years went by w/o an ACC team in the FF. Amazing stuff. We didn't have as many top teams this year as usual BUT we had the deepest conf in the Country.

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This is the first year since 1979 that the ACC dooesn't have at least 2 teams in the Sweet 16. if UNC doesn't make the FF it will be the first time since 1979 & 1980 that 2 years went by w/o an ACC team in the FF. Amazing stuff. We didn't have as many top teams this year as usual BUT we had the deepest conf in the Country.

the spin continues!!!!!!!!!!!

Hermie is a great coach and ACC was best conf this year! got it;)

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Who cares about the NIT?

Clemson let SU back in the game late, Clemson was up double digits most of that game. Clemson was our 8th best team while SU as your 6th. the other night our 10th place team lost a squeaker at your 7th place team. The ACC was better than the BE this year- was it a classic great year for the ACC? No but top to bottom it was better than any other league.

Apparently, you do, but only if it suits your argument.

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