Integrity28 Posted April 29, 2010 Share Posted April 29, 2010 If AVM truly is Luke, then that leaves Han Solo as the best candidate for the Cop, and our Cop is confirmed as Brett. Now Vic is insinuating there is a tie between his character and Crusher's, who we have to guess is Chewie right now. This would also be Han Solo. I think Crusher's role is in the game IN PLACE of a Vig. I just find it hard to believe that we are this far in and Vicious didn't want to fire on one of the handful of guys he has been suspicious of. ESPECIALLY if you consider how much Vic was following CTM's lead... CTM on multiple occasions directed the Vig to take a shot at Crusher earlier in the game. Shocked that Vic didn't follow his lead. AVM's reveal seems contrived also... rock/hard place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVM Posted April 29, 2010 Share Posted April 29, 2010 I am still suspect of Vic, but if we lynch him and hes vig, he needs to shoot Jif. After that I think we can solve the rest of the puzzle. I say we lynch Vic now. If we lynch Vic now, and he's telling the truth -- he wont be able to get a shot off. A vig only has a night action kill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted April 29, 2010 Share Posted April 29, 2010 I can only assume you are insinuating that you 2 are Han and Chewie. Except Crusher said he was NOT bulletproof, he didn't say he had a vest... Crush can you clarify your claim please. Like I said. I have no vest and I have no gun. I dont shoot. I just lose it when Im lynch and pick someone to shred like husking an ear of corn. Or Bleedin will pick for me. At night due to my robustness it takes more than a shot to kill me. More of a dosage thing than a protective thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted April 29, 2010 Share Posted April 29, 2010 Vic, mind the fact what Crusher is claiming and factor in what his character sounds to be. So Hess when we going to Vegas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vicious89x Posted April 29, 2010 Share Posted April 29, 2010 Ok, I apologize sorry -- I was trying to be funny, and it obviously didn't work. So, it seemed far fetched for BG to have said I can't use my knowledge of Dan at all, all while you knew that your 1 shot-vig role was different from usual. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but from games past I've seen where a Vig shot someone, that kill went through and he was NK'd all in the same night. In fact, I know for a fact I've seen a mod (or someone who usually mods) explain it that way in a game thread before. Avm. You are right, but as you know I can't say word for word what was written. Paraphrasing would be.. My shot may not fire. In thinking about it now means to me that it's probably the rb'r. That would make sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted April 29, 2010 Share Posted April 29, 2010 I bet you you can drive the **** out of a car in a driveway Just making sure. Part of me still think AVM is scum. Why if you're town with SK and 1 scum down on DAY 2 and you know Vader do you keep it to yourself? AVM, don't bother I know I know...still doesn't gel with me. If all town is saying Vic than I'll proceed I guess. They have to be on opposite sides imo. Unless they've run the supreme gambit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted April 29, 2010 Share Posted April 29, 2010 I am still suspect of Vic, but if we lynch him and hes vig, he needs to shoot Jif. After that I think we can solve the rest of the puzzle. I say we lynch Vic now. He can't shoot anyone if lynched. It makes more sense to lynch AVM who at least we are sure is powerless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vicious89x Posted April 29, 2010 Share Posted April 29, 2010 If AVM truly is Luke, then that leaves Han Solo as the best candidate for the Cop, and our Cop is confirmed as Brett. Now Vic is insinuating there is a tie between his character and Crusher's, who we have to guess is Chewie right now. This would also be Han Solo. I think Crusher's role is in the game IN PLACE of a Vig. I just find it hard to believe that we are this far in and Vicious didn't want to fire on one of the handful of guys he has been suspicious of. ESPECIALLY if you consider how much Vic was following CTM's lead... CTM on multiple occasions directed the Vig to take a shot at Crusher earlier in the game. Shocked that Vic didn't follow his lead. AVM's reveal seems contrived also... rock/hard place. I was following his lead nut I believed in crushers reveal. Mainly because if I know who am I figured it'd make sense that someone else had a bullet to shoot also. I've never been a vig before. I think it's the biggest high risk/high reward role. Imagine if I shot at crusher or kleck and they might be innocent. We are talking end game here or closer to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StraightCash Posted April 29, 2010 Share Posted April 29, 2010 If we lynch Vic now, and he's telling the truth -- he wont be able to get a shot off. A vig only has a night action kill. Ok here is the scenario in my mind Confirmed innocents 1. Me 2. I28 Semi-Confirmed (with reasons) 3. Kleck (reasoned so in an earlier post) 4. AVM* (I believe your reveal after BG's death scene was editted) 5. Hess (was way too oblivious in the beginning. Didn't know scums talked externally, etc) That leaves us 6. Vic 7. Jif 8. Crusher (I know you've revealed, but your innocence is still in question, sorry) I think we take these steps. 1. Lynch Vic 2. Lynch Jif *3. If we still haven't won, lynch Crush who kills AVM (If Crusher is innocent). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVM Posted April 29, 2010 Share Posted April 29, 2010 Ok here is the scenario in my mind Confirmed innocents 1. Me 2. I28 Semi-Confirmed (with reasons) 3. Kleck (reasoned so in an earlier post) 4. AVM* (I believe your reveal after BG's death scene was editted) 5. Hess (was way too oblivious in the beginning. Didn't know scums talked externally, etc) That leaves us 6. Vic 7. Jif 8. Crusher (I know you've revealed, but your innocence is still in question, sorry) I think we take these steps. 1. Lynch Vic 2. Lynch Jif *3. If we still haven't one, lynch Crush who kills AVM if innocent. Question -- why would you have Crush lynch me if innocent? I'm not really tied in with him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StraightCash Posted April 29, 2010 Share Posted April 29, 2010 Question -- why would you have Crush lynch me if innocent? I'm not really tied in with him Because then I think you would be the final scum because you were converted by Dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vicious89x Posted April 29, 2010 Share Posted April 29, 2010 If AVM truly is Luke, then that leaves Han Solo as the best candidate for the Cop, and our Cop is confirmed as Brett. Now Vic is insinuating there is a tie between his character and Crusher's, who we have to guess is Chewie right now. This would also be Han Solo. I think Crusher's role is in the game IN PLACE of a Vig. I just find it hard to believe that we are this far in and Vicious didn't want to fire on one of the handful of guys he has been suspicious of. ESPECIALLY if you consider how much Vic was following CTM's lead... CTM on multiple occasions directed the Vig to take a shot at Crusher earlier in the game. Shocked that Vic didn't follow his lead. AVM's reveal seems contrived also... rock/hard place. What did you edit?? Ok here is the scenario in my mind Confirmed innocents 1. Me 2. I28 Semi-Confirmed (with reasons) 3. Kleck (reasoned so in an earlier post) 4. AVM* (I believe your reveal after BG's death scene was editted) 5. Hess (was way too oblivious in the beginning. Didn't know scums talked externally, etc) That leaves us 6. Vic 7. Jif 8. Crusher (I know you've revealed, but your innocence is still in question, sorry) I think we take these steps. 1. Lynch Vic 2. Lynch Jif *3. If we still haven't won, lynch Crush who kills AVM (If Crusher is innocent). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVM Posted April 29, 2010 Share Posted April 29, 2010 Question -- why would you have Crush lynch me if innocent? I'm not really tied in with him Oh I see you're saying do it in that order. Gotcha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted April 29, 2010 Share Posted April 29, 2010 I just don't see the vig keeping it holstered this long. I also don't buy AVM's reveal completely. I also agree with Integrity that Han is the most likely cop so that makes Vic's claim of a connection between him and Crusher seem like BS as I've been leaning toward my vertically challenged rotund friend being Chewy. I'm leaning toward Vic right now but I don't want to pull the trigger on a vote just yet. I would love for JiF to pop in and freakin' add something, anything to the proceedings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StraightCash Posted April 29, 2010 Share Posted April 29, 2010 What did you edit?? On the last line I had typed one instead of won... oops Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vicious89x Posted April 29, 2010 Share Posted April 29, 2010 I just don't see the vig keeping it holstered this long. I also don't buy AVM's reveal completely. I also agree with Integrity that Han is the most likely cop so that makes Vic's claim of a connection between him and Crusher seem like BS as I've been leaning toward my vertically challenged rotund friend being Chewy. I'm leaning toward Vic right now but I don't want to pull the trigger on a vote just yet. I would love for JiF to pop in and freakin' add something, anything to the proceedings. Kleck. I've been on you all game. If I decided to shoot you what's this game numbers look like? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVM Posted April 29, 2010 Share Posted April 29, 2010 Because then I think you would be the final scum because you were converted by Dan Yeah I follow your logic now. What did you edit?? He changed "if we havent one yet" to "if we havent won yet." I quoted him off his original, you can see the difference. I noticed the change and checked it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted April 29, 2010 Share Posted April 29, 2010 Ok here is the scenario in my mind Confirmed innocents 1. Me 2. I28 Semi-Confirmed (with reasons) 3. Kleck (reasoned so in an earlier post) 4. AVM* (I believe your reveal after BG's death scene was editted) 5. Hess (was way too oblivious in the beginning. Didn't know scums talked externally, etc) That leaves us 6. Vic 7. Jif 8. Crusher (I know you've revealed, but your innocence is still in question, sorry) I think we take these steps. 1. Lynch Vic 2. Lynch Jif *3. If we still haven't won, lynch Crush who kills AVM (If Crusher is innocent). I don't think we want to lynch JiF. It's between Vic or AVM as far as I'm concerned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted April 29, 2010 Share Posted April 29, 2010 On the last line I had typed one instead of won... oops I saw it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StraightCash Posted April 29, 2010 Share Posted April 29, 2010 I saw it. Well I guess that cat is out of the bag! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vicious89x Posted April 29, 2010 Share Posted April 29, 2010 On the last line I had typed one instead of won... oops Ah ok. I saw avms response. By the I saw you're post I missed th OP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted April 29, 2010 Share Posted April 29, 2010 We lynch AVM and he's -scum. We have vig, doc and cop with one to go -town. He is at least powerless and go after Vic still having 4 town vs 1 into night We lynch Vic and he's -scum. We still have vig (if in game) doc and cop -town- we loose our vig VOTE AVM I don't buy his story and even if I did he played it horribly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vicious89x Posted April 29, 2010 Share Posted April 29, 2010 Guys. I'm outed so you might as well tell me who to shoot at tonight. I might get rb but that leaves Brett free to investigate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted April 29, 2010 Share Posted April 29, 2010 I just don't see the vig keeping it holstered this long. I also don't buy AVM's reveal completely. I also agree with Integrity that Han is the most likely cop so that makes Vic's claim of a connection between him and Crusher seem like BS as I've been leaning toward my vertically challenged rotund friend being Chewy. I'm leaning toward Vic right now but I don't want to pull the trigger on a vote just yet. I would love for JiF to pop in and freakin' add something, anything to the proceedings. Vic, what are your thoughts on Klecks assumption in bold? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StraightCash Posted April 29, 2010 Share Posted April 29, 2010 Guys. I'm outed so you might as well tell me who to shoot at tonight. I might get rb but that leaves Brett free to investigate. I say Jif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVM Posted April 29, 2010 Share Posted April 29, 2010 I say Jif And what if JiF is doc and doesn't get a chance to claim? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StraightCash Posted April 29, 2010 Share Posted April 29, 2010 We lynch AVM and he's -scum. We have vig, doc and cop with one to go -town. He is at least powerless and go after Vic still having 4 town vs 1 into night We lynch Vic and he's -scum. We still have vig (if in game) doc and cop -town- we loose our vig VOTE AVM I don't buy his story and even if I did he played it horribly. Whats not to believe? Bleedin even said that Vader was looking for his son. AVM was telling the truth about it. The only thing it means is that he could be scum if Dan found him.. but the story is true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vicious89x Posted April 29, 2010 Share Posted April 29, 2010 Vic, what are your thoughts on Klecks assumption in bold? Iam saying I bought crushers claim based on the knowledge of who i am. We are not connected like ctm and sharrow obviously. My opinion is that this game was meant to be much faster. Hence an sk, two vig's. Although crush says he's not a vig, he can still take a shot outside of lynch and . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StraightCash Posted April 29, 2010 Share Posted April 29, 2010 And what if JiF is doc and doesn't get a chance to claim? Doc is useless to us if he claims anyways. If doc claims, he gets role blocked and I die.. no investigations. Then hell get role blocked and die. Not alot Doc can do anymore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVM Posted April 29, 2010 Share Posted April 29, 2010 Doc is useless to us if he claims anyways. If doc claims, he gets role blocked and I die.. no investigations. Then hell get role blocked and die. Not alot Doc can do anymore *I'm gonna be honest, I set that one up* So...what you're saying is my point on mass revealing was...correct? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted April 29, 2010 Share Posted April 29, 2010 Doc is useless to us if he claims anyways. If doc claims, he gets role blocked and I die.. no investigations. Then hell get role blocked and die. Not alot Doc can do anymore Yes there is. If Vic is really the Vig, the doc can protect you while the mafia role block Vic, so you can find a scumbag for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StraightCash Posted April 29, 2010 Share Posted April 29, 2010 Yes there is. If Vic is really the Vig, the doc can protect you while the mafia role block Vic, so you can find a scumbag for us. Who says they role block Vic.. he is just as likely to shoot a town right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted April 29, 2010 Share Posted April 29, 2010 Doc is useless to us if he claims anyways. If doc claims, he gets role blocked and I die.. no investigations. Then hell get role blocked and die. Not alot Doc can do anymore I still think we stay on AVM vs Vic. I'm really not sure who to believe. I can seriously vote either way at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StraightCash Posted April 29, 2010 Share Posted April 29, 2010 And what if JiF is doc and doesn't get a chance to claim? And also.. I have a good idea of who the Doc is and its not Jif. Could be wrong though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted April 29, 2010 Share Posted April 29, 2010 Who says they role block Vic.. he is just as likely to shoot a town right now. It sounds you want to vote Vic. Whats the count anyway. If you and integ both think Vic than I'm willing to change my vote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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