Integrity28 Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 1 hour ago, Nolder said: Wow that scum qt. Smash do you get along with anyone? Lol Link. Just read this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gone Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 Yeah big thanks to kaylee too ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gone Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 1 hour ago, Nolder said: Wow that scum qt. Smash do you get along with anyone? Lol He kinda gets along with me. Pretty shocking. Lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gone Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 1 minute ago, Integrity28 said: Link. Just read this Im sad you didnt live longer. I was curious to see if you'd hound me for being the SK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gone Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 @The Crusher glad we decided to play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted May 24, 2018 Author Share Posted May 24, 2018 8 hours ago, Nynaeve said: No offense or anything. I just dont really believe in giving any type of hints about the setup via flavor so I tend to either not read, or if I do, I dont usually factor it into my musings. Balance wise it made more sense to me for there to be 3 scum and a SK, based soley on numbers. Though I guess all the town PRs might have balanced things out. Unsure. No offense at all. But serious question does anybody agree w/ this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pac Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 3 minutes ago, HessStation said: No offense at all. But serious question does anybody agree w/ this? Lol.. whadda u think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gone Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 4 minutes ago, HessStation said: No offense at all. But serious question does anybody agree w/ this? It really doesnt matter. I'm not trying to make you question yourself. I was just explaining why I assumed what I did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted May 24, 2018 Author Share Posted May 24, 2018 Just now, Nynaeve said: It really doesnt matter. I'm not trying to make you question yourself. I was just explaining why I assumed what I did. No not at all, but I think it's important for future games. Scum should be 25-33% of the game, pending 3rd party. Thats isually how it works. For your benefit too...and everyone's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted May 24, 2018 Author Share Posted May 24, 2018 4 minutes ago, Pac said: Lol.. whadda u think? I said serious question. I don't think Nyn's thinking is right based on numbers. Your thoughts? It doesn't bother me at all. I had Doggin approve so I'm good, but only 3 Scum and 1 SK in game of 17, seems awfully low for scum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gone Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 I would say 5 is right for 20 players. But i get lost with the balancing of all the prs so if the town prs give town an edge then maybe it balances out. I just feel like short of scum and sk shooting each other... it was a hard game to win for town, even with my vigs and crusher getting peeked and protected correctly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 8 minutes ago, HessStation said: I said serious question. I don't think Nyn's thinking is right based on numbers. Your thoughts? It doesn't bother me at all. I had Doggin approve so I'm good, but only 3 Scum and 1 SK in game of 17, seems awfully low for scum It really depends on how powered the town is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pac Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 1 hour ago, HessStation said: I said serious question. I don't think Nyn's thinking is right based on numbers. Your thoughts? It doesn't bother me at all. I had Doggin approve so I'm good, but only 3 Scum and 1 SK in game of 17, seems awfully low for scum Mafia 101 says 4 scum in a 16 person game for a 25 percent ratio.. 17 naturally meant 4 scum and a sk. Flavor gave away characters. Think those who don't look for clues from mod are missing the boat. I pack clues in scenes and mini scenes when I mod. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gone Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 17 minutes ago, Pac said: Mafia 101 says 4 scum in a 16 person game for a 25 percent ratio.. 17 naturally meant 4 scum and a sk. Flavor gave away characters. Think those who don't look for clues from mod are missing the boat. I pack clues in scenes and mini scenes when I mod. 4 none town for 16 players. Adding a sk makes it 5 none town to 16 players. Hence my comment. What you say would be accurate if there wasnt a sk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gone Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 And what can I say? As a mod i like letting the players figure it out vs me giving hints that influece the game. Dont like it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gone Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 I mean you can just have an open setup and list the roles and so on pre-game if you really want that info out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gone Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 *shrugs* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted May 24, 2018 Author Share Posted May 24, 2018 1 hour ago, Verbal said: It really depends on how powered the town is. 15 minutes ago, Pac said: Mafia 101 says 4 scum in a 16 person game for a 25 percent ratio.. 17 naturally meant 4 scum and a sk. Flavor gave away characters. Think those who don't look for clues from mod are missing the boat. I pack clues in scenes and mini scenes when I mod. Yep. I'd like to think all sides being so powered up this game the roles cancelled each other out. Everyone wants a pr to make it more fun but with that, it sets up a thousand different potential scenarios and outcomes. The game could have been over just as quickly for either side. Luckily it worked out well with each side have more than a lot of chances to still win at end game. Even Nol had a chance if he had a better FR and a couple things broke right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted May 24, 2018 Author Share Posted May 24, 2018 4 minutes ago, Nynaeve said: 4 none town for 16 players. Adding a sk makes it 5 none town to 16 players. Hence my comment. What you say would be accurate if there wasnt a sk I'm wondering what the consensus is on this. I don't know for sure but always considered 3rd party separate to the rule of 3:1 ratio. You're the first person I've heard that considers 3rd party part of the equation. Not saying you're wrong just always considered otherwise. Per basic set up not including PR balance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted May 24, 2018 Author Share Posted May 24, 2018 4 minutes ago, Nynaeve said: *shrugs* I just think it's a good conversation, not even having anything to do w this particular game. ❤️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gone Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 3 minutes ago, HessStation said: I'm wondering what the consensus is on this. I don't know for sure but always considered 3rd party separate to the rule of 3:1 ratio. You're the first person I've heard that considers 3rd party part of the equation. Not saying you're wrong just always considered otherwise. Per basic set up not including PR balance. I dont think there's really wrong or right cause there are so many combinations and ways you can balance it via PR power. I'm no expert with balance. I always consult in my games. Or mostly freak out and Clov tells me what I should do lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pac Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 Yeah I prefer creative modding with a mod who knows how to carry a game while offering up hints to boring predictabilty. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted May 24, 2018 Author Share Posted May 24, 2018 12 minutes ago, Nynaeve said: I dont think there's really wrong or right cause there are so many combinations and ways you can balance it via PR power. I'm no expert with balance. I always consult in my games. Or mostly freak out and Clov tells me what I should do lol Yeah, I think you would just consider a SK part of the ratio and I wouldn't. Obv PRs can change things. But to your point no wrong/right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 Open setups have their place, but its also nice to have games where people have to guess if claims are realistic or not. Adds an extra element. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gone Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 1 hour ago, Jetsfan80 said: Open setups have their place, but its also nice to have games where people have to guess if claims are realistic or not. Adds an extra element. Yep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 Each mod has their preferences and I think we've done this enough at this point to have 'reasonably' balanced games, so it's all good. Except for Pac. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 2 hours ago, Verbal said: Each mod has their preferences and I think we've done this enough at this point to have 'reasonably' balanced games, so it's all good. Balance is never a priority in my games. And that's one of many reasons why I shouldn't ever be allowed to Mod. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gone Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 1 hour ago, Jetsfan80 said: Balance is never a priority in my games. And that's one of many reasons why I shouldn't ever be allowed to Mod. I thought you did well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 1 hour ago, Nynaeve said: I thought you did well In the vanilla game maybe. Anything else, all bets are off, lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 On 5/16/2018 at 1:57 PM, CTM said: no, i say pingy because you are introducing a narrative, ape coaching brick.. that isn't supported by much what happened to this ping @CTM? this is something i hadn't caught until reading back here, now that i'm finally on my laptop. this is the type of nuanced sh*t i feel scum does (FYI this was a reply you made to Stark) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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