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Does anyone know if after 2 years of employment without an annual salary, is the employee entitled after 2 years of at least a 2% raise? State Law?

Any info would be appreciated...

As long as you make more than min wage then no, your company has no obligation to give you a raise, even a cost of living raise. You also have no obligation to stay there.

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The "minimum wage" is Socialism in our country personified. I dig FDR in many ways huge, but perhaps you're only worth one American Dollar per hour? In this market. Ask for a raise and if you don't get it, put out feelers and leave. It's OK to become as rich as possible in the greatest country the world has ever seen. Yeah, it really is.

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Does anyone know if after 2 years of employment without an annual salary, is the employee entitled after 2 years of at least a 2% raise? State Law?

Any info would be appreciated...

It's a free market and you're free to leave. :biggrin: It sucks but thats the reality of it.

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Does anyone know if after 2 years of employment without an annual salary, is the employee entitled after 2 years of at least a 2% raise? State Law?

Any info would be appreciated...

raises and promotions are based on job performance, not duration of service, and that is how it should be. Of course this logic is tossed right out the window if you are part of a union, where it doesn't pay so much to bust your hump more than the next guy. Sounds like that may be the kind of job you are looking for.

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raises and promotions are based on job performance, not duration of service, and that is how it should be. Of course this logic is tossed right out the window if you are part of a union, where it doesn't pay so much to bust your hump more than the next guy. Sounds like that may be the kind of job you are looking for.

The logic is also tossed if the business owner is a cheap-ass mofo who would rather hire new people all the time than pay anybody a living wage.

On balance, unions are a good thing. That's not to say they aren't abused.

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The logic is also tossed if the business owner is a cheap-ass mofo who would rather hire new people all the time than pay anybody a living wage.

On balance, unions are a good thing. That's not to say they aren't abused.

When unions were originally formed I think they were a necessity. Nowadays, with so much competition and opportunities, I really don't see the need for them any more.
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raises and promotions are based on job performance, not duration of service, and that is how it should be. Of course this logic is tossed right out the window if you are part of a union, where it doesn't pay so much to bust your hump more than the next guy. Sounds like that may be the kind of job you are looking for.

Been here 17 years . major company and was a supervisor for 8 , dept dismembered and was put into a non supervisor position , hence my pay scale is too high for the non sup position.

so no raise ever again unless I become Mgmt again.

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Been here 17 years . major company and was a supervisor for 8 , dept dismembered and was put into a non supervisor position , hence my pay scale is too high for the non sup position.

so no raise ever again unless I become Mgmt again.

That's a tough sitch, man. Might be time to make a switch, or at least use leaving as a threat if they refuse to offer some sort of raise. Obviously, you need to be prepared to walk if this tactic doesn't work.

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The logic is also tossed if the business owner is a cheap-ass mofo who would rather hire new people all the time than pay anybody a living wage.

Depends on the situation, I s'pose. This is true for a lot of unskilled labor (i.e. McDonalds, etc.), but not necessarily for skilled or professional labor. It could cost a comapny much more money to go through the interviewing/hiring/training process than it would to simply give a 4% COLA.

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Depends on the situation, I s'pose. This is true for a lot of unskilled labor (i.e. McDonalds, etc.), but not necessarily for skilled or professional labor. It could cost a comapny much more money to go through the interviewing/hiring/training process than it would to simply give a 4% COLA.

Not really, many times they need someone who is skilled, but not necessarilly very experienced. They hire someone right out of college, use them for a couple years, don't offer raises, and then when asked for one, they show them the door, hire a new person and the cycle begins again. It happens quite a bit really.

Its not the 4% cost of living adjustment that saves them the money, its never having to give a raise, ever. instead of someone getting a raise every few years, they just get another person. they can constantly have low wages because they are constantly hiring new folks out of college.

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Not really, many times they need someone who is skilled, but not necessarilly very experienced. They hire someone right out of college, use them for a couple years, don't offer raises, and then when asked for one, they show them the door, hire a new person and the cycle begins again. It happens quite a bit really.

Its not the 4% cost of living adjustment that saves them the money, its never having to give a raise, ever. instead of someone getting a raise every few years, they just get another person. they can constantly have low wages because they are constantly hiring new folks out of college.

Again, depends on the situation. I don't know A-Zone's sitch or what he does, but after 17 years at the same company, I think it would be rather difficult to replace him with a new college grad, regardless of whether or not he's currently in mgmt.

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