DonCorleone Posted March 18, 2009 Share Posted March 18, 2009 Hold off on the Jay Cutler trade talk -- for now. A source close to one team that has inquired with the Broncos about the unhappy quarterback tells me the Broncos have told them they're hanging on to Cutler and won't entertain discussions for him at this time. That's a natural thing for the Broncos to say. They can't give Cutler or his agent, Bus Cook, a shred of evidence that they want to move him until coach Josh McDaniels is convinced beyond a shadow of a doubt the relationship with Cutler is not fixable. But it's probably more likely than unlikely the Broncos will find the situation can't be remedied, in my opinion. So I do expect Denver's tune to change sometime between now and the April 25 draft, and I do expect Cutler to be traded. I expect the usual suspects to line up for Cutler -- Detroit, Cleveland, San Francisco, Tennessee and perhaps Carolina, though the Panthers, without a first-round pick in the 2009 draft, will be at a severe disadvantage. But I don't think he'll end up in one of those spots unless Detroit offers the 20th and 33rd picks of the draft, and a player sweetener, straight up for him. I expect the most fervent suitors to be Tampa Bay and the New York Jets. The Broncos pick 12th in the first round, right in the wheelhouse for a draft expected to be full of very good first-round prospects because of the influx of so many good juniors; I'm told that this draft could produce as many as 20 junior-eligible players drafted in the first round. Tampa Bay picks 19th in the first round. The Jets pick 17th. Those teams know that acquiring Cutler, if he's dealt, will require that first-round pick, plus more. I think both teams would pay more. For the record, Tampa Bay has traded its second-round pick in the deal for Kellen Winslow, and so has only the 19th and 81st overall picks in the first three rounds. The Bucs may well have to involve a high 2010 draft choice to get a deal done. The Jets hold the 17th, 52nd and 76th picks in the first three rounds, much better ammo to get something done. The Bucs are veterans in the chase for Cutler, having pursued him the day before free-agency began, dangling their first-round pick plus something in a package for Cutler. They also have an offensive scheme under new coordinator Jeff Jagodzinski that resembles the system Mike Shanahan ran in Denver, and a defensive coordinator, Jim Bates, who's the father of Cutler's offensive coordinator last year in Denver, Jeremy Bates. Cutler and Jeremy Bates were close, and those close to Cutler believe the Broncos' decision to not retain Bates is a part of his dissatisfaction. The Jets proved last year they'll stop at nothing to get what they want. What they wanted last year was Brett Favre, who turned out to be a one-year fix that cost New York its third-round pick in the 2009 draft. What they'll want this year would be, they hope, a 10-year fix, and would cost far, far more. Owner Woody Johnson and GM Mike Tannenbaum will not be intimidated by the price for Cutler. I think New York, at the end of the day, will be tempted to pay more for Cutler than anyone else. Would Denver be swayed by a package of first- and second-round picks, plus either of the young New York quarterbacks -- Brett Ratliff or Kellen Clemens? I believe it may come to that. But first, you can bet McDaniels will do everything in his power to sit down alone with Cutler sometime in the next couple of weeks. If that happens, he might be able to save the relationship. But I don't think so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackout Posted March 18, 2009 Share Posted March 18, 2009 lets get him and Marshall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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JonEJet Posted March 18, 2009 Share Posted March 18, 2009 I just can't see getting the deal done with one of our QB's in return.....far too unproven Whereas if the Browns, or the Bills send back Quinn or Edwards, it is much more attractive of a deal for The Broncos Wishful thinking, just don;t see it happening....Tanny f-ed up when he could have had him drafted him #4 a few years ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackout Posted March 18, 2009 Share Posted March 18, 2009 chris simms was a bum, yes. people on here used to make gay jokes about him lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted March 18, 2009 Share Posted March 18, 2009 I just can't see getting the deal done with one of our QB's in return.....far too unproven Whereas if the Browns, or the Bills send back Quinn or Edwards, it is much more attractive of a deal for The Broncos Wishful thinking, just don;t see it happening....Tanny f-ed up when he could have had him drafted him #4 a few years ago gotta have faith we will have a big firefly party when it goes down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SoFlaJets Posted March 18, 2009 Share Posted March 18, 2009 http://www.jetnation.com/forums/showthread.php?t=73207 funny how King says the same 2 teams that were in the final mix for Favre are the same teams he now sees as the frontrunners in the Cutler sweepstakes-IF Denver stays on the Crazy Train and decides to jettison one of the best QB's in the Conference-I hope they do because like last summer, Mikey T will outbid Tampa Bay again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
124 Posted March 18, 2009 Share Posted March 18, 2009 http://www.jetnation.com/forums/showthread.php?t=73207 funny how King says the same 2 teams that were in the final mix for Favre are the same teams he now sees as the frontrunners in the Cutler sweepstakes-IF Denver stays on the Crazy Train and decides to jettison one of the best QB's in the Conference-I hope they do because like last summer, Mikey T will outbid Tampa Bay again. Now you want Cutler? Make up your mind Jimmy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackout Posted March 18, 2009 Share Posted March 18, 2009 Like we do to you? here we go with the personal attacks again this guy just HAS TO follow all of my posts. wow what a life you have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoFlaJets Posted March 18, 2009 Share Posted March 18, 2009 I just can't see getting the deal done with one of our QB's in return.....far too unproven Whereas if the Browns, or the Bills send back Quinn or Edwards, it is much more attractive of a deal for The Broncos Wishful thinking, just don;t see it happening....Tanny f-ed up when he could have had him drafted him #4 a few years ago hey Jon E-on the news this morning and last night was a story about a 13 year old kid who caught an 8 foot bull shark off of Singer Island http://www.cbs12.com/ for some reason (weather?) the video isn't showing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoFlaJets Posted March 18, 2009 Share Posted March 18, 2009 Now you want Cutler? Make up your mind Jimmy. what I want is whatever Rex Ryan wants Joe-I always give a new HC the benefit of the doubt. If Ryan feels he can get the Jets to the White House to meet Obama then thats what I want too. I'm OK if he thinks he can get there with either Clemens or Ratliff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
124 Posted March 18, 2009 Share Posted March 18, 2009 what I want is whatever Rex Ryan wants Joe-I always give a new HC the benefit of the doubt. If Ryan feels he can get the Jets to the White House to meet Obama then thats what I want too. I'm OK if he thinks he can get there with Clemens.. just not Brett UPS Ratliff There you go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoFlaJets Posted March 18, 2009 Share Posted March 18, 2009 And that means something? yea really, we make gay jokes about everybody Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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