MagicBizkit87 Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 We have to have someone for tomorrow don't we? You want to use the whole bullpen today on a game that is already lost. Why not bring in Robertson, or Albaladejo, them unlike Veras, and Marte actually throws strikes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vudu Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 We have to have someone for tomorrow don't we? You want to use the whole bullpen today on a game that is already lost. He wasted 2 relievers when he didnt have to, too much scheming and over managing. This is the second game he's mismanaged the bullpen, regardless of what YOU think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morrissey Posted April 16, 2009 Author Share Posted April 16, 2009 Why not bring in Robertson, or Albaladejo, them unlike Veras, and Marte actually throws strikes. Because someone needs to be available tomorrow. The game was lost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morrissey Posted April 16, 2009 Author Share Posted April 16, 2009 He wasted 2 relievers when he didnt have to, too much scheming and over managing. This is the second game he's mismanaged the bullpen, regardless of what YOU think. Oh, so what YOU think is more important than what anyone else thinks? Got ya.. I'll keep that in mind for future references. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vicious89x Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 We have to have someone for tomorrow don't we? You want to use the whole bullpen today on a game that is already lost. 4-1 isn't LOST man. That's what I'm saying. That's loser mentality in my opinion. Now it is for sure, put in whoever you want Joe. So Ramirez, Coke, Veras wouldn't be available because they pitched too much? I'm complaining about his choice to leave Damaso Suckass in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagicBizkit87 Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 Girardi needs to realize this is how he has to manage his bullpen: Relievers you could trust: Mo Bruney Coke (even with rough start) Edwar (he's on my good side now) Relievers undecided right now, but better options then your last options: Robertson Albaladejo Relievers you cant use in big situations: Veras Marte Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyHector Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 Because someone needs to be available tomorrow. The game was lost. He could've put Melky out in RF and brought Swisher in to pitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vudu Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 Oh, so what YOU think is more important than what anyone else things? Got ya.. I'll keep that in mind for future references. No, but you're being condescending for no reason like your opinion is the only one thats valid in here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagicBizkit87 Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 Because someone needs to be available tomorrow. The game was lost. So when it was 1-1, when he brought in Jose Veras, the game was lost? When the idiot manager made the choice to bring in him rather then bringing in someone like Robertson, or leaving Phil Coke in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vudu Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 Hopefully we'll bounce back tomorrow, we did the last time we got embarassed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morrissey Posted April 16, 2009 Author Share Posted April 16, 2009 No, but you're being condescending for no reason like your opinion is the only one thats valid in here. I'm being condescending? You just said it doesn't matter what "YOU" think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vicious89x Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 He could've put Melky out in RF and brought Swisher in to pitch. LOL They just said on the radio they were chanting "We want Swisher" at Marte. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morrissey Posted April 16, 2009 Author Share Posted April 16, 2009 So when it was 1-1, when he brought in Jose Veras, the game was lost? When the idiot manager made the choice to bring in him rather then bringing in someone like Robertson, or leaving Phil Coke in? Veras proved last season he can handle the 7th inning. Obviously he didn't today, but he was solid last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil Bit Special Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 Calm down Yankee fans... You're acting like Mets fans. There's always tomorrow. <object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value=" "></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src=" " type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vudu Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 Rally? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morrissey Posted April 16, 2009 Author Share Posted April 16, 2009 Calm down Yankee fans... You're acting like Mets fans. There's always tomorrow. <object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value=" "></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src=" " type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object> +5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagicBizkit87 Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 Veras proved last season he can handle the 7th inning. Obviously he didn't today, but he was solid last season. Really? So his 1.41 WHIP, which is extremely high for a reliever proved that he could handle the 7th inning? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morrissey Posted April 16, 2009 Author Share Posted April 16, 2009 Really? So his 1.41 WHIP, which is extremely high for a reliever proved that he could handle the 7th inning? Obviously he walks too many guys, but more times than not, he got the job done last season, but you need to relax, you get too worked up on a few innings. Plus I'm sure Melancon will be up soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vicious89x Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 Calm down Yankee fans... You're acting like Mets fans. There's always tomorrow. <object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value=" "></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src=" " type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object> Yup. I was just saying that regardless of the fact perhaps had things been managed differently we wouldn't need to think of it like that. That's baseball. It's a long grind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagicBizkit87 Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 Obviously he walks too many guys, but more times than not, he got the job done last season, but you need to relax, you get too worked up on a few innings. Plus I'm sure Melancon will be up soon. I am relaxed, I just realize that this guy Veras is a joke, and he needs to go. You can always tell whose a good pitcher, and a bad one by their WHIP. Bruney got that down, Veras has a 1.41 WHIP which like I said is extremely high for a reliever. Keep this in mind as well, Edwar Ramirez has been kind of known as wild as well, and his WHIP is like .20 lower then Veras. How does this not prove that Veras is a joke? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morrissey Posted April 16, 2009 Author Share Posted April 16, 2009 I am relaxed, I just realize that this guy Veras is a joke, and he needs to go. You can always tell whose a good pitcher, and a bad one by their WHIP. Bruney got that down, Veras has a 1.41 WHIP which like I said is extremely high for a reliever. Keep this in mind as well, Edwar Ramirez has been kind of known as wild as well, and his WHIP is like .20 lower then Veras. How does this not prove that Veras is a joke? I like Bruney, but he still has a lot to prove, I wouldn't consider him automatic just yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vudu Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 Cody Ransom blows. If he's the best option we have @ 3rd base until A-Rod comes back its gonna be a longgggg start of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagicBizkit87 Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 I know I was being extremely sarcastic, and a real ass by saying put Wang on waivers with his last two horrible starts, but Jose Veras, and Damaso Marte really are that awful, and need to be elsewhere. Jesus, and I thought with Farnsworth gone, I wouldn't hate anybody this year. Welcome to the club VerAss, and Marte. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagicBizkit87 Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 See the difference between Robertson, and Verass? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morrissey Posted April 16, 2009 Author Share Posted April 16, 2009 See the difference between Robertson, and Verass? 1-1 game 10-2 game See the difference? But you're right, the Yankees should probably start fazing out the guys that walk to many guys (Veras) and giving Robertson more important innnings, and calling up Melancon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagicBizkit87 Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 1-1 game 10-2 game See the difference? Yeah, now tell me who was the guy that made it from a 1-1 game to a 10-2 game? Jose Verass or Dave Robertson? Why can't you just face that facts that Veras is a joke? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morrissey Posted April 16, 2009 Author Share Posted April 16, 2009 Marte has been pretty damn bad with the Yankees, but he has a decent track record... we gotta let him try and right himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morrissey Posted April 16, 2009 Author Share Posted April 16, 2009 Yeah, now tell me who was the guy that made it from a 1-1 game to a 10-2 game? Jose Verass or Dave Robertson? Why can't you just face that facts that Veras is a joke? Veras made it 3-1, Marte made in 10-1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagicBizkit87 Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 Veras made it 3-1, Marte made in 10-1 Veras didn't even record an out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagicBizkit87 Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 Anyone want to make any bets that the Yankees score a couple cheap runs in the 9th, and eventually lose, then they have no runs to score against the crap pitcher they face tomorrow? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morrissey Posted April 16, 2009 Author Share Posted April 16, 2009 Guys have to relax... It's April, we have to see what these guys have, and what they can give us. We don't have have any set guys for innings besides the 9th, though it does look like Bruney has the inside track for the 8th, but after that... who knows. By July I can see Melancon being the 7th inning guy, or maybe even the 8th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagicBizkit87 Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 Guys have to relax... It's April, we have to see what these guys have, and what they can give us. We don't have have any set guys for innings besides the 9th, though it does look like Bruney has the inside track for the 8th, but after that... who knows. By July I can see Melancon being the 7th inning guy, or maybe even the 8th. I don't see why they're wasting him in Triple A. I mean, Melancon would obviously be at least the third best relief pitcher on this team right now, behind Rivera, and Bruney. What is holding them back? Jose, and Damaso's fantastic outings? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vicious89x Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 Guys have to relax... It's April, we have to see what these guys have, and what they can give us. We don't have have any set guys for innings besides the 9th, though it does look like Bruney has the inside track for the 8th, but after that... who knows. By July I can see Melancon being the 7th inning guy, or maybe even the 8th. It's all a matter of opinion. You're more willing to give more rope for people to hang themselves with. I for one am not. There's positives and negatives to each. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morrissey Posted April 16, 2009 Author Share Posted April 16, 2009 I don't see why they're wasting him in Triple A. I mean, Melancon would obviously be at least the third best relief pitcher on this team right now, behind Rivera, and Bruney. What is holding them back? Jose, and Damaso's fantastic outings? To control his innings, he's not far off having Tommy John surgery, and he's only thrown 95 pro innings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagicBizkit87 Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 Robertson is pretty good. He pitched a less amount of pitches in his two innings of work then Veras, and Marte did in their 1 inning of ****ty work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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