AFJF Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 Any chance Cashman can send one if not both of these guys to an NL team in the off-season. JV (talk about appropriate initials) is one year removed from almost winning a CY over there so he'd probably be easier to move. AJ and Vaz to the NL Cliff Lee to the Yanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenranger Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 Javy won't be back, A.J. will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 Burnett's more likely to compete for a Cy Young than suck like this again. Just sayin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets Voice of Reason Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 Any chance Cashman can send one if not both of these guys to an NL team in the off-season. JV (talk about appropriate initials) is one year removed from almost winning a CY over there so he'd probably be easier to move. AJ and Vaz to the NL Cliff Lee to the Yanks. Vazquez is a FA at the end of the year. And there's no way in hell we'd offer arbitration to him. Just be happy is salary is off the books. Get used to AJ. 3 years and 49.5 million left on that deal. He's going to be ours for another few years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morrissey Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 Javy is a free agent this off-season. So he's free to sign with any team that want him. We can also forget about any draft picks. He won't be offered arbitration, for the fear he will aceept it. That trade is a total bust. Arody Vizcaino, even with his shoulder concerns, looked great when healthy, he's has so much potential. Braves made out well. Burnett, well... we're stuck with him. No one wants him or his ugly ugly contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets Voice of Reason Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 Burnett's more likely to compete for a Cy Young than suck like this again. Just sayin. He's basically been a one pitch pitcher this entire year. He lost control on his curve. But I guess what else is new. The guy has elite stuff but inconsistent command. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 He's basically been a one pitch pitcher this entire year. He lost control on his curve. But I guess what else is new. The guy has elite stuff but inconsistent command. He lost it but he didn't lose it to health or anything...He's entirely capable of getting it back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morrissey Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 Odly enough, Boone Logan has become the more vaulable pitcher coming to the Yankees in that Javy/Logan for Melky/Vizcaino/Dunn trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morrissey Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 Burnett is the anti Cliff Lee. They are pretty much the opposite pitchers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets Voice of Reason Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 Odly enough, Boone Logan has become the more vaulable pitcher coming to the Yankees in that Javy/Logan for Melky/Vizcaino/Dunn trade. I just hope Vicaino doesn't turn into anything. I know we're coming off of the WS win and i'm okay with moving on from Damon and Matsui but god damn. Nick Johnson and Javy Vazquez? How the hell do you not see what happened happening again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morrissey Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 I just hope Vicaino doesn't turn into anything. I know we're coming off of the WS win and i'm okay with moving on from Damon and Matsui but god damn. Nick Johnson and Javy Vazquez? How the hell do you not see what happened happening again? I was behind the Vazquez trade, though once the PTBNA became Arody Vizcaino, I was not pleased, but on principal, I thought Vazquez could come in a do a stellar job as #4 starter, win 12-14 games, with an era hovering in the low 4's. I didn't think that was too much to ask, especially with the Yankee offense. But he started out awful, pitched well for a month, and then just spit the bit again. His fastball just dispeared, if he had the same fastball in 2009, he would of done much better. but in the AL East, a 88-90 mph isn't cutting it without much movement. Nick Johnson was worth the gamble, I don't think we lost anything because of that deal. It was predictable, but still meant very little. Thames has been a great pick. Johnson was not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharrow Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 Yeah, he sucked early, but he was pretty good in the middle of the summer for a couple months, and didn't hurt you too bad late in the year. Pretty good one year rental, imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted October 14, 2010 Author Share Posted October 14, 2010 Damn, I thought Javy had another year on his deal. Would've been nice to get something for him but I'll take the addition by subtraction and his contract off the books. I think the Yanks would have a shot at dealing AJ to the NL if they picked up a portion of his salary. Could be more addition by subtraction. It really is a shame though becuase the guy has Cy Young stuff...just can't get his head on straight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets Voice of Reason Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 Damn, I thought Javy had another year on his deal. Would've been nice to get something for him but I'll take the addition by subtraction and his contract off the books. I think the Yanks would have a shot at dealing AJ to the NL if they picked up a portion of his salary. Could be more addition by subtraction. It really is a shame though becuase the guy has Cy Young stuff...just can't get his head on straight. 1) His trade value is dirt low production-wise 2) His trade value is below dirt low from his prohibitive contract 3) The yankees are not going to pick up salary, certainly not to the ugly a$$ figures we'd have to right now. The yankees don't do business that way anymore anyways. I can't remember the last trade they made where they picked up a substantial salary. Maybe Bobby Abreu? 4) As bad as he's been, there's no reason to think he can't regain command as it's not a physical problem like Gato alluded. We'd be better off keeping him because I doubt he's going to be as bad this year in future years. His elite stuff is worth trying to straighten him out. In short, it's unrealistic to trade him. And really for what? If we actually do get Lee, which I think we will make strong effort to considering we offered Montero to get him. We'll have AJ being slotted as the #4 guy behind Hughes. I can live with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 I'm gonna go bold and say the Yankees don't sign Lee unless they force 46's retirement, which isn't going to happen. My favorite for Lee is the Mets. He fits that park to a tee, and he did his best pitching in SafeCo, another gigantic park. He'd give them the stud they need with Santana's future in doubt right now, and he's got 3-5 years left on his arm easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE ILK Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 AJ Burnett hit 2 of his own batters in yesterday's simulation game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanoRevis24 Posted October 19, 2010 Share Posted October 19, 2010 I'm gonna go bold and say the Yankees don't sign Lee unless they force 46's retirement, which isn't going to happen. My favorite for Lee is the Mets. He fits that park to a tee, and he did his best pitching in SafeCo, another gigantic park. He'd give them the stud they need with Santana's future in doubt right now, and he's got 3-5 years left on his arm easy. or a chance of him staying in Texas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted October 19, 2010 Share Posted October 19, 2010 or a chance of him staying in Texas? It could happen...especially if they beat the Yankees this series. The only issue is that they're supposed to be dead broke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE ILK Posted October 19, 2010 Share Posted October 19, 2010 Braves cut Melky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted October 19, 2010 Author Share Posted October 19, 2010 Braves cut Melky. Wow..that deal didn't turn out so well for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted October 19, 2010 Author Share Posted October 19, 2010 Well, in a little while we find out if A.J. Burnett is a complete mental case or not. The guy has amazing stuff..nobody doubts that. Since his last start he's been ripped by fans and media alike, left off of the WC roster, now people saying his manager is making a terrible decision by letting him pitch. He either takes all this in and turns it in to "eff you all" positive energy/focus, or he melts down and gets rocked like Kevin Brown vs. the Sox. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanoRevis24 Posted October 20, 2010 Share Posted October 20, 2010 It could happen...especially if they beat the Yankees this series. The only issue is that they're supposed to be dead broke. yeah arent they bankrupt or going into bankruptcy? idk it would have been nice for him to stay in seattle, where i live. we have nothing to be proud of here in or sports world Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted October 20, 2010 Share Posted October 20, 2010 You have the most talented RHP in the MLB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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