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Interesting tidbit on Chamberlain and Jordan


Matt39

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here is what Bill Waltons said in an interview

(the link is http://www.sportingnews.com/experts...l/20050414.html)

TSN: When you were named one of the NBA's 50 greatest players in 1997, they introduced the players at the All-Star Game in Cleveland. What do you remember about that experience?

WALTON: At the end of this four-day celebration, all the guys were alone in this big room. No media, no personal managers, not even David Stern. Everyone was in the happiest mood ever. Even Bill Russell was signing autographs. I remember looking over in a corner, and Wilt (Chamberlain) and Michael (Jordan) were arguing loudly over who was the greatest of all time. Finally, Wilt got up, looked down at Michael and said, "When you played, they changed the rules to make it easier for you. When I played, they changed the rules to make it harder for me." That was the end of the conversation.

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Wilt was 100% correct about that. The league did try to make things hard for him, as he was too dominant.

Jordan was great, no doubt about that. But he got away with traveling evrytime he drove the lane. Everytime. He took a 3rd step before jumping. Never got called after his rookie season.

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When Wilt played he was dunking over the equivalent of what would now be an Ivy League 6'7" power forward who doesn't get a sniff of the NBA. Even Bill Russell was only 6'9" (if that). Michael had to play against athletes who could match him in terms of size and speed.

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When Wilt played he was dunking over the equivalent of what would now be an Ivy League 6'7" power forward who doesn't get a sniff of the NBA. Even Bill Russell was only 6'9" (if that). Michael had to play against athletes who could match him in terms of size and speed.

That does not change the argument that Wilt had to contend with rules changes designed to negate him, while the NBA went out of their way to accomodate Jordan.

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So was WIlt. Even the year he averaged 50 a game, and everyone knew he was getting the ball all the time, and the triple teaming of him didn't stop him.

A-ha! But Jordan was doing it against players of similar size and athleticism. Wilt was not. It's the same argument against Jim Brown. Would he have been as successful today versus Ray Lewis instead of then having 165 lb. white dudes who never saw the inside of a gym trying to arm tackle him?

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A-ha! But Jordan was doing it against players of similar size and athleticism. Wilt was not. It's the same argument against Jim Brown. Would he have been as successful today versus Ray Lewis instead of then having 165 lb. white dudes who never saw the inside of a gym trying to arm tackle him?

It is a question we will never have an answer to.

However, look at Jabbar. Kareem was taller then most guys he played against, but far from the strongest. Yet, he dominated his position for years.

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  • 3 weeks later...

Jordan was Kobe Bryant with three more rings.

You couldnt be more wrong. Scoring wise, Kobe could probably do all the things JOrdan could, but Kobe will never be mentioned in the same breath as Jordan because he is nowhere near the complete player Jordan was. Jordan was a court general, he didnt only have to score to help his team win. He made his teammates around him better. Kobe's teammates want to get the heck off his team because he is a ball hog.

And lets not even talk about defense. Jordan was one of the all time great defenders at his position. Kobe just gets by.

Kobe had one of the all time great big man on his team to help him in 3 rings. Jordan won 3 more rings with an old bill cartwright and a stiff in luc longley.

There is really no comparison between the two.

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