"All gas, no brake", "I'm taking receipts with the negativity", "Only positive vibes".

[Alka]

If I want to hire someone to make billboards for me, I'm definitely hiring Robert Saleh!  

If I want someone to coach my team, I don't want anyone coming up with empty sayings and platitudes.

I think Joe Douglas said it best: "I expect to be playing meaningful games in December".

Joe Douglas is correct.  We will be playing meaningful games in December to get a very high draft choice once again.  How high can we go?  Depends on how many games we lose in December, when our record is like 3-10.

I think I like when Al Davis, owner of the Raiders said it best:  "Just win Baby!!!"  No bullsh*t, just win the f-ing game!

[oatmeal]

Joe douglas, Saleh, LaFleur this entire regime are no different from the creep playing 3 card monte in some random alley in Brooklyn 

A bunch of charlatans getting circles coached around them every fall 

[JoeNamathsFurCoat]

You can take all the platitudes and CVS receipts and fling them out the window

2 key decisions / turning points altered the course of the franchise:

1) hiring Saleh over Doug Pederson

2) not tanking when Trevor Lawrence was on the line.  Adam Gase, Frank Gore, and Sam Darnold beating the frigging Rams.

[jetstream23]

Serious question - is there some kind of PFF for rating coaches?

Obviously, the Win-loss record reigns supreme, but what about other objective and subjective measures? i’m sure there are some reasonable ways to assess how a coach uses timeouts, manages the clock, his success rate on challenging plays, etc. I would think there’s a way to put this together even if it is pretty imperfect. Scoring differential between the first half and the second half of the game to assess how good a coach is at making adjustments, etc. Probably a lot of things I’m not thinking of as well. Someway to normalize coaching performances based on the talent on the roster? a WAR type metric like they have in baseball?

[BallinPB]

I don’t want to give up on JD.  He’s put the talent there on this team.  I understand the whole mantra of it starts at the top.  However, this is the most talented team the Jets have had in a long time and JD is responsible for that.  
 

However I do believe Saleh is a fraud.  He’s on the same level as Adam Gase in my book and at least Gase had the excuse of not having any talent to work with .  It’s honestly pathetic for the defense to be this bad.  The scheme is terrible and for Saleh to be a defensive guy is inexcusable.   
 

I believe the offense just needs an average QB and it will be fine.  Too many weapons like we seen last week to play this bad.  

[JTJet]

17 minutes ago, oatmeal said:

Joe douglas, Saleh, LaFleur this entire regime are no different from the creep playing 3 card monte in some random alley in Brooklyn 

A bunch of charlatans getting circles coached around them every fall 

Unfortunately, I think JD will actually get another shot at both coach and QB. 

[Joe W. Namath]

We are 1-2, exactly where we thought we would be at this stage.  Great chance to go 2-2 after next week and week get our qb back.

We are right where we are supposed to be.

[Darnold Schwarzenegger]

8 minutes ago, BallinPB said:

I don’t want to give up on JD.  He’s put the talent there on this team.  I understand the whole mantra of it starts at the top.  However, this is the most talented team the Jets have had in a long time and JD is responsible for that.  
 

Talent is there. I agree. But wins and competitive games aren’t. Is it all on saleh? Not sure. Jds seat should be hot and saleh shouldn’t even be here

[JoeNamathsFurCoat]

Either the talent is fake or the coaches just suck

If they both just genuinely suck this bad, there’s no choice but to put this on Joe Douglas