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27 minutes ago, thadude said:

Any shot we can trade Melo for Blake Griffin?  Reason I think this could actually happen is Melo is the same player but a lot more durable and he would waive his no trade clause to Play in LA with Paul

Clippers are saying they want to max Griffin.  

The only way a Griffin trade works is with a 3rd team with Knicks getting picks & bit players and Griffin going elsewhere.  For instance, with Celtics or Miami being the 3rd team.

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On ‎5‎/‎3‎/‎2017 at 10:30 AM, SMC said:

Clippers are saying they want to max Griffin.  

The only way a Griffin trade works is with a 3rd team with Knicks getting picks & bit players and Griffin going elsewhere.  For instance, with Celtics or Miami being the 3rd team.

Chris Paul and Blake Griffin are both opting out and becoming UFA this summer so the Clippers would have to give out 2 Max deals to retain both.  Paul I'd give a max to even at the age of 31 but not Griffin he is an egg.

 

On the contrary, Melo has only 2 years left on his deal and Paul has already said publicly he'd like to play with him.

 

 

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17 hours ago, SMC said:

So much for Houston.  Like I said, if SA plays defense it's a series and whenever SA played defense they dominated

Who would have thought that Harden would turn into a turnover prone doofus in the playoffs, choking in the most critical game and going off the rails? It's not like that has ever happened before.

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7 hours ago, Matt39 said:

I did not expect that. Harden had his head up his ass.

That's what happens when the referees don't suck your ballbag dry for 38 minutes per night. Harden inherited the Michael Jordan forcefield rule last regular season.  I'm not even exaggerating Harden would grab players and the players he grabbed would get fouls called against them.

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I'll be landing in Michigan for a pro bono case at about the time the NBA Lottery Show starts, so at least I'll have good karma while the Basketball Gods screw us.

Crazy stat I just found out:  the Knicks have been in the NBA lottery 13 times since Ewing, and have fallen back 4 times but never jumped up.

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22 hours ago, SMC said:

I'll be landing in Michigan for a pro bono case at about the time the NBA Lottery Show starts, so at least I'll have good karma while the Basketball Gods screw us.

Crazy stat I just found out:  the Knicks have been in the NBA lottery 13 times since Ewing, and have fallen back 4 times but never jumped up.

What did Dolan ever do to Stern?  Make fun of his kids?

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LOL. Just like the Knicks. Five times fall in the draft. Think about this, TWICE a team had moved up from 9 to grab top pick in lottery but Knicks have never jumped.

Smith and French Kid are good choices at 8

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10 hours ago, SMC said:

LOL. Just like the Knicks. Five times fall in the draft. Think about this, TWICE a team had moved up from 9 to grab top pick in lottery but Knicks have never jumped.

Smith and French Kid are good choices at 8

The Lakers have won inside to the top 3 two out of the last 3 years.  Anyone who doesn't think the draft is rigged has their head in their poop chute

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9 hours ago, Matt39 said:

Good to see Porzingis spending the offseason boxing in Eastern Europe. WHG gonna make him expendable...

The chance to sell high on Porzingis was a rare opportunity. There was such a huge gap between his perceived value and his real value. Now the gap has shrunk and he's disgruntled and telling everybody he won't resign. Blowing the best shot to ******* do it right for a change since 2010 at least is the dumbest yet of all Phil's derps.

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5 minutes ago, Miss Lonelyhearts said:

The chance to sell high on Porzingis was a rare opportunity. There was such a huge gap between his perceived value and his real value. Now the gap has shrunk and he's disgruntled and telling everybody he won't resign. Blowing the best shot to ******* do it right for a change since 2010 at least is the dumbest yet of all Phil's derps.

There's still plenty of opportunity. However the fanbase would revolt if Phil moved him. 

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2 minutes ago, Miss Lonelyhearts said:

The fanbase will never revolt.

Fair. However Porzingis secretly kind of sucks while the general perception is he's the next Dirk/KG combined. It's a tough spot to be in- Phil sucks, but he's the best this franchise is ever going to do with the owner....managing the PR if they were to move Porzingis would be a total sh*tshow. 

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58 minutes ago, Matt39 said:

Fair. However Porzingis secretly kind of sucks while the general perception is he's the next Dirk/KG combined. It's a tough spot to be in- Phil sucks, but he's the best this franchise is ever going to do with the owner....managing the PR if they were to move Porzingis would be a total sh*tshow. 

Total sh*tshow is a clear improvement on the present circumstances.

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2 hours ago, Matt39 said:

Fair. However Porzingis secretly kind of sucks while the general perception is he's the next Dirk/KG combined. It's a tough spot to be in- Phil sucks, but he's the best this franchise is ever going to do with the owner....managing the PR if they were to move Porzingis would be a total sh*tshow. 

Porzingis doesn't suck.  He's 20 and still in Melo's shadow.  Does his skill set fit today's game which is all about wings and PG's?  Not necessarily but it wasn't too long ago big men like Dirk and Duncan were winning NBA championships.

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, Miss Lonelyhearts said:

Total sh*tshow is a clear improvement on the present circumstances.

The Nets are a sh*tshow.  The Knicks are just mediocre and need to move on from Melo and Phil needs to hit another home run in the draft.

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2 hours ago, Matt39 said:

There's still plenty of opportunity. However the fanbase would revolt if Phil moved him. 

We're not trading KP.  He's under contract three more years and barring a radically different CBA by then we will be able to offer $30 million more than any other NBA team.  By that time, Phil, Melo etc will be gone and KP will start peaking along with Hernangomez along with hopefully a good young PG Phil drafts at 8 this summer

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On 5/17/2017 at 11:09 AM, nj meadowlands said:

If the Knicks had won 33 instead of 31 games, they'd be picking 3rd . Lol

If the Knicks changed their name to the LA Lakers they'd have gotten into the top 3 of the lottery two out of the last 3 drafts.

#notrigged

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11 hours ago, thadude said:

We're not trading KP.  He's under contract three more years and barring a radically different CBA by then we will be able to offer $30 million more than any other NBA team.  By that time, Phil, Melo etc will be gone and KP will start peaking along with Hernangomez along with hopefully a good young PG Phil drafts at 8 this summer

We have no idea what KP is. People assuming he's the franchise are out of their minds. No different than the way the organization/fanbase/local media has enabled Melo, we're now doing it with KP- who's off doing god knows what this offseason. The Knicks win 30 games every year- maybe it's time to realize the guys who are taking all of the shots are the reason why they suck?

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12 hours ago, Matt39 said:

We have no idea what KP is. People assuming he's the franchise are out of their minds. No different than the way the organization/fanbase/local media has enabled Melo, we're now doing it with KP- who's off doing god knows what this offseason. The Knicks win 30 games every year- maybe it's time to realize the guys who are taking all of the shots are the reason why they suck?

KP was a succesful pick.  He's going to end up being the 2nd best player out of the 2015 draft.  Is he hyped up and overrated because of NY?  Sure but that doesn't negate the fact that he is a future 20 and 10 guy.

 

That said the nba is so different now than the 90's and early 2000's.  Wings and PG's are so dominant now because no one is allowed to play zone defense or defense in general.  Big men like KP aren't as important as they were before but that doesn't mean a good center still doesn't help especially one who can shoot like KP

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