Mogglez Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 1 minute ago, detectivekimble said: Williams is first-team all-pro? How much do you want to bet that he won't make any all pro team this year? He's not first team all-pro just because you say so. His team sucks. He probably won't be named one. Doesn't mean that he doesn't deserve it. It's only year 2 of their careers. Let's agree to disagree and move on here. They're both promising talents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detectivekimble Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 Just now, Mogglez said: His team sucks. He probably won't be named one. Doesn't mean that he doesn't deserve it. It's only year 2 of their careers. Let's agree to disagree and move on here. They're both promising talents. I started a thread earlier this year saying I'd pay Williams but wouldn't pay Sheldon or Wilkerson because I thought Williams was a better talent than both of those guys. I'm just saying that Beasley is good and was probably a better pick for the Jets. As of now, the Jets still have a huge hole at OLB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detectivekimble Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 3 minutes ago, Mogglez said: His team sucks. He probably won't be named one. Doesn't mean that he doesn't deserve it. It's only year 2 of their careers. Let's agree to disagree and move on here. They're both promising talents. Ideally, you'd pair Williams with Myles Garrett or Jonathon Allen. I think the Jets ****ed themselves out of both, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogglez Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 1 minute ago, detectivekimble said: I started a thread earlier this year saying I'd pay Williams but wouldn't pay Sheldon or Wilkerson because I thought Williams was a better talent than both of those guys. I'm just saying that Beasley is good and was probably a better pick for the Jets. As of now, the Jets still have a huge hole at OLB. Hopefully that changes this spring. I think we can both agree that Williams paired with one of the talented guys coming out this year (Garrett plz) would be mucccccccch better for our team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogglez Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 1 minute ago, detectivekimble said: Ideally, you'd pair Williams with Myles Garrett or Jonathon Allen. I think the Jets ****ed themselves out of both, though. Probably Garrett but Allen might still be feasible. Really is gonna depend on what Cleveland does with that #1 pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King P Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 2 minutes ago, Mogglez said: Hopefully that changes this spring. I think we can both agree that Williams paired with one of the talented guys coming out this year (Garrett plz) would be mucccccccch better for our team. No Garrett for us, but there's still hope to fill that OLB spot with a beast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detectivekimble Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 1 minute ago, King P said: No Garrett for us, but there's still hope to fill that OLB spot with a beast The Jets probably blew their chance at him, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSteve Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 27 minutes ago, detectivekimble said: The only people who say that Williams was a better pick than Beasley are Jets fans. It's a totally homer point of view. Beasley led the NFL in sacks and is going to be a first-team all pro. He also forces turnovers. The Broncos had to pull their ******* OT because Beasley was abusing him. That is an impact player. WOW....okay dude. Like I said, you will go down in flames holding your torch high. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogglez Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 38 minutes ago, detectivekimble said: The Jets probably blew their chance at him, too. Nahhhhhh, you think? I just can't seem em both (AND Allen) being off the board by 6. I think one of the dominant 3 will be there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King P Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 2 minutes ago, Mogglez said: Nahhhhhh, you think? I just can't seem em both (AND Allen) being off the board by 6. I think one of the dominant 3 will be there. I could see Jacksonville or Tennessee taking him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 We've needed an edge rusher for a decade, and Williams is obviously redundant in regards to the guys we already had, but I actually think he's way underrated by Jets fans. He's a stud. The real issues are a.) Maccagnan didn't trade Wilkerson or Richardson when he had the chance, and b.) the coaching staff is utterly clueless as to how to play the three of them together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMan77 Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 Williams is going to be a great Jet. He's started taking on a big time leadership role, and he's playing to back that up. He's going to be an important and super productive member of this team for a long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detectivekimble Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 12 hours ago, CanadaSteve said: WOW....okay dude. Like I said, you will go down in flames holding your torch high. You can't dispute anything I've said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe W. Namath Posted January 2, 2017 Author Share Posted January 2, 2017 Beasley led the league in sacks. Williams is good but we missed out on the best edge rusher in the league. At this point in their careers, it's not even close. Beasley is the superior player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 4 minutes ago, Joe W. Namath said: Beasley led the league in sacks. Williams is good but we missed out on the best edge rusher in the league. At this point in their careers, it's not even close. Beasley is the superior player. Why does this point need to be made? Why not just be happy with what we have and not look at what other people have? What is the point of this thread? It is not constructive or offers anything of value. At least when I make a thread, I suggest something constructive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe W. Namath Posted January 2, 2017 Author Share Posted January 2, 2017 13 minutes ago, UnitedWhofans said: Why does this point need to be made? Why not just be happy with what we have and not look at what other people have? What is the point of this thread? It is not constructive or offers anything of value. At least when I make a thread, I suggest something constructive It is to show that the guy running the draft cannot make easy decisions like, "Hey, this williams guy is good but we have 2 other good players at that position. We should go with the elite edge rusher here because we have a problem getting to the qb." And because he didnt make the decision, the best pass rusher in the league is not on our roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 Just now, Joe W. Namath said: It is to show that the guy running the draft cannot make easy decisions like, "Hey, this williams guy is good but we have 2 other good players at that position. We should go with the elite edge rusher here because we have a problem getting to the qb." And because he didnt make the decision, the best pass rusher in the league is not on our roster. Basically every thread here is either "Bowles sucks" "Macc sucks" "Fitz sucks" etc. There should just be 3 mega threads with those titles. Because that's essentially what every thread is. Ironically, everybody here thinks picking Williams was an easy decision. You are the only person who has brought ANY sense of regret to that pick. In both media and fandom. So why do you think you are alone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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