When and if does Clemens make Hall of Fame?

[SouthernJet]

When does he make it? Does he make it?

[Kidhuman]

I dont think they will give him the first year ballot. I think the 2nd year. If this turns out he did do it, it may be never,

[Zeebers]

I think if he came out early and just admitted he did it to compete with all the other cheaters out there, he would have been good. But after the way he's been denying denying denying, I don't think the writers are going to treat him so kindly.

[Kidhuman]

I think if he came out early and just admitted he did it to compete with all the other cheaters out there, he would have been good. But after the way he's been denying denying denying, I don't think the writers are going to treat him so kindly.

What if you are wrong and he didnt do it?

[joewilly]

What if you are wrong and he didnt do it?

then there shall be ice skating in hell

[Bob]

If Roger Clemens is not a first-ballot hall of famer, the BBWA should be stripped of the power to make those choices. The same goes for Barry Bonds, much as I hate him.

[Lurker]

anything earlier than 'never' is too soon.

[Boozer76]

If Roger Clemens is not a first-ballot hall of famer, the BBWA should be stripped of the power to make those choices. The same goes for Barry Bonds, much as I hate him.

In that case I guess you are beside yourself that Mark McGwire didn't get in.

The bottom line is if Clemens, Bonds, and any other player used illegal PED's, they should immediately be stripped of their eligibility to the HOF.

[Bob]

McGwire should be in. I'm not "beside myself" because I don't get my shorts in a knot nearly as easy as you do.

[Lurker]

I'd put in McGwire before I'd put in Clemens.

[Kidhuman]

I'd put in McGwire before I'd put in Clemens.

Of course, McGwire retired before Clemens. Clemens has 5 years to wait, McGwire should go in now.

[tparich]

In that case I guess you are beside yourself that Mark McGwire didn't get in.

The bottom line is if Clemens, Bonds, and any other player used illegal PED's, they should immediately be stripped of their eligibility to the HOF.

I agree with what your saying but the only grey area is when there is no proof and it's just someones word against theirs.

[NOExcusesNYJ]

no way he makes it unless there are a lot of people out there like peter gammons who considers him one of many

[PeterNorth09]

I don't want Clemens in the Hall of Fame. If he makes it, all the Bonds and McGwire apologists will be screaming bloody murder.

[GimmeShelter]

I don't want Clemens in the Hall of Fame. If he makes it, all the Bonds and McGwire apologists will be screaming bloody murder.

The writers will all have their faves just as certain members of Congress did today.

I think they all should go in as we know there will be other cheats who get in and simply were not caught. History will recall that they were accussed of cheating no matter what so let them in. This will be known as the steroid era anyway with all achievements out of the norm viewed with a raised eyebrow.

Roger as a person came off much worse today than Roger the cheater. There was no-one he didn't throw under the bus in his child like defense of the accussations.

Curious to see as Mad Dog stated if Andy simply walks away from the game. Probably not as the 16 mill he is owed this season covers his legal cost in all this mess.

[TaborJet]

Whether or not Clemens is guilty of taking steroids or HGH, he was a Hall of Fame pitcher BEFORE the steriods era came to be in the late 90's. Same goes for Bonds.

[Thai Jet]

If it turns out he DID take steroids or HGH then no he does NOT deserve to ever make the HOF. Chances are if he perjured himself he will be spending time as a guest of the federal government so that should seal his fate right there.