Albert Pujols vs Frank Thomas vs Jeff Bagwell

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who was the best?

[PS17]

Is this a joke?

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no...go check out Frank Thomas from 1990-2000 on www.baseball-reference.com

you can argue he was better than Pujols

same thing with Bags...he was 40-30 guy twice

[PS17]

Pujols is arguably the best player in this era. I don't thing Bags and Thomas come close. Pujols isn't nearly done yet. Best baseball player I've ever seen [Albert] but he might be second to A-Rod. JMO.

But I guarantee you the vote will be unanimous.

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were you around to see Thomas in the mid 90s? up through around 2000? he was a beast...then after that he aged into a HR or nothing guy while chasing 500

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pujols thru age 29: .334/.426/.628, 171 OPS+, 43 HR, 129 RBI, 93 walks per 162 games

thomas thru age 29: .330/.452/.600, 182 OPS+, 39 HR,129 RBI, 133 walks per 162 games

bagwell thru age 29: .304/.409/.536, 159 OPS+ 30 HR, 117 RBI, 101 walks per 162 games...and 18 steals per season as a bonus

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how so?

it shows me thomas and pujols were right with eachother....infact Thomas's OPS+ means that he was better against the rest of the league than Pujols

but with Albert I'll take him just because of his clutchness

[PFSIKH]

Pujols.

Thomas was a beast for about 7 years (1991-1997). After that he had a few more good seasons, but was largely Dave Kingman with a slightly higher average.

That he was beast during the hey day of the Roid casts doubt on him.

[JonEJet]

You sure that Albert doesn't roid?

He looks the part, just sayin

[vanDoug]

Pujols

He got jobbed of a couple of MVPs by Barroid

[PS17]

You sure that Albert doesn't roid?

He looks the part, just sayin

Of course I have my suspicions, but you're innocent until proven guilty, and there hasn't been even a rumor that he's juicing.

[PFSIKH]

You sure that Albert doesn't roid?

He looks the part, just sayin

No one is above suspicion. How Ryan Howard gets a free pas on this forum is a discussion for another day.

What we do know, there are testing procedures in place. Players are popped a few times a year. This is not much more, but it is more then they had during Thomas' years.

[vanDoug]

Puhols was quoted as saying "I won't disappoint you" to his fans earlier this year. Maybe he's the real deal.

[PFSIKH]

Puhols was quoted as saying "I won't disappoint you" to his fans earlier this year. Maybe he's the real deal.

I would like to believe Pujols, but we have heard that before. Even in front of Congress.

[Bugg]

I trust no one. Andy Pettitte was the All American Boy, and then he fessed up.

I doubt Thomas did because his career tailed off on the way power hitters' careers did until the roid era. Will be curious if as he ages Puhljos ages like Thomas and Jime Rice with the tailing off or his numbers go up like Bonds.

[Arsis]

Thomas was a beast and he was clean. Pooholes is a dirty roider of a cheat.

[KudosForND]

I was a huge Thomas fan but Pujols is better because of fielding. He is a gold glover at 1st and can play 3rd and OF. Thomas cant even play 1st.

[PFSIKH]

Thomas was a beast and he was clean. Pooholes is a dirty roider of a cheat.

Based on what?

Look at that head.

Not too different then that one.

[SenorGato]

^^^ WTF?

Pujols might be this decade's Thomas, but at this point in their careers they're pretty much neck and neck.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2006/03/12/SPG67HMSPS1.DTL