RSJ Posted March 7, 2005 Share Posted March 7, 2005 Cite me one example of that. One. I bring news as reported in KFFL threads over here sometimes but I do NOT steal long drawn out diatribes that are thought out by others. That's horse****. I thought you took your skirt and went home? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GimmeShelter Posted March 7, 2005 Author Share Posted March 7, 2005 The point the article was making is that the pre-conceived notion that players and staff alike would turn down greener pastures simply to remain on or join the Pats has been put to rest. Patten-Andruzzi -Brown -Romeo -Weiss- Mason confirms the writers point. The Pats contingent spin the thread into Jet losses such as Ferguson are paramount while missed signings of Mason are business as usual. Nobody is denying the Pats recent greatness but when every other post by some is the "ABC's of kffl GMing 101 it gets old. Especially so when every Jet move is demeaned as incompetent. All the Patriot staff and players that left for cash and better positions was like I said, inevitable and overdue. How it affects next seasons standings remains to be seen. Three out of the last four rings is quite a achievement but some of you, as fans, need to get over yourselves. Remember you simply watched it happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardSeymour Posted March 7, 2005 Share Posted March 7, 2005 I thought you took your skirt and went home? Let me translate from gimpspeak. I was talking out of my *** and making **** up. just to make sure it's clear and PC and all, I mean gimp as in grown man who lives in a hole and wears a fullbody leather suit with a zipper over the mouth. You know, like TomShane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted March 7, 2005 Share Posted March 7, 2005 Let me translate from gimpspeak. Let me translate from homospeak. I'm gay and I have sand in my vagina. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardSeymour Posted March 7, 2005 Share Posted March 7, 2005 Dude you're the one making accusations and aspersions up out of thin air and then not having the sack to back them up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonEJet Posted March 7, 2005 Share Posted March 7, 2005 JonE, keep telling yourself that. Keep telling yourself the loss of Weis and Crennel will be easily replaced by Scarnasecchia/ OC by commitee and Mangiana Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alk Posted March 7, 2005 Share Posted March 7, 2005 I do not believe that the players leaving will have as much of an effect on the Pats as the 2 coordinators will. The Pats front 7 on defense is still excellent at creating mismatches. With the possible exception of MLB. The Pats can match up with any style of offense. The front 7 is really the heart of the Pats D. Now here is the tricky part. The Pats will have a hard time filling those rolls of the players who have left. Yes I know it sounds like a contradiction, but it's not. They will have a hard time replacing these players more than they will miss them per se. The Pats lost a lot of players in terms of numbers. Considering each one fills a niche in thier team. Each one will need to be coached up. That was the key to the Pats success these last 4 years. They threw so many players at you that executed their own niche in the system well, and each did something different. The Pats gave you more than you could possibly prepare for in a given week. This is why I think they will miss their coaches dearly and combined with a large number of players lost it will have its effect. I agree that the coordinators will be the biggest loss. I feel real good about Mangini at DC. I mean Crennel was trying like hell to get him as his DC so that has to say something for the guy not to mention the Dolphins were fighting for him too but their FO is a bunch of morons so that's kind of irrelevant. OC does concern me some. Weis wasn't as good as some of you guys made him out to be but he was good enough that we're going to have a tough time replacing him. It's becoming pretty apparant that there is nobody within the organization that Belichick sees fit to run the system and that concerns me because if we bring in someone from the outside, more than likely our whole offensive system will go out the window. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardSeymour Posted March 7, 2005 Share Posted March 7, 2005 Weis wasn't as good as some of you guys made him out to be but he was good enough that we're going to have a tough time replacing him. It's becoming pretty apparant that there is nobody within the organization that Belichick sees fit to run the system and that concerns me because if we bring in someone from the outside, more than likely our whole offensive system will go out the window. Agreed 100%. I'm pretty sure we WON'T be chucking our offense out the window but the prospect of Belichick sharing OC duties or assuming them full-blown scares the bejeezus out of me because it imposes a severe limit on how much HC work he can do. Alternatively bringing some random *** individual in to run a system he doesn't understand worries me also. I want Scars as OC, mainly because I think he's the only qualified candidate, and I'm willing to take my chances that under Scars tutelege a new OL coach can do a solid job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted March 7, 2005 Share Posted March 7, 2005 I agree that the coordinators will be the biggest loss. I feel real good about Mangini at DC. I mean Crennel was trying like hell to get him as his DC so that has to say something for the guy not to mention the Dolphins were fighting for him too but their FO is a bunch of morons so that's kind of irrelevant. OC does concern me some. Weis wasn't as good as some of you guys made him out to be but he was good enough that we're going to have a tough time replacing him. It's becoming pretty apparant that there is nobody within the organization that Belichick sees fit to run the system and that concerns me because if we bring in someone from the outside, more than likely our whole offensive system will go out the window. Yeah well to find a good OC is not easy. Especially since the Pats ran such a different offense than really any team in the NFL. I don't see the Pats falling off the face of the earth this year but I would say anywhere between 10-6 and 12-4 sounds about right. But the rest of free agency and the draft may change my opinion on which side of those records they will fall on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardSeymour Posted March 7, 2005 Share Posted March 7, 2005 I don't see the Pats falling off the face of the earth this year but I would say anywhere between 10-6 and 12-4 sounds about right. But the rest of free agency and the draft may change my opinion on which side of those records they will fall on. I think it's 50/50 that they fall off to that extent or maintain their status as heavy SB contenders. Definitely a very real possibility that they struggle with new C's, particularly in the first year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garb Posted March 7, 2005 Share Posted March 7, 2005 Did someone just say the Jets have gotten better? Please explain? So, getting Coles makes up for everything? You people are simpletons, really. I'll make it simple for you. Losses: Andruzzi - big whoop! Patten - more big whoop. Law - semi big whoop. :? Brown - very sad big whoop. See, do the smilie icons help you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonEJet Posted March 7, 2005 Share Posted March 7, 2005 I think it's 50/50 that they fall off to that extent or maintain their status as heavy SB contenders. Definitely a very real possibility that they struggle with new C's, particularly in the first year. RS The Pats were a nice little team But never, ever should they be compared to San Fran Dallas Pittsburgh Nice little run, that is done now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garb Posted March 7, 2005 Share Posted March 7, 2005 RS The Pats were a nice little team But never, ever should they be compared to San Fran Dallas Pittsburgh Nice little run, that is done now You forgot to add these two words to that last sentence: I hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardSeymour Posted March 7, 2005 Share Posted March 7, 2005 RS The Jets are a nice little team But never, ever should they be compared to San Fran Dallas Pittsburgh New England Miami Tampa Bay Baltimore Green Bay Denver Kansas City Oakland St. Louis New York (N) Washington Chicago Wish we'd had a run in the last 35 years. Oh no, now Smizzy's going to call me an ***hole again.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted March 7, 2005 Share Posted March 7, 2005 Did someone just say the Jets have gotten better? Please explain? So, getting Coles makes up for everything? You people are simpletons, really. I'll make it simple for you. Losses: Garb - big whoop! Patten - more big whoop. Law - semi big whoop. :? Brown - very sad big whoop. See, do the smilie icons help you? There I fixed it for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garb Posted March 7, 2005 Share Posted March 7, 2005 Funny stuff! The kid has a sense of humor! Seriously, your opinions blow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted March 7, 2005 Share Posted March 7, 2005 Funny stuff! The kid has a sense of humor! Seriously, your opinions blow. From you, I take that as a compliment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardSeymour Posted March 7, 2005 Share Posted March 7, 2005 and honestly JonE, two things.... 1) Dallas I think is on the table (at least one dynasty Cowboys player came out and said he thought what the Pats were doing was more impressive). Pittsburgh and 49ers, fair enough. We haven't done what they've done.... 2).... yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garb Posted March 7, 2005 Share Posted March 7, 2005 From you, I take that as a compliment. Most people think your opinions blow - you're just too arrogant to realize it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted March 7, 2005 Share Posted March 7, 2005 Most people think your opinions blow - you're just too arrogant to realize it. Yeah, ok Garb..............Grow up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonEJet Posted March 7, 2005 Share Posted March 7, 2005 and honestly JonE, two things.... 1) Dallas I think is on the table (at least one dynasty Cowboys player came out and said he thought what the Pats were doing was more impressive). Pittsburgh and 49ers, fair enough. We haven't done what they've done.... 2).... yet. Just because Aikman had a brain fart, doesn't mean sh*t Ever hear Jimmy Johnson say that? Nice effort though Dallas was just the better, more dominant team Pats never dominated the Superbowls they played in They won...granted...but just not a dominant team Nice little team...that HAS A CHANCE to make believers out of everyone with a 4th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garb Posted March 7, 2005 Share Posted March 7, 2005 Yeah, ok Garb..............Grow up. See what I mean? Arrogant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smizzy Posted March 7, 2005 Share Posted March 7, 2005 Oh no, now Smizzy's going to call me an ***hole again.... No need to state the obvious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted March 7, 2005 Share Posted March 7, 2005 See what I mean? Arrogant. No, I don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomShane Posted March 7, 2005 Share Posted March 7, 2005 ANY win garnered in the first years of the salary cap is compromised by the massive parity it has created. There is no way you can look at the Ravens SB as legit, nor can you account for the fact that Herm is .500 as a coach despite being a moron without pointing to the salary cap parity. And that includes the Pats "dynasty." Still, watching them play the Montana Niners or the Aikman Cowboys would be fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted March 7, 2005 Share Posted March 7, 2005 RS The Pats were a nice little team But never, ever should they be compared to San Fran Dallas Pittsburgh Nice little run, that is done now Hey JonE, Your friggn' pathetic football team is right up there with the Cards, Saints, Browns and Lions. Some of the only teams that have NEVER played in the Super Bowl since the AFL-NFL merger. And you come on here and try and diminish the Pats 3 Super Bowl victories in the last 4 years? What a friggn' loser. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garb Posted March 7, 2005 Share Posted March 7, 2005 Tx - JonE is NOT a loser, just a little misguided when it comes to football. :wink: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted March 7, 2005 Share Posted March 7, 2005 Tx - JonE is NOT a loser, just a little misguided hen it comes to football. :wink: OK Garb, I trust your judgement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonEJet Posted March 7, 2005 Share Posted March 7, 2005 Hey JonE, Your friggn' pathetic football team is right up there with the Cards, Saints, Browns and Lions. Some of the only teams that have NEVER played in the Super Bowl since the AFL-NFL merger. And you come on here and try and diminish the Pats 3 Super Bowl victories in the last 4 years? What a friggn' loser. Prior to '01, what wer the pats? Lifelong losers If it wasn't for Namath and The Jets...The Boston patriots might have ended up like the Boston Braves.....deserting that craphole Don't kid yourself...100 years from now, everyone will remember the Jets The Pats...well that nice little team will be no more than a pimple in the history of the NFL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smizzy Posted March 7, 2005 Share Posted March 7, 2005 Hey JonE, and you come on here and try and diminish the Pats 3 Super Bowl victories in the last 4 years? What a friggn' loser. What does it make a Patiot fan on a Jets message board debating the merits of his 3 SUPERBOWL TITLES? AN INSECURE LITTLE COW BANGER FROM TEXAS!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garb Posted March 7, 2005 Share Posted March 7, 2005 ....three superbowl victories in four years is pretty darn memorable. You can't erase the record books. And, when Bill Belichick and Tom Brady are inducted intothe HOF, well, the memories will come rushing back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted March 7, 2005 Share Posted March 7, 2005 Don't kid yourself...100 years from now, everyone will remember the Jets Are you friggn' nuts? What person will remember at team that hasn't played in the Super Bowl for 136 years? The Jets are a complete joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonEJet Posted March 7, 2005 Share Posted March 7, 2005 .... when Bill Belichick and Tom Brady are inducted intothe HOF, well, the memories will come rushing back. You know when they DON'T win without Weis and Crennel....I have a funny feeking their accomlishments may have an * next to them, along with the Tuck Rule, and the DBack holding rule New England Patsies *** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted March 7, 2005 Share Posted March 7, 2005 ....three superbowl victories in four years is pretty darn memorable. You can't erase the record books. And, when Bill Belichick and Tom Brady are inducted intothe HOF, well, the memories will come rushing back. Well it could take Brady 136 years to get inducted into the HOF at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smizzy Posted March 7, 2005 Share Posted March 7, 2005 CowBangerTX you and the rest of the Patriot circus are better off going to JI ,these weak insults and jokes are old. Go try it on the fresh crop of youngsters over there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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