faba Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 Tue Jun 10, 12:30 AM ET RICHMOND, Va. - A prosecutor says the state trials of Michael Vick and three co-defendants on dogfighting charges will be delayed until they are freed from federal prison. Commonwealth's Attorney Gerald Poindexter says it's not worth the expense for Surry County to get the men from prisons in different states for trial and escort them back later. Vick and the other defendants face charges of beating or killing dogs, or causing dogs to fight other dogs, and engaging in or promoting dogfighting. The former Atlanta Falcons quarterback is serving a 23-month prison sentence after pleading guilty to federal charges in a dogfighting operation. The others received sentences of up to 21 months in prison. One defendant, Tony Taylor, has already been released. His state trial is scheduled for July 26. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 Tue Jun 10, 12:30 AM ET RICHMOND, Va. - A prosecutor says the state trials of Michael Vick and three co-defendants on dogfighting charges will be delayed until they are freed from federal prison. Commonwealth's Attorney Gerald Poindexter says it's not worth the expense for Surry County to get the men from prisons in different states for trial and escort them back later. Vick and the other defendants face charges of beating or killing dogs, or causing dogs to fight other dogs, and engaging in or promoting dogfighting. The former Atlanta Falcons quarterback is serving a 23-month prison sentence after pleading guilty to federal charges in a dogfighting operation. The others received sentences of up to 21 months in prison. One defendant, Tony Taylor, has already been released. His state trial is scheduled for July 26. this is double jeopardy IMO!!! next the county will process charges our legal system is dumb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rillo Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 Wow, they really wanna make an example out of him. I also agree this is dumb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 this is double jeopardy IMO!!! next the county will process charges our legal system is dumb Not that I don't agree with you, but the precedent has already been set that it's not double jeopardy. IMO when that precedent was set it was another tough case making bad law, but that cat is out of the bag. The question is can't his attorney raise a racket about the right to a speedy trial? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 Not that I don't agree with you, but the precedent has already been set that it's not double jeopardy. IMO when that precedent was set it was another tough case making bad law, but that cat is out of the bag. The question is can't his attorney raise a racket about the right to a speedy trial? he has been tried and found guilty, if the state wants to file a civil suit that is fine. but to try him again is downright dumb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 he has been tried and found guilty, if the state wants to file a civil suit that is fine. but to try him again is downright dumb. It may be dumb, but it's been done before and the court system is apparently okay with it. It was done on one of the police brutality cases. The police walked and then were tried by the feds for "violating the civil liberties" of the guy. I'm not saying I don't think it's double jeopardy, I'm saying the court system doesn't. IMO there is no way they can drag their feet that long unless Vick's attorneys let them because they can't just let the case sit. From everything I've read I think that DA is a jerkoff and he is probably just trying to excuse why his case isn't off the ground while Vick is already doing time. Maybe it's election time and he is claiming all the money he has saved taxpayers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetfuel Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 Tue Jun 10, 12:30 AM ET RICHMOND, Va. - A prosecutor says the state trials of Michael Vick and three co-defendants on dogfighting charges will be delayed until they are freed from federal prison. Commonwealth's Attorney Gerald Poindexter says it's not worth the expense for Surry County to get the men from prisons in different states for trial and escort them back later. Vick and the other defendants face charges of beating or killing dogs, or causing dogs to fight other dogs, and engaging in or promoting dogfighting. The former Atlanta Falcons quarterback is serving a 23-month prison sentence after pleading guilty to federal charges in a dogfighting operation. The others received sentences of up to 21 months in prison. One defendant, Tony Taylor, has already been released. His state trial is scheduled for July 26. Vick should be set free, thrown in a ten foot deep pit with a half dozen hungry, fight-bred pitbulls, and then we can be done with this piece of sh&% for good! Seriously, I hope he gets shanked in the lung or kidney out in the prison yard and is left to bleed out. The world would be better off without him and people like him. p.s. It will also save some tax money that the State officials can use on "conventions" and hookers and it will leave the media with more time to dedicate to other celebrity idiocy and nonsense. It's a win-win situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boozer76 Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 he has been tried and found guilty, if the state wants to file a civil suit that is fine. but to try him again is downright dumb. He's been tried and found guilty of illegal gambling across state lines, which is why the Feds prosecuted him. The feds don't give 2 craps about animals. The state will not be able to go after him for those charges. The state will go after him for multiple counts of animal cruelty, which likely won't carry a jail term, just a very hefty fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khesanh Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 He's been tried and found guilty of illegal gambling across state lines, which is why the Feds prosecuted him. The feds don't give 2 craps about animals. The state will not be able to go after him for those charges. The state will go after him for multiple counts of animal cruelty, which likely won't carry a jail term, just a very hefty fine. I think he would have faired better is he killed somebody ask leonard little Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boozer76 Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 I think he would have faired better is he killed somebody ask leonard little Agreed, but not in the sense that Vick should have had less punishment, Little should still be in jail today. Especially when you consider he was arrested for another DUI after having already killed a woman driving drunk once before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaumerJet Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 He's been tried and found guilty of illegal gambling across state lines, which is why the Feds prosecuted him. The feds don't give 2 craps about animals. The state will not be able to go after him for those charges. The state will go after him for multiple counts of animal cruelty, which likely won't carry a jail term, just a very hefty fine. Actually Boozer, in Virginia the crime of raizing dogs for fighting has a minimum sentance of 5 years with a maximum of 25... I think his career is over... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boozer76 Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 Actually Boozer, in Virginia the crime of raizing dogs for fighting has a minimum sentance of 5 years with a maximum of 25... I think his career is over... Fair enough and good info Baumer. That being said, I highly doubt that they can make the sentence run consecutively simply because they don't want to pay to have Vick travel back and forth from jail for his trial. So they will try him once he's out of jail, but time served will definitely count towards that sentence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetfuel Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 Fair enough and good info Baumer. That being said, I highly doubt that they can make the sentence run consecutively simply because they don't want to pay to have Vick travel back and forth from jail for his trial. So they will try him once he's out of jail, but time served will definitely count towards that sentence. They can't use the time served thing in his case. Federal and State sentences are seperate. These are also different charges and crimes he will be tried with. That said I hope he gets the maximum (as well as anyone else that engages in those type of activities). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boozer76 Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 They can't use the time served thing in his case. Federal and State sentences are seperate. These are also different charges and crimes he will be tried with. That said I hope he gets the maximum (as well as anyone else that engages in those type of activities). While I agree with you on premise, they also can't delay his trial simply because they don't want to pay to have him travel from prison to court (which they are obliged to do in order to have his case heard immediately). Instead they are choosing to wait until he gets out of jail. A man has the right to an expedient trial, the gov't can't deny that to him regardless of circumstance. So they will have to make some kind of concession to him for not giving him an expedient trial so they can save the travel expense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 While I agree with you on premise, they also can't delay his trial simply because they don't want to pay to have him travel from prison to court (which they are obliged to do in order to have his case heard immediately). Instead they are choosing to wait until he gets out of jail. A man has the right to an expedient trial, the gov't can't deny that to him regardless of circumstance. So they will have to make some kind of concession to him for not giving him an expedient trial so they can save the travel expense. Your correct, but Vick's attorney would have to file a motion. It is probably in Vick's best interest to let all the politically correct crazies lose interest, which they always do. Who knows, in the next 2 years some politically correct issue may arise that works in Vick's favor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetfuel Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 Your correct, but Vick's attorney would have to file a motion. It is probably in Vick's best interest to let all the politically correct crazies lose interest, which they always do. Who knows, in the next 2 years some politically correct issue may arise that works in Vick's favor. Politically correct crazies? I am far from politically correct and I think Vick should get the full 25 years as should anyone who engages torture and murder of innocent living creatures for the sake of profit. It has nothing to do with politics and everything to do with life and decency. Vick is scum! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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