Untouchable Posted March 23, 2008 Share Posted March 23, 2008 1st round: OLB Vernon Gholston - Ohio State Oakland snatches McFadden at #4 so the Jets take the dynamic passrusher. Pace and Gholston coupled on the outside is scary. The Jets are really starting to look like a 2 gap 3-4 with this move. 2nd round: DE Dre Moore - Maryland Shaun Ellis is getting long in the tooth and we need to be looking for more talent on the D-line. Moore has the ideal size (6'4 312) and skill set to be a Ty Warren-esque presence at 3-4 DE. 4th round: WR Eddie Royal - Virginia Tech Royal would fit in perfectly as our speedster in the slot. Has hands of glue, runs crisp routes, and gives added value as a top notch returnman. Was the Hokies go-to guy on offense for the past two years. 4th round: OT Barry Richardson - Clemson Damien Woody is a very nice stop-gap at RT, but the Jets still need a prospect to groom as his replacement. Barry was considered a late 1st/early 2nd round selection in September but injuries have hurt his stock. Could see a nice battle between Richardson and Bender for the starting job down the road. 2008 Starting Lineup QB Kellen Clemens RB Thomas Jones FB Tony Richardson WR Laveranues Coles WR Jerricho Cotchery TE Chris Baker LT D'Brickashaw Ferguson LG Alan Faneca C Nick Mangold RG Brandon Moore RT Damien Woody DE Shaun Ellis/Dre Moore NT Kris Jenkins DE Kenyon Coleman OLB Calvin Pace ILB David Harris ILB Eric Barton/Bryan Thomas OLB Vernon Gholston CB Darrelle Revis CB Justin Miller/Andre Woolfolk FS Kerry Rhodes SS Abram Elam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardJetsFan Posted March 24, 2008 Share Posted March 24, 2008 Im not excited about Justin Miller OR David Barrett as our #2 CB in the secondary, I would much rather take the best CB on the board in the 2nd round before Dre Moore And if we were to draft CB in the 2nd, I would be all for the Eddie Royal pick in the 4th round for our Slot WR position, he's gonna be special and with our 2nd 4th rounder, I would mucher rather go for the best IMLB and focus on the O-Line and D-Line in the later rounds Good mock though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardJetsFan Posted March 24, 2008 Share Posted March 24, 2008 Any chance that OLB/DE Quentin Groves, Auburn can fall into the 2nd round? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetsfan420 Posted March 24, 2008 Share Posted March 24, 2008 Any chance that OLB/DE Quentin Groves, Auburn can fall into the 2nd round? It's unlikely but is definitely a possibility. Many thought David Harris would be a 1st round pick, sometimes people just fall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardJetsFan Posted March 24, 2008 Share Posted March 24, 2008 It's unlikely but is definitely a possibility. Many thought David Harris would be a 1st round pick, sometimes people just fall. The two players im really wishing that fall to the second round would be Kenny Phillips and Groves. Either way, one of those two players would be a great pickup for the Jets in round 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SayNoToDMC Posted March 24, 2008 Share Posted March 24, 2008 The two players im really wishing that fall to the second round would be Kenny Phillips and Groves. Either way, one of those two players would be a great pickup for the Jets in round 2 Sound's like from his Wonderlic Kenny Philips is an idiot. We already have a retard who hit's hard in Elam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LionelRichie Posted March 24, 2008 Share Posted March 24, 2008 you can't just arbitrarily move b thomas to ILB. he either plays OLB, sits the bench, or gets cut - you can't just change his position b/c you feel like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardJetsFan Posted March 24, 2008 Share Posted March 24, 2008 Sound's like from his Wonderlic Kenny Philips is an idiot. We already have a retard who hit's hard in Elam. Kenny Phillips is by far the best safety in the draft, it doesnt matter how he did on that test, he can play on the field, thats all that matters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SayNoToDMC Posted March 24, 2008 Share Posted March 24, 2008 you can't just arbitrarily move b thomas to ILB. he either plays OLB, sits the bench, or gets cut - you can't just change his position b/c you feel like it. Won't really know till we try..... Though I think Pace is the one we should switch to ILB if we get Gholston. We switched his position once already and he had the best season of his career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoachTsurfing Posted March 24, 2008 Share Posted March 24, 2008 Any chance that OLB/DE Quentin Groves, Auburn can fall into the 2nd round? I think he will fall, but probably not to us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
will Posted March 24, 2008 Share Posted March 24, 2008 The two players im really wishing that fall to the second round would be Kenny Phillips and Groves. Either way, one of those two players would be a great pickup for the Jets in round 2 Ahhh .. but what if the Jets have drafted Gholston and then Groves is there for them at #36? That would sort of suck. Anyway, I love the Moore pick in the second round. I think Ellis is as weak a link as Barrett/Miller/Coleman, and I dont much care for any of those guys - I just dislike Ellis more. And seriously upgrading the front seven cannot but help the secondary, such as it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardJetsFan Posted March 24, 2008 Share Posted March 24, 2008 Ahhh .. but what if the Jets have drafted Gholston and then Groves is there for them at #36? That would sort of suck. Anyway, I love the Moore pick in the second round. I think Ellis is as weak a link as Barrett/Miller/Coleman, and I dont much care for any of those guys - I just dislike Ellis more. And seriously upgrading the front seven cannot but help the secondary, such as it is. Well if we draft Gholston at #6, Groves would be out of the picture But I have to agree to disagree on Ellis. Ellis may not be a good fit for the 4-3 as of right now in his career, but he's like the perfect de in the 3-4 in terms of stuffing the run. He played pretty good last season with Robertson at NT, I cant wait till he plays alongside Jenkins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted March 24, 2008 Share Posted March 24, 2008 Well if we draft Gholston at #6, Groves would be out of the picture But I have to agree to disagree on Ellis. Ellis may not be a good fit for the 4-3 as of right now in his career, but he's like the perfect de in the 3-4 in terms of stuffing the run. He played pretty good last season with Robertson at NT, I cant wait till he plays alongside Jenkins Is that a joke???? Ellis was ****ing awful last season. He's a terrible 3-4 End. He can't cope with being doubled at all. He and Bryan Thomas were basically ghosts out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted March 24, 2008 Share Posted March 24, 2008 I like how your finding Ellis's replacement for the future but I would LOVE for us to possibly draft a safety. I know that's not a major need, but I highly dislike this Elam kid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardJetsFan Posted March 24, 2008 Share Posted March 24, 2008 Is that a joke???? Ellis was ****ing awful last season. He's a terrible 3-4 End. He can't cope with being doubled at all. He and Bryan Thomas were basically ghosts out there. LE's in the 3-4 D really NEVER put up huge numbers. Ellis played solid last year playing next to ROBERTSON! Like 50 tackles and 5 sacks Ty Warren for the Patriots only had 53 tackles with 4 sacks, playing next to Wilfrok So No, its not a joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardJetsFan Posted March 24, 2008 Share Posted March 24, 2008 I like how your finding Ellis's replacement for the future but I would LOVE for us to possibly draft a safety. I know that's not a major need, but I highly dislike this Elam kid. Im prolly the biggest Kenny Phillips fan on this site, he's amazing, I agree with you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted March 24, 2008 Share Posted March 24, 2008 LE's in the 3-4 D really NEVER put up huge numbers. Ellis played solid last year playing next to ROBERTSON! Like 50 tackles and 5 sacks Ty Warren for the Patriots only had 53 tackles with 4 sacks, playing next to Wilfrok So No, its not a joke. No, Coleman played solid. He was able to hold his own on the line. Ellis and Robertson were awful and were spending more time getting pushed 10 yards downfield than anything else. Stats mean nothing like you said, so don't even mention them. I'm basing my opinions on how he was constantly dominated on the line and how he was easily pushed away from the play. I don't rate him at all and can't wait until we find a replacement for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardJetsFan Posted March 24, 2008 Share Posted March 24, 2008 No, Coleman played solid. He was able to hold his own on the line. Ellis and Robertson were awful and were spending more time getting pushed 10 yards downfield than anything else. Stats mean nothing like you said, so don't even mention them. I'm basing my opinions on how he was constantly dominated on the line and how he was easily pushed away from the play. I don't rate him at all and can't wait until we find a replacement for him. Jenkins will take up double teams and allow Ellis to make the plays needed for a 3-4 DE. Stats may not be everything but at the same time Ellis had 5 sacks and Coleman only had 1 I dont now about you, but I know im excited about Ellis next to Jenkins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SayNoToDMC Posted March 24, 2008 Share Posted March 24, 2008 LE's in the 3-4 D really NEVER put up huge numbers. Ellis played solid last year playing next to ROBERTSON! Like 50 tackles and 5 sacks Ty Warren for the Patriots only had 53 tackles with 4 sacks, playing next to Wilfrok So No, its not a joke. Ellis Sucked, You either didn't watch him last year or have no understanding of the 3-4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted March 24, 2008 Share Posted March 24, 2008 Ellis Sucked LOL, word!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardJetsFan Posted March 24, 2008 Share Posted March 24, 2008 Ellis Sucked, You either didn't watch him last year or have no understanding of the 3-4 Ellis didnt have a 3-4 NT, which is the HEART of a 3-4 Defense. Maybe your the one who doesnt "Understand" how the 3-4 works Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted March 24, 2008 Share Posted March 24, 2008 Ellis didnt have a 3-4 NT, which is the HEART of a 3-4 Defense. Maybe your the one who doesnt "Understand" how the 3-4 works I agree that he was playing in bad circumstances but I've never been a huge fan of Ellis. Even in the 4-3 I thought he dissapeared way too often. He's still very small for a 3-4 End doesn't command double blocking, which all 3-4 lineman should. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SayNoToDMC Posted March 24, 2008 Share Posted March 24, 2008 Ellis didnt have a 3-4 NT, which is the HEART of a 3-4 Defense. Maybe your the one who doesnt "Understand" how the 3-4 works He still wouldn't be a 3-4 DE if the Stay Puft marshmallow man was our NT. By your reasoning Ellis was a much better then Coleman, and Drob is as good or better then Wilfork. Stats don't mean **** in the 3-4. Ellis can't hold his own on the line and he doesn't belong in this scheme, I would love to see him replaced. He wasn't even anything special in the 4-3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted March 24, 2008 Share Posted March 24, 2008 He still wouldn't be a 3-4 DE if the Stay Puft marshmallow man was our NT. By your reasoning Ellis was a much better then Coleman, and Drob is as good or better then Wilfork. Stats don't mean **** in the 3-4. Ellis can't hold his own on the line and he doesn't belong in this scheme, I would love to see him replaced. He wasn't even anything special in the 4-3. Agree with everything. Like Vilma and obertson, he's undersized and gets blown up way too easy and way too often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
will Posted March 24, 2008 Share Posted March 24, 2008 Ellis didnt have a 3-4 NT, which is the HEART of a 3-4 Defense. Maybe your the one who doesnt "Understand" how the 3-4 works OK. None of us are experts. It seems to me that Ellis gets routinely pushed around (except for the PIT game where he played some OLB and was the exception that proves the rule). Robertson was not so bad that everyone else has a built in excuse to get pushed around. In any event, we can all agree that another DE for rotational purposes and depth couldnt hurt. It all starts on the D-line. I'd rather build from the inside out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted March 24, 2008 Share Posted March 24, 2008 I'd just like to note that Untouchable is the clear record-setter for mock drafts/offseasons. There were 8 of these in the last 2 months of the season & this is the 11th one in the last 4 months. This must be the record. A record I would classify as Untouchable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
124 Posted March 24, 2008 Share Posted March 24, 2008 I would take this four round mock and run away with it. The only thing the Jets would have to worry about in '08 would be who the QB would be and how he would be perform. If the answer was anywhere near good and mistake free (for the most part) for how he would play, the Jets would be legit contenders in the AFC in 2008. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted March 24, 2008 Share Posted March 24, 2008 I would take this four round mock and run away with it. The only thing the Jets would have to worry about in '08 would be who the QB would be and how he would be perform. If the answer was anywhere near good and mistake free (for the most part) for how he would play, the Jets would be legit contenders in the AFC in 2008. Agreed. So much relies on the QB play this season, it will be the difference between us being a Contender or Top 10 draft pick. Whoever it is though, they're in a much, much better situation than 2007. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
124 Posted March 24, 2008 Share Posted March 24, 2008 Agreed. So much relies on the QB play this season, it will be the difference between us being a Contender or Top 10 draft pick. Whoever it is though, they're in a much, much better situation than 2007. And you and ecurb will just continue to be d'bags, no matter if its 2008 or 2007. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted March 24, 2008 Share Posted March 24, 2008 And you and ecurb will just continue to be d'bags, no matter if its 2008 or 2007. Yes, but accordingly ecurb will do it a lot less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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