JetNation Posted December 24, 2013 Share Posted December 24, 2013 We are down to the last week of the regular season and the Jets have nothing to play for other than draft position and Rex’s job. Week 17 is filled with nothing but divisional match-ups so figuring out Strength Of Schedule (SOS) is easier. Because of this the Jets have to be within 4 games of any team to have a shot at passing them or be passed by them. Here’s the current list of teams the Jets will have to deal with in any tiebreakers: Pick Team Record SOS Opp. Left 9 TEN 6 – 9 121 – 119 @ Houston 10 NYG 6 – 9 124 – 114 – 2 Washington 11 BUF 6 – 9 125 – 115 @ NE 12 DET 7 – 8 107 – 129 – 4 @ Minnesota 13 PIT 7 – 8 112 – 126 – 2 Cleveland 14 NYJ 7 – 8 118 – 122 @ Miami 15 STL 7 – 8 133 – 107 @ Seattle 16 GB 7 – 7 – 1 108 – 130 – 2 @ Chicago 17 DAL 8 – 7 114 – 124 – 2 Philadelphia 18 BAL 8 – 7 114 – 124 – 2 @ Cincinnati 19 SD 8 – 7 120 – 120 Kansas City 21 MIA 8 – 7 124 – 116 NYJ 25 CHI 8 – 7 108 – 128 – 4 Green Bay The Dolphins and Bears at 21 and 25 are listed since both can drop outside the playoffs and can be involved if they lose. As I said before the Jets can only pass or be passed by teams who are within 4 games, so quite a few teams have the tiebreaker already settled. The Giants, Bills, Lions, Steelers, Rams, Packers, Dolphins, Chargers and Bears cannot be passed by the Jets or pass the Jets. So that just leaves the Titans, Cowboys, and Ravens who could be involved. Moving on to the scenarios the best the Jets can do is get the 9th pick in the draft and this is how it’s done: Jets lose Bills win Giants win Titans win Lions win Steelers win This would give the Jets a slight edge in SOS with the Titans at 128-128 and the Jets at 127-128 with only the Broncos-Raiders game left to count in the Jets SOS. If the Raiders lose then the Jets beat the Titans on SOS and if the Raiders win then the Jets would win based on conference record 4-8 vs. the Titans 6-6. The rest of the scenarios with a Jets loss are easy enough to explain as the Jets lose a pick as each of the above doesn’t happen basically if they go 6 for 6 then they get the 9th pick but if they only get 5 out of 6 then they would get the 10th pick, 4 out of 6 would get them the 11th pick, etc. Alright we move on to the other scenario where the Jets can take the 18th pick of the draft if this complex scenario occurs: Jets win Rams lose Steelers lose Cowboys lose Ravens lose Titans or Raiders win Chargers win If you noticed earlier I put the Chargers on the cannot pass list despite being within 4 games this is because if the above happens the Chargers would win on SOS by at least 3 games if they tie. So with this scenario the Jets fall short of the Dolphins and Chargers in SOS which cost them one spot since one of these two would be in the playoffs. The Steelers had to lose since the Jets would lose 2 spots rather than one . A Titans or Raiders win would give the Jets a narrow win in SOS over Baltimore by 1 game since both finished-based teams on their schedule play each other Texans(Ravens)-Titans(Jets) and Broncos(Ravens)-Raiders(Jets) so there is no leeway on this. A Chargers win would give them the playoff spot thus allowing the Jets to drop to 18th rather than 17th if the Charger lose. It doesn’t matter who wins the NFC North as the loser would have a worse SOS than the Jets. As with the other one the Jets would go up a spot if each one doesn’t happen aside from the Ravens and the Titans/Raiders scenarios which are connected since if the Ravens win it won’t matter what the Titans and Raiders do and a Steelers win won’t mean much unless both the Ravens and Chargers lose since they won’t be in the playoffs and thus still lose to the Jets in SOS. View the full article Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewillie78 Posted December 24, 2013 Share Posted December 24, 2013 Doesnt matter, I'm sure their will be a D-LINEMAN available at both 9 or 14, or anywhere in between. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aec4 Posted December 24, 2013 Share Posted December 24, 2013 It's draft pick position, just let it fall where it may. As you can see, the better position you pick does not insure a better player. The jets got a potential DROY at 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewillie78 Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 It's draft pick position, just let it fall where it may. As you can see, the better position you pick does not insure a better player. The jets got a potential DROY at 13 I agree, when you are picking D-linemaen every year, then yeah, but this year we may actually take someone on the offensive side of the ball, but Shhhhhh, dont tell Rex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LionelRichie Posted December 26, 2013 Share Posted December 26, 2013 the problem for the Jets is that all of the QB needy teams pick in front of them. Jax, Minnesota, Cleveland, Oakland. The 5th best QB in the draft doesn't excite me at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewillie78 Posted December 26, 2013 Share Posted December 26, 2013 the problem for the Jets is that all of the QB needy teams pick in front of them. Jax, Minnesota, Cleveland, Oakland. The 5th best QB in the draft doesn't excite me at all. Trade up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aec4 Posted December 26, 2013 Share Posted December 26, 2013 I'd rather we get wrs or tes in the draft. I don't think there is a real top of the draft Qb out there. I still think draft position is overhyped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted December 26, 2013 Share Posted December 26, 2013 Doesnt matter, I'm sure their will be a D-LINEMAN available at both 9 or 14, or anywhere in between. lmao Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted December 26, 2013 Share Posted December 26, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neckdemon Posted December 26, 2013 Share Posted December 26, 2013 at this point it doesn't matter. with the jets winning last week, now i just want them to beat the phags Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LionelRichie Posted December 26, 2013 Share Posted December 26, 2013 Trade up. You say "trade up" like the draft is an episode of "I Dream of Jeannie" and Idzik can just blink his eyes and move up to #1. Realistically the Jets would have to package multiple 1's and 2's to get Bridgewater at #1. To get their pick of QB after Bridgewater the Jets would need to get to #2. That is basically the RG3 trade the Rams made a few years ago and don't forget the Jets would be moving up 10 more spots than the Redskins moved up. The Jets have holes pretty much everywhere except DL so sacrificing 2 drafts worth of picks doesn't seem like a smart move. How do you suggest that the Jets move up? Which QB is worth at least 3 1st rd picks+ in this years draft? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewillie78 Posted December 26, 2013 Share Posted December 26, 2013 You say "trade up" like the draft is an episode of "I Dream of Jeannie" and Idzik can just blink his eyes and move up to #1. Realistically the Jets would have to package multiple 1's and 2's to get Bridgewater at #1. To get their pick of QB after Bridgewater the Jets would need to get to #2. That is basically the RG3 trade the Rams made a few years ago and don't forget the Jets would be moving up 10 more spots than the Redskins moved up. The Jets have holes pretty much everywhere except DL so sacrificing 2 drafts worth of picks doesn't seem like a smart move. How do you suggest that the Jets move up? Which QB is worth at least 3 1st rd picks+ in this years draft? Do you really think the Jets need to get to #2 after Teddy goes #1? People on this very forum have Manziel dropping as far as #15, and my belief is that Manziel is definitley #2 after Bridgewater? Now, I dont believe Manziel drops out of the TOP 5 which means the Jets need to get to St Louis's pick (via Washington) or if he is still available, get to Atlanta's pick as niether St. Louis or Atlanta are QB shopping. No, I wouldnt give up mutliple #1's, but I could see packaging our #1, a #2, another later round pick and possibly like a #2 next year. Look, if they dont trade up and stay where they are, then simply draft McCarron, Mettenberg, Murray, Carr if you like him, but draft someone from this QB loaded draft. Like I have said in other threads, everytime the Jets skip a Great QB draft like this year, they get burned, then panic and take a QB like SMITH and SANCHEZ from a QB horrible draft. Here we go again, skipping another great draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted December 26, 2013 Share Posted December 26, 2013 Trade up. they already fired the trade up guy. they now have the "wait for the draft to come to you" guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewillie78 Posted December 26, 2013 Share Posted December 26, 2013 they already fired the trade up guy. they now have the "wait for the draft to come to you" guy No they havent, Not until Black Monday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artemusclyde Posted December 26, 2013 Share Posted December 26, 2013 Do you really think the Jets need to get to #2 after Teddy goes #1? People on this very forum have Manziel dropping as far as #15, and my belief is that Manziel is definitley #2 after Bridgewater? Now, I dont believe Manziel drops out of the TOP 5 which means the Jets need to get to St Louis's pick (via Washington) or if he is still available, get to Atlanta's pick as niether St. Louis or Atlanta are QB shopping. No, I wouldnt give up mutliple #1's, but I could see packaging our #1, a #2, another later round pick and possibly like a #2 next year. Look, if they dont trade up and stay where they are, then simply draft McCarron, Mettenberg, Murray, Carr if you like him, but draft someone from this QB loaded draft. Like I have said in other threads, everytime the Jets skip a Great QB draft like this year, they get burned, then panic and take a QB like SMITH and SANCHEZ from a QB horrible draft. Here we go again, skipping another great draft. Manziel isn't going second after Bridgewater. Bortles and Carr (depending on his senior bowl performance) will go ahead of him. The question is though, will the Vikings take him at 8? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewillie78 Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 Manziel isn't going second after Bridgewater. Bortles and Carr (depending on his senior bowl performance) will go ahead of him. The question is though, will the Vikings take him at 8? If Manziel is there at 8 for The Vikings, they will take him faster than REX take's top rated D-Linemen. The dude from the Vikings table at the draft, will be up there before Goodell reads the name of the guy drafted at #7. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupz27 Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 the problem for the Jets is that all of the QB needy teams pick in front of them. Jax, Minnesota, Cleveland, Oakland. The 5th best QB in the draft doesn't excite me at all. But the Giants, Rams, Falcons, and possibly the Bucs if they like Glennon pick in the area where these QB's will be available, and if your willing to give up the picks any QB not named T Bridgewater could be had (and even he could be had if the Texans pull a M Williams scenario, and grab Clowney, Barr, or Matthews, and Rams on the clock with pick #2 Bridgewater to the highest bidder in that scenario)! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewillie78 Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 But the Giants, Rams, Falcons, and possibly the Bucs if they like Glennon pick in the area where these QB's will be available, and if your willing to give up the picks any QB not named T Bridgewater could be had (and even he could be had if the Texans pull a M Williams scenario, and grab Clowney, Barr, or Matthews, and Rams on the clock with pick #2 Bridgewater to the highest bidder in that scenario)! I gotta believe that Houston is absolutely going Bridgewater, or the hometown hero, but I like your other scenarios. It would be a dream come true for Jet fans, if Houston went Clowney, and then left Bridgewater for the highest bidder, and who has more firepower right now than the Jets? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jorge o8 Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 the jags vikings, texans,Browns, Okland all will be looking for QBs. this kid Garoppolo is not bad very, very accurate like with a 3rd from the bucs or do we get a 4th? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bassmaster2 Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 The Jets should forget about draft a QB this year and fix other problems like OL , WR , LB ,sign a FA QB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LionelRichie Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 I gotta believe that Houston is absolutely going Bridgewater, or the hometown hero, but I like your other scenarios. It would be a dream come true for Jet fans, if Houston went Clowney, and then left Bridgewater for the highest bidder, and who has more firepower right now than the Jets? Cleveland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewillie78 Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 Cleveland. They do ? Please explain? Will they have more picks than the Jets, more cap room available? Thanks in advance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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