Smizzy Posted March 27, 2006 Share Posted March 27, 2006 Herm's truth is Chief concern LAKE BUENA VISTA, Fla. - One of the constant themes of Herm Edwards' preaching during his five years with the Jets was that he always tells the truth, that a man is only as good as his word. So, how does he reconcile insisting in November and then again the day after the 2005 season that he was not going to Kansas City - then less than a week later, with two years remaining on his Jets contract, he's got a four-year deal at more money to coach the Chiefs? Was he lying? "I go to bed every night and I sleep well," he said yesterday, sitting in the hotel lobby where the NFL is holding the league meetings. "I know what happened. I know the truth. When I spoke before I left there, I meant it. It didn't work out. When I addressed the team, I meant it. When I addressed the staff, I meant that. Things transpired after that. In simplest terms, I just felt, and the other party felt, that it was best that it went that way." Major friction developed in the days after the Jets ended their 4-12 season. Edwards' relationship with the organization deteriorated. "When both parties discussed it, it was probably time for me to go somewhere else," he said. He is a man of high principle and integrity, but he came off during the process like any greedy coach or player. Sources say Edwards was telling opposing coaches on the field before games at the end of the season he wanted out, something he denied yesterday. The way things played out, his credibility took a hit. "People can say what they want," said Edwards, who previously had been reluctant to discuss any aspect of his departure. "No matter what you say, half the people believe it and half of them don't. I'm not going to worry about what people are thinking. They are going to think what they want to think. That's America." The Jets were worn out by leaks, believing Edwards was the source, that he wanted to go to K.C. to replace his mentor, Dick Vermeil, or that he wanted a contract extension to provide security knowing the Jets were about to enter a rebuilding period. Edwards says he was telling the truth when he said the day after the season, "I'm happy to be the coach here and I want to be the coach here," and that he never asked the Jets for an extension. Four teams searching for head coaches called the Jets to ask about his availability. Kansas City, where he held his first assistant coach's job and where he met his wife, was where he wanted to go. Surprisingly, Edwards never met with Jets owner Woody Johnson after the season and before he was hired by the Chiefs. They only spoke on the phone. They didn't see each other again until the combine in Indianapolis in late February. Terry Bradway, later fired/demoted as Jets GM, cut a deal with his mentor, Carl Peterson, to trade him Edwards for a fourth-round pick, undervaluing a coach who had taken the Jets to the playoffs three times in five years. Edwards, a free agent when he came into the NFL in 1977, was not insulted getting traded for a second-day pick. He joked he told Peterson he paid too much. Edwards was relaxed yesterday during a 30-minute conversation. He is reluctant to discuss specifics of his last week with the Jets and claims he did not sign a gag order preventing him from criticizing the Jets in order to gain his release. "It's not an earth-changing situation," he said. "It's not life or death. They have a new coach and they'll be okay." He praised new coach Eric Mangini, doubted being 35 will work against him and suggested Bill Belichick will provide a good sounding board for Mangini, which is unlikely considering the Jets and Pats play in the same division. Edwards bought Vermeil's condominium in Kansas City, in the same building Peterson lives, and plans to stay there for one year before buying a house. Edwards said he has a spot in his heart for the Jets. "I'm pulling for those guys until we have to play them," Edwards said. That won't come until at least 2007, but he said he will be back at Giants Stadium this summer in a nationally televised preseason game against the Giants. Coaches have a limited shelf life before their message doesn't get across to the players. Edwards reached that point with the Jets. He needed a new audience and they needed a new voice. He said he spoke to a "bunch" of his former players and none of them told him they felt betrayed. His biggest regret with the Jets is "we didn't win a championship." In the end, the Jets wanted a new coach and Edwards wanted a new team. They got what they wanted even if neither party distinguished itself in the process. Originally published on March 27, 2006 "Sources say Edwards was telling opposing coaches on the field before games at the end of the season he wanted out, something he denied yesterday" What a giant POS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
124 Posted March 27, 2006 Share Posted March 27, 2006 "Sources say Edwards was telling opposing coaches on the field before games at the end of the season he wanted out, something he denied yesterday" What a giant POS. ****, we've been saying we wanted him out after the season since 2001. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BwanaZulia Posted March 27, 2006 Share Posted March 27, 2006 "Sources say Edwards was telling opposing coaches on the field before games at the end of the season he wanted out, something he denied yesterday" What a giant POS. - Sources say Smizzy was caught buggering little boys in the bathroom at the local Dennys. - Sources say Iraq was building a huge WMD collection prior to the war - Sources say that ENRON was a great company and building for the future. (just because it is in print, doesn't mean it is true) BZ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted March 27, 2006 Share Posted March 27, 2006 "Sources say Edwards was telling opposing coaches on the field before games at the end of the season he wanted out, something he denied yesterday" What a giant POS. we played NE twice and Miami during last 5 games of season,, my guess he spoke to Saban and Herm the doof didnt know Saban was on the Belly-tree and it got back to jets via Saban tellin Belly and belly tellin Eric who told Tanny,, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted March 27, 2006 Share Posted March 27, 2006 Most NFL coaches, real ones, treat the likes of Gary Meyers like gum of the shoes. An NFL coach spent " a 30-minute conversation" with Gary Meyers. Think about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PETROCK Posted March 27, 2006 Share Posted March 27, 2006 He believes his lies so much that in his mind they become truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted March 27, 2006 Share Posted March 27, 2006 Most NFL coaches, real ones, treat the likes of Gary Meyers like gum of the shoes. An NFL coach spent " a 30-minute conversation" with Gary Meyers. Think about that. Parcells did a whole segment with 60 minutes once. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted March 27, 2006 Share Posted March 27, 2006 Parcells did a whole segment with 60 minutes once. Herm wanted to but they'd have to change the title to 160 Minutes first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BwanaZulia Posted March 27, 2006 Share Posted March 27, 2006 Parcells did a whole segment with 60 minutes once. Did he cry like LT? BZ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted March 27, 2006 Share Posted March 27, 2006 Did he cry like LT? BZ I can't believe you can't recall this. It was the beginning of the 1999 season, and everyone bought into the Jets going to the SB. Parcells had even worked a book deal, to detail the season throughout. In conjunction for publicity, he allowed 60 Minutes to shadow him in training camp and get to his essence. Well, we all now how that season started (Vinny acilles, etc), and the piece was pulled from 60 Minutes, as it was to show week 3 or 4, and the Jets were putrid at that point. It was not relevant. They decided to air the piece towards the end of the season, after the team turned it around and they were able to make tuna out to be a hero anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BwanaZulia Posted March 27, 2006 Share Posted March 27, 2006 I actually did see it... I was just being, well.. you know... a jerk! BZ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted March 27, 2006 Share Posted March 27, 2006 True about Parcells. but at least he had been to 3 and won 2 Super Bowls before rampant egomania had kicked in. And he at least had the sense to hire and keep Bellichick, Crennel, Groh, et al, around him. Edwards surrounded himself with Dickie Curl and Paul Hackett. Need we go on? Edwards was a egomaniac about 2 seonds after getting to Hofstra. And it hasn't ever abated. I've said it before but it's still true-the way he talks you would think he and Dungy had the shelves collapse under the weight of al the Lombardis they won in Tampa. Edwards is a fake, phony fraud of a coach, and a worse person. He cannot lose enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigJermaineFromQnz Posted March 27, 2006 Share Posted March 27, 2006 Herm is a mastermind. just uhhh... not when it comes to football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Preston Howley III Posted March 27, 2006 Share Posted March 27, 2006 “I don’t really run into a problem having young players play, obviously. That doesn’t bother me. I’ve obviously done that in Tampa. I’ve done that in New York, obviously. I’m going to do it here. If a young player is ready to play, if he’s the best player, if he’s the coachable player, if he’s the available player, if he’s buying into what we ask him to do, he’s going to blah blah blah blah obviously. Available players get to play. If a player is available, he ready to win with his will, not his skill. We're looking for availabilty and accountability, obviously. If your a young player, thats great. If your a veteran, thats great too. Superfragalisticexpialidocious. Two all beef patties, special souce, hold the onions, go heavy on the pickles can I get an Amen." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dickkotite Posted March 27, 2006 Share Posted March 27, 2006 - Sources say Smizzy was caught buggering little boys in the bathroom at the local Dennys. - Sources say Iraq was building a huge WMD collection prior to the war - Sources say that ENRON was a great company and building for the future. (just because it is in print, doesn't mean it is true) BZ carpet man, you know that there is a little truth to everything. stop making herm out to be an angel. he has proved to be bit o f a clown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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