Brock Bowers Already on track to be better than Gronk

[Rich Thornburgh]

16 minutes ago, Joe W. Namath said:

Another waste of a thread along w/ the reddick thread.  Who cares about brock bowers?

The Jets are good and we cant accept that so lets waste our time in these pointless threads.

Jet fans......

Either you think Brock Bowers is the greatest tight end to ever play football or you’re a know nothing who only got up to JV football in high school

[Jack Straw]

2 minutes ago, Rich Thornburgh said:

Based on that logic Matt Leinart and Mike Williams should have both been NFL hall of famers

Just stop. 

[JiFtheOracle]

3 minutes ago, Rich Thornburgh said:

Based on that logic Matt Leinart and Mike Williams should have both been NFL hall of famers

Nobody ever, ever, ever, ever, said Leinart or Mike Williams were generational talents at their position.  Never. Ever. never

[Rich Thornburgh]

3 minutes ago, Jack Straw said:

Just stop. 

 

1 minute ago, JiFtheOracle said:

Nobody ever, ever, ever, ever, said Leinart or Mike Williams were generational talents at their position.  Never. Ever. never

Say the brocktologists who sound like wind up dolls every other post “ignore his lack of size and speed look at his tape from college”

[bicketybam]

Now this is getting good!

[slats]

Just now, JiFtheOracle said:

Nobody ever, ever, ever, ever, said Leinart or Mike Williams were generational talents at their position.  Never. Ever. never

Kyle Pitts was more generational than this guy, and we see how that’s gone. Bowers will prove to have been overdrafted, just like every other first round TE. I am not worried about this, and find your premature victory laps highly amusing. There are currently only eight TEs in the NFL HoF, and they all averaged more than 10.9 ypc and also scored TDs. Brock’s most important stat on this legendary start to his illustrious gold jacket career is simply this: targets. 

[JiFtheOracle]

8 minutes ago, Rich Thornburgh said:

 

Say the brocktologists who sound like wind up dolls every other post “ignore his lack of size and speed look at his tape from college”

ummmm, no, we're saying his size and athleticism are more than adequate to be awesome, like he is.

[JiFtheOracle]

5 minutes ago, slats said:

Kyle Pitts was more generational than this guy, and we see how that’s gone. Bowers will prove to have been overdrafted, just like every other first round TE. I am not worried about this, and find your premature victory laps highly amusing. There are currently only eight TEs in the NFL HoF, and they all averaged more than 10.9 ypc and also scored TDs. Brock’s most important stat on this legendary start to his illustrious gold jacket career is simply this: targets. 

You're telling a Gator fan who hasnt missed a game since, I dont knew when, about what Kyle Pitts is/was vs. Brock Bowers and you dont watch college Football. 

lol

[Jack Straw]

Kyle Pitts was more generational than this guy, and we see how that’s gone. Bowers will prove to have been overdrafted, just like every other first round TE. I am not worried about this, and find your premature victory laps highly amusing. There are currently only eight TEs in the NFL HoF, and they all averaged more than 10.9 ypc and also scored TDs. Brock’s most important stat on this legendary start to his illustrious gold jacket career is simply this: targets. 

Bowers is the 25th most targeted player in the NFL and 2nd on the Raiders.

He’s 18/21, catching 86% of his targets. Weird to flex on this but OK.


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[JoeNamathsFurCoat]

1 hour ago, TuscanyTile2 said:

I'm happy with Olu, especially considering Tyron is on a 1 year deal (and Moses is not young).  But I'll make a more generic argument that having a weapon of that caliber (assuming Bowers lives up to billing) at a position that not a lot of teams have a comparable at could potentially be very advantageous.  

None of it matters if your QB is in the hospital because your RT is a freaking turnstile.

You could have prime Gronk out there.

Without a healthy, protected Rodgers in the pocket, there’s nothing — the season is over.

Even looking beyond this year, neither old men Tyron nor Moses are under contract beyond this season.

[Gastineau Lives]

11 minutes ago, Rich Thornburgh said:

 

Say the brocktologists who sound like wind up dolls every other post “ignore his lack of size and speed look at his tape from college”

Only a handful of people said that and all of them post here

[slats]

2 minutes ago, Jack Straw said:

 

Bowers is the 25th most targeted player in the NFL and 2nd on the Raiders.

He’s 18/21, catching 86% of his targets. Weird to flex on this but OK.


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So as the second target on the Raiders, he has more targets than the leading target getter on seven NFL teams, but okay. 

[Gastineau Lives]

1 minute ago, JoeNamathsFurCoat said:

None of it matters if your QB is in the hospital because your RT is a freaking turnstile.

You could have prime Gronk out there.

Without a healthy, protected Rodgers in the pocket, there’s nothing — the season is over.

Even looking beyond this year, neither old men Tyron nor Moses are under contract beyond this season.

Oh the hysterics 

[Sperm Edwards]

24 minutes ago, Gastineau Lives said:

My thread proposals:

Jets Are Awesome But Just HOW Awesome Are They

Going On Vacation: Italy or Met Life/East Rutherford HELP ME DECIDE

Woody Is The Handsomest Owner In Sports (Next To Chris)

Bald Is Beautiful (Non Pretzel Version)

Have You HAD The Nachos At MetLife

Giant Air Conditioners: Where Football Stadiums Are Going

 

 

 

 

I had another thread I was going to start about books/memoirs authored by Jets HCs from the last 25 years. I don't remember them all but off the top of my head some were along the lines of:

I Once Took a Dump in Neil O'Donnell's Helmet, and Other Tuna Tales - Bill Parcells

How to Lose Friends and Influence Nobody - Eric Mangini

I Think I Can See My Ears - Adam Gase

Secrets to Successfully Concealing and Overcoming One's Murderous Rage - Todd Bowles

Offhand I forget the ones I had for Rex + Groh + Saleh

[Gastineau Lives]

1 minute ago, Sperm Edwards said:

I had another thread I was going to start about books/memoirs authored by Jets HCs from the last 25 years. I don't remember them all but off the top of my head some were along the lines of:

I Once Took a Dump in Neil O'Donnell's Helmet, and Other Tuna Tales - Bill Parcells

How to Lose Friends and Influence Nobody - Eric Mangini

I Think I Can See My Ears - Adam Gase

Secrets to Successfully Concealing and Overcoming One's Murderous Rage - Todd Bowles

Offhand I forget the ones I had for Rex + Groh + Saleh

I smell a partnership in the making

[TuscanyTile2]

11 minutes ago, JoeNamathsFurCoat said:

None of it matters if your QB is in the hospital because your RT is a freaking turnstile.

You could have prime Gronk out there.

Without a healthy, protected Rodgers in the pocket, there’s nothing — the season is over.

Even looking beyond this year, neither old men Tyron nor Moses are under contract beyond this season.

Agreed.  But didn't I make almost all of these points in the post you responded to?

[Jack Straw]

So as the second target on the Raiders, he has more targets than the leading target getter on seven NFL teams, but okay. 

So it’s a problem that a player — checks notes — gets open and — checks notes again — catches everything in his direction?

Got it, slats.

[TuscanyTile2]

32 minutes ago, JiFtheOracle said:

Nobody ever, ever, ever, ever, said Leinart or Mike Williams were generational talents at their position.  Never. Ever. never

I found one! 

[TuscanyTile2]

I have a theory that all of this infighting is due to the Jets having 10 days between games.  

[Rich Thornburgh]

19 hours ago, Jack Straw said:

 

Bowers is the 25th most targeted player in the NFL and 2nd on the Raiders.

He’s 18/21, catching 86% of his targets. Weird to flex on this but OK.


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Ofcourse he gets targets.  Minshew is a crappy check down artist who doesn’t throw downfield that’s why Davante Adams is desperate to get out of there

[Rich Thornburgh]

19 hours ago, TuscanyTile2 said:

I have a theory that all of this infighting is due to the Jets having 10 days between games.  

Zach is 3 months away from being gone forever so they need a new guy

[HessStation]

Nobody is as good at this…

 

[bicketybam]

Brock Bowers is a good little player. Reminds me of this guy as he chugs along.

Go little buddy, go!