T0mShane Posted November 6, 2013 Share Posted November 6, 2013 Idzik won't waste the $50 million in cap space. And if we finally have a real QB to build around, that's the best news of it all for our future. Oh, and we went 11-5 and had one of the most fun seasons in Jet history that year so..... And then what happened? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted November 6, 2013 Share Posted November 6, 2013 Won't it be .600 if they win next week? Pedantic cocksucker, you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 You were saying... She's 12 years old you farking imbecile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 And then what happened? You became a bitter old man? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 The kiss of death! The kiss of death is anything Tom kisses. The only ones that benefit from that is the bartender that served them both all night long before their regretful decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sourceworx Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 And then what happened? They expected their 5th overall QB to be more than a game manager, and he imploded because he couldn't handle it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 They expected their 5th overall QB to be more than a game manager, and he imploded because he couldn't handle it? Sure, but if this was Family Feud, that'd be the sixth tile that flips over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jettington Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 Waiting for the Darrel Bevell people to come out of the woodwork, don't quite know he would be a more qualified or better coach, but he is on the seahawks, that seems to be the only reason people are throwing his name out there, even though he has never fielded a top 10 offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sourceworx Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 Sure, but if this was Family Feud, that'd be the sixth tile that flips over. 52 turnovers in two years is a minor issue? Do you even understand how the game of football works? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sourceworx Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 Waiting for the Darrel Bevell people to come out of the woodwork, don't quite know he would be a more qualified or better coach, but he is on the seahawks, that seems to be the only reason people are throwing his name out there, even though he has never fielded a top 10 offense. He's Brian Schottenheimer, minus the household last name. But Tom thinks we should emulate the Bears' front office, because they've been a model franchise the last 20 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 52 turnovers in two years is a minor issue? Do you even understand how the game of football works? No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 Waiting for the Darrel Bevell people to come out of the woodwork, don't quite know he would be a more qualified or better coach, but he is on the seahawks, that seems to be the only reason people are throwing his name out there, even though he has never fielded a top 10 offense. Remember when Rex was the line coach for that great Ravens team? Remember when he was the defensive coordinator for the 24th-ranked Ravens defense? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 "Jim Harbaugh? Pfft. What has Stanford ever done? Pffffft" "John Harbaugh? A special teams coach? Pffffft." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 Jets fans, in large part, deserve to go 7-9 until they die. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sourceworx Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 Jets fans, in large part, deserve to go 7-9 until they die. Considering they want to fire the head coach the second things don't go well, you're right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 Jets fans, in large part, deserve to go 7-9 until they die. I want 10-6 this season. And I want a future with Rex Ryan now that he has a real QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 Considering they want to fire the head coach the second things don't go well, you're right. Five years=the second Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 Five years=the second Firing a coach every 5 years or so has been our mantra. For once why can't we have a little patience? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sourceworx Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 Five years=the second What didn't go well in 2009 and 2010? What isn't going well now, considering the low expectations and weak roster? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sourceworx Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 Firing a coach every 5 years or so has been our mantra. For once why can't we have a little patience? These are the same people that say we should be more like the Steelers. You know, the franchise that changes coaches once every generation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sourceworx Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 No. You didn't have to answer. I already knew. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 Firing a coach every 5 years or so has been our mantra. For once why can't we have a little patience? Define "patience." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 Define "patience." I think now that we have adults in the room at GM and OC, Rex is able to simply do the things he's good at. He's good at making his players like him and want to compete hard for him. He's good at being hands-on with the defense. He won't have to worry about a GM constantly leaning on him for advice on who to draft or sign, as things seemed to be under Tannenbaum. Idzik will shop for the groceries, and already he seems adept at that job. Marty can run the offense, and hopefully he'll be here for a while to do that. I think this group, Idzik-Rex-Marty-Geno, are capable of being a great group to run the show. I want to see how the team does under that foursome for a few years before Idzik decides to bring in more of his own people. If Rex can get the team as it's currently constructed to 5-4 and a real contender to make the playoffs, I think the ceiling is incredibly high for the future with so many draft picks and cap dollars available to us this offseason. With Rex we know what we get out of him, both the good and the bad. And as I've said many times, in my mind, the good outweighs the bad by a significant margin. I fully supported the firings of Herm and Mangini when they happened. It would take a major collapse for me to support firing Rex. I say, give him at minimum 3 more years before we decide to start all over with a new coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 Remember when Rex was the line coach for that great Ravens team? Remember when he was the defensive coordinator for the 24th-ranked Ravens defense? Being that the lowest ranked defense Rex has ever had was last year's #8 squad, I suspect that very few people remember this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 Being that the lowest ranked defense Rex has ever had was last year's #8 squad, I suspect that very few people remember this. 2007, PPGA, 22nd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 I think now that we have adults in the room at GM and OC, Rex is able to simply do the things he's good at. He's good at making his players like him and want to compete hard for him. He's good at being hands-on with the defense. He won't have to worry about a GM constantly leaning on him for advice on who to draft or sign, as things seemed to be under Tannenbaum. Idzik will shop for the groceries, and already he seems adept at that job. Marty can run the offense, and hopefully he'll be here for a while to do that. I think this group, Idzik-Rex-Marty-Geno, are capable of being a great group to run the show. I want to see how the team does under that foursome for a few years before Idzik decides to bring in more of his own people. If Rex can get the team as it's currently constructed to 5-4 and a real contender to make the playoffs, I think the ceiling is incredibly high for the future with so many draft picks and cap dollars available to us this offseason. With Rex we know what we get out of him, both the good and the bad. And as I've said many times, in my mind, the good outweighs the bad by a significant margin. I fully supported the firings of Herm and Mangini when they happened. It would take a major collapse for me to support firing Rex. I say, give him at minimum 3 more years before we decide to start all over with a new coach. You want to pretend that the New Orleans win was the norm instead of the anomaly. You want to believe that the Cincinnati game was an anomaly rather than the norm. Recent history suggests otherwise, resoundingly. Look it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 You want to pretend that the New Orleans win was the norm instead of the anomaly. You want to believe that the Cincinnati game was an anomaly rather than the norm. Recent history suggests otherwise, resoundingly. Look it up. I think we're a team lacking in talent that has found a way to win games we shouldn't and lose badly to teams that are better. What in that Cincinnati game suggested it was more bad coaching than being soundly outplayed by a better team? The Bengals won basically every battle at the point of attack. Our secondary, as it has every game when we can't apply pressure to the QB, got a spanking. We are what we are. A team whose only really good unit is the DL. Everywhere else on the field we've been outmatched talent-wise in every game but Buffalo and maybe Tampa. Rex takes responsibility for the fact that we couldn't even be competitive in a game like that, but if you're looking at that game and saying "Rex lost it, it's 90 % on him" I don't know what to tell you. Just look at the horses and tell me how you think this team should be better than 5-4. If the Saints game was an anomaly in your mind, was the Pats game an anomaly too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 2007, PPGA, 22nd. #6 in yards against that year, the stat generally associated with a unit's ranking. And that was with a 5-11 Brian Billick coached team with Kyle Boller at starting QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 You want to pretend that the New Orleans win was the norm instead of the anomaly. You want to believe that the Cincinnati game was an anomaly rather than the norm. Recent history suggests otherwise, resoundingly. Look it up. In recent history, the Jets faced three division leaders in a row and defeated two of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 2007, PPGA, 22nd. If we only talk about granola bars I barely ever eat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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