Jet27 Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 Teblow doesnt care if we put him down. Complaining someone sucks doesnt mean you stop rooting for a team or enjoy when a sh*tty player actually does something good. I know exactly where you guys are coming from trust me I know 100%..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet27 Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 I fully support Tebow in the wildcat and protecting the Jets' punter, but definitely not as a starting QB. I guess what he did in Denver last year was all a mirage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nj meadowlands Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 The essence of this thread is completely accurate. But all of the HILARIOUSLY cynical self-felating "realist" Jet fans will make their dumbass used up jokes and continue to ignore the fact that Mark Sanchez, crappy as he is, is 10x the NFL quarterback that Tim Tebow is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 I guess what he did in Denver last year was all a mirage. Yes, it was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil Bit Special Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 The essence of this thread is completely accurate. But all of the HILARIOUSLY cynical self-felating "realist" Jet fans will make their dumbass used up jokes and continue to ignore the fact that Mark Sanchez, crappy as he is, is 10x the NFL quarterback that Tim Tebow is. If i could self fellate myself I would never have time to post on JN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet27 Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 Yes, it was. Keep saying that enough times it may come true....come on dude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 Keep saying that enough times it may come true....come on dude. If anyone in the NFL thought that Tebowmania wasn't smoke & mirrors, he'd be a starting QB somewhere right now. Instead, he's doing the punt protection work for the Jets in between stints of putting up a passer rating of 26.5. He's years away from being an NFL QB, and that's if someone is willing to put that kind of investment in him. With all the injuries the Jets have at TE, they might think about using him there. He's got the build for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet27 Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 If anyone in the NFL thought that Tebowmania wasn't smoke & mirrors, he'd be a starting QB somewhere right now. Instead, he's doing the punt protection work for the Jets in between stints of putting up a passer rating of 26.5. He's years away from being an NFL QB, and that's if someone is willing to put that kind of investment in him. With all the injuries the Jets have at TE, they might think about using him there. He's got the build for it. Let's see what your story is when we win 1 game because of him. Give the kid a chance that's all I am saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 Let's see what your story is when we win 1 game because of him. Give the kid a chance that's all I am saying. I already said I'm all for him running the wildcat. He's just not a QB. That story isn't changing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet27 Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 I already said I'm all for him running the wildcat. He's just not a QB. That story isn't changing. We are saying the same thing...but the one thing I do believe is that he is serviceable to become a real NFL QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 Let's see what your story is when we win 1 game because of him. Give the kid a chance that's all I am saying. You sound like a guy I work with. "You'll see!" You know what I see? I see a guy who can't play QB full time in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet27 Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 You sound like a guy I work with. "You'll see!" You know what I see? I see a guy who can't play QB full time in the NFL. Same can be said for a few QB's in the league no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 Just wait for the jump pass... You mean this jump pass: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 You mean this jump pass: No. Thats just a regular old pass, which he cant do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 Let's see what your story is when we win 1 game because of him. Give the kid a chance that's all I am saying. What do you mean by "win." "Win" as in suck the entire game, but the defense keeps it low scoring, and then because of a short week, the high altitude, and tired defense, Tebow has a game winning TD in the final minutes? Or "win" as in playing in high altitude again, the opposing QB has a broken ankle, and the opposing DC has an utter brain fart and calls nothing but Zero Safety when the only way Tebow can hurt a team with his arm is with no coverage deep? If those factors repeat themselves again, I think you may be onto something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 No. Thats just a regular old pass, which he cant do. Well, look again, because Tebow is jumping in this one too. Or do you consider that a hop pass? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 Well, look again, because Tebow is jumping in this one too. Or do you consider that a hop pass? Thats like more a crow hop - I'm talking about the "real" jump pass. You're gunna love it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet27 Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 What do you mean by "win." "Win" as in suck the entire game, but the defense keeps it low scoring, and then because of a short week, the high altitude, and tired defense, Tebow has a game winning TD in the final minutes? Or "win" as in playing in high altitude again, the opposing QB has a broken ankle, and the opposing DC has an utter brain fart and calls nothing but Zero Safety when the only way Tebow can hurt a team with his arm is with no coverage deep? If those factors repeat themselves again, I think you may be onto something. Nice, let me spell it out a bit...win like we didn't do last year against the Raiders, Giants and Broncos....how is that for your. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 Same can be said for a few QB's in the league no? And I wouldn't want them playing for my team either. Your point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nj meadowlands Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 We are saying the same thing...but the one thing I do believe is that he is serviceable to become a real NFL QB. Do they have taxes in this Fantasy Land you live in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet27 Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 And I wouldn't want them playing for my team either. Your point? So who do you want to have as QB? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet27 Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 Do they have taxes in this Fantasy Land you live in? I say give the kid a chance and I live in Fantasy land.......so who do you want to QB our team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 So who do you want to have as QB? If the choice is Sanchez or Tebow, I'm taking Sanchez. If the choice is Tebow or pretty much anyone else I'll take pretty much anyone else. The kid lacks the necessary skills to play the position and be successful at this level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet27 Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 If the choice is Sanchez or Tebow, I'm taking Sanchez. If the choice is Tebow or pretty much anyone else I'll take pretty much anyone else. The kid lacks the necessary skills to play the position and be successful at this level. Ok...I have said Sanchez has to be our starter. But needs to cut down his mistakles by 50% for us to be successful this year. All I said about Tebow is we need him to compliment Sanchez some how some way. And if that is done and he helps us win then what is the problem with that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 Ok...I have said Sanchez has to be our starter. But needs to cut down his mistakles by 50% for us to be successful this year. All I said about Tebow is we need him to compliment Sanchez some how some way. And if that is done and he helps us win then what is the problem with that? There is no problem with that. I just don't see it as a necessity. If Sanchez cuts down on his mistakes by 50% there will literally be no need for Tebow whatsoever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 There is no problem with that. I just don't see it as a necessity. If Sanchez cuts down on his mistakes by 50% there will literally be no need for Tebow whatsoever. punt protector, wildcat, short yardage back, locker room prayer leader, other stuff. h8r Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet27 Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 There is no problem with that. I just don't see it as a necessity. If Sanchez cuts down on his mistakes by 50% there will literally be no need for Tebow whatsoever. That's the issue, I still don't think that sanchez alone will be the answer. Maybe I am wrong but I was just coming from the angle that Tebow can help, instead of looking at it as just a negative, because he is on the team and that being said I would hope Sparano would see an opportunity to intergrate him correctly..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 That's the issue, I still don't think that sanchez alone will be the answer. Maybe I am wrong but I was just coming from the angle that Tebow can help, instead of looking at it as just a negative, because he is on the team and that being said I would hope Sparano would see an opportunity to intergrate him correctly..... Dude, it's not like I would be unhappy if Tebow positively contributed to the team. I just doubt it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet27 Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 Dude, it's not like I would be unhappy if Tebow positively contributed to the team. I just doubt it. Agreed...I just want us to win that's all...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GimmeShelter Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 If anyone in the NFL thought that Tebowmania wasn't smoke & mirrors, he'd be a starting QB somewhere right now. Instead, he's doing the punt protection work for the Jets in between stints of putting up a passer rating of 26.5. He's years away from being an NFL QB, and that's if someone is willing to put that kind of investment in him. With all the injuries the Jets have at TE, they might think about using him there. He's got the build for it. Spot on. The Pitt play-off game (insane Pitt defensive game plan) has lots of fans blinded to the fact of how bad he really was and is. Denver strongly considered starting Quinn behind center on all passing downs and bringing Tebow in for 3rd and short situations for that game. Great guy, great attitude and a great runner. I wish him success since he is a Jet but as of now, he simply is not a NFL QB. NFL defenses always catch up with gimmick offenses at the end of the day and that is what he is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsouth Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 Heath Evans just made the case for Tebow starting on the NFL network.. Like Parcells said (paraphrasing) about TT, you'd have to go all in, and run a weird college style spread offense that played to his skill set. Tim has never looked like other QBs.. never. He has always looked weird to me, running too. But he usually gets the job done, in so many words. There is way more to TT than relegating him to some position he is even less familiar with, than trying to squeeze himself into "an NFL QB" ..which he will in fact, probably never be. If, on the other hand, he finds himself with a coaching staff who is willing to play those intangibles, and the nose for the end zone he has, to its fullest potential.. He will be something more than special, and pretty much everyone is aware of that. It just remains to be seen when that will happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peebag Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 Heath Evans just made the case for Tebow starting on the NFL network.. Like Parcells said (paraphrasing) about TT, you'd have to go all in, and run a weird college style spread offense that played to his skill set. Tim has never looked like other QBs.. never. He has always looked weird to me, running too. But he usually gets the job done, in so many words. There is way more to TT than relegating him to some position he is even less familiar with, than trying to squeeze himself into "an NFL QB" ..which he will in fact, probably never be. If, on the other hand, he finds himself with a coaching staff who is willing to play those intangibles, and the nose for the end zone he has, to its fullest potential.. He will be something more than special, and pretty much everyone is aware of that. It just remains to be seen when that will happen. You do understand that this is the NFL right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsouth Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 You do understand that this is the NFL right? Oh, NO... I thought this was Urology.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsouth Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 Denver strongly considered starting Quinn behind center on all passing downs and bringing Tebow in for 3rd and short situations for that game. Where did you get this information..or did you just make it up ? You do realize you're talking about a QB that has the second highest PER ever..as in for ever of any NCAA Div 1 QB..(yes I know its not the NFL, in that case, he has added himself to the list of rare QBs that have thrown for over 300 in a playoff game, something it took P.Manning years to do) I guess I am one of those idiots that realizes that a QB is only as good as the players he has to throw to, or work with. You take Welker, Hernandez and Gronk (and now Lloyd and Demps) away from Brady, and the Pats go 8-8, this year. Sure he looks like sh*t at present throwing to Hayden Smith the rugby player, and guys that will be cut this week, but I wonder how many people who evaluate TT even have an idea what the game is about..obviously, Rex Ryan, Mike T, Tony Sparano and guys like Bill Parcells must be some stupid ass people compared to the fan base. If you don't like Tebow, great.. I don't like a lot of people either.. especially "know it all" types. He is a beast, and the JETS cut him lose the other night, in the last few minutes, and most of you guys missed it entirely. The Broncos coaching staff did the same thing with him several times last year, and he managed to eek a win out of a loss when they did so. He will never "look" like a conventional QB, I gave up a long time ago..and don't care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 Its not that Tebow doesnt look like a conventional QB and to think its only thst is ridiculous. Tebow was successful in the spread offense in college because he had a college career compl. percentage of 64%. He was 70% his senior year. He's been 37% this preseason and 46% last year. To argue that a team should go "all in" on him before he can prove that he can complete a majority of his throws on a pro level is absurd. Tebow is not an NFL QB and he wont be until he ups his compl. percentage dramatically. That has nothing to do with being "conventional qb" but rather, a baseline level of QB competence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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