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[#27TheDominator]

The Jets psyche is schizophrenic, just like their head coach. As a team, they seem unable to control the highs and lows of a individual games, and take time to set a balanced tone.

This stems from leadership. Leadership should be there to maintain and control team temperament and set the pace. What we get is extremes.

Crock of sh*t.

They can't handle adversity? They made it to the AFC championship game after getting blown out by the Pats when the team was on a great run. Exactly what you are claiming they can't do here. Temperment, control, pace? They are losing, whatever the reason, but the guy did it before. Maybe he lost the team and can't get them back, but don't give me any bullsh*t like it's a guarantee that he could never win. I suppose that it was all those super bowl winners like Thomas Jones, Braylon Edwards and Tomlinson that were leading the team at that time.

[Scott Dierking]

Crock of sh*t.

They can't handle adversity? They made it to the AFC championship game after getting blown out by the Pats when the team was on a great run. Exactly what you are claiming they can't do here. Temperment, control, pace? They are losing, whatever the reason, but the guy did it before. Maybe he lost the team and can't get them back, but don't give me any bullsh*t like it's a guarantee that he could never win. I suppose that it was all those super bowl winners like Thomas Jones, Braylon Edwards and Tomlinson that were leading the team at that time.

Rex Ryan had a shelf life where he was able to build a fever pitch. And that shelf life was short, because he does not command a locker room.

He admittedly lost the team last year and players talked out of turn and performed badly as a team. Based on the comments we see coming from players, and performance on the field, we can see that he has lost the locker room again.

Bill Parcells said it best when he said "Pressure busts pipes". Well, this incarnation of staff and team is leaking water all over the place. They can't take the pressure, they only chest bump when things are good.

Bad traits

Edited by Scott Dierking, 29 November 2012 - 10:04 AM.

[#27TheDominator]

Rex Ryan had a shelf life where he was able to build a fever pitch. And that shelf life was short, because he does not command a locker room.

He admittedly lost the team last year and players talked out of turn and performed badly as a team. Based on the comments we see coming from players, and performance on the field, we can see that he has lost the locker room again.

Bill Parcells said it best when he said "Pressure busts pipes". Well, this incarnation of staff and team is leaking water all over the place. They can't take the pressure, they only chest bump when things are good.

Bad traits

The shelf life thing is your point. It may be valid. The idea that Rex is incapabl of bringing a team back from a bad defeat is not.

[Scott Dierking]

The shelf life thing is your point. It may be valid. The idea that Rex is incapabl of bringing a team back from a bad defeat is not.

In your estimation, did the Jets come out flat against Pittsburgh in the AFC Championship game?

[#27TheDominator]

In your estimation, did the Jets come out flat against Pittsburgh in the AFC Championship game?

Was that because they got blown out the week before?

[Scott Dierking]

Was that because they got blown out the week before?

Different circumstance. My rant is that the Jets are "emotionally unstable" from a team psyche standpoint. That means that both lows and highs affect them-kinda like my wife.

That emanates from the HC

[JiF]

Was that because they got blown out the week before?

Well, actually, before the Jets went into Pittsburgh during the regular season and won, they managed 9pts in 2 games vs. division opponents and lost each game. Then went into a state they've never won in before and pulled off a victory. If you remember, the horrible leader that Rex is, marked their place in the Pitts locker room because he knew they'd be back again in the playoffs.

Ever think that Pittsburgh is just a good team, and a hard place to play, and even harder to win their home twice in 1 year?

[Matt39]

Well, actually, before the Jets went into Pittsburgh during the regular season and won, they managed 9pts in 2 games vs. division opponents and lost each game. Then went into a state they've never won in before and pulled off a victory. If you remember, the horrible leader that Rex is, marked their place in the Pitts locker room because he knew they'd be back again in the playoffs.

Ever think that Pittsburgh is just a good team, and a hard place to play, and even harder to win their home twice in 1 year?

The Steelers kicked the living sh*t out of them in the first half. Our best player even admitted the team wasnt ready to play.

[Scott Dierking]

Well, actually, before the Jets went into Pittsburgh during the regular season and won, they managed 9pts in 2 games vs. division opponents and lost each game. Then went into a state they've never won in before and pulled off a victory. If you remember, the horrible leader that Rex is, marked their place in the Pitts locker room because he knew they'd be back again in the playoffs.

Ever think that Pittsburgh is just a good team, and a hard place to play, and even harder to win their home twice in 1 year?

The question again is, in the biggest game of the year to date, did the Jets come out flat?

[#27TheDominator]

Actually, I don't think they came out so flat. I think they lost to a better team that matches up well with them. The Steeler defense is tough and tough to run on which put Sanchez on the hot seat - as opposed to Indy and the Pats who try to trade score for score. The D didn't look so hot early, but they got a turnover and were not helped by the O. Rex is so bad with adversity that the team stormed back in the 2nd half and actually made a game of it. I think they got beaten by a superior team, with a seasoned QB.

[Matt39]

Actually, I don't think they came out so flat. I think they lost to a better team that matches up well with them. The Steeler defense is tough and tough to run on which put Sanchez on the hot seat - as opposed to Indy and the Pats who try to trade score for score. The D didn't look so hot early, but they got a turnover and were not helped by the O. Rex is so bad with adversity that the team stormed back in the 2nd half and actually made a game of it. I think they got beaten by a superior team, with a seasoned QB.

The Steelers went on a 12 minute drive to start the game. The game was dead there.

[#27TheDominator]

The Steelers went on a 12 minute drive to start the game. The game was dead there.

Oh. I stand corrected. They must have been flat. The game was over before the 2nd quarter. Sometimes the other team is just better.

[Matt39]

Oh. I stand corrected. They must have been flat. The game was over before the 2nd quarter. Sometimes the other team is just better.

12 minute drive to start a game with the rights to go to the Super Bowl, the team wasnt ready to play. Missed tackles, Heath Miller blocking Bryan Thomas 20 yards down the field, PI penalties...the Jets were shell shocked and never recovered.

[JiF]

The Steelers kicked the living sh*t out of them in the first half. Our best player even admitted the team wasnt ready to play.

Werent ready to play is just an excuse for getting manhandled. You really think that the team wasnt ready to play at a shot for the SB? Doubt it.

They got pushed around. It happens. Especially against a physical team like the Steelers on the road, in the playoffs, 2nd time visiting their stadium that year, after 2 spectacular defensive efforts vs. 2 of the best QB's of all time.

Plus, people forget, the Steelers came out flat vs. the Ravens the very game before the Jets. They had to make a comeback effort to win, dominated the 2nd half, and the rest is history.

[Scott Dierking]

Actually, I don't think they came out so flat. I think they lost to a better team that matches up well with them. The Steeler defense is tough and tough to run on which put Sanchez on the hot seat - as opposed to Indy and the Pats who try to trade score for score. The D didn't look so hot early, but they got a turnover and were not helped by the O. Rex is so bad with adversity that the team stormed back in the 2nd half and actually made a game of it. I think they got beaten by a superior team, with a seasoned QB.

Players said otherwise.

NEW YORK (WFAN) – Jets owner Woody Johnson doesn’t think New York’s AFC Championship game loss was “anyone’s fault.”Cornerback Darrelle Revis has a different opinion.
“On people’s body language, you can kind of see guys just relaxed,” Revis told the NFL Network on Thursday. “Guys are relaxed and didn’t know what was at stake. That’s why we came out so flat and we didn’t finish strong.”
The Jets lost the the Pittsburgh Steelers on Sunday night, 24-19, thanks in part to New York’s listless first half.
Revis said several leaders, including him, tried to rally the Jets at halftime.

[JiF]

The question again is, in the biggest game of the year to date, did the Jets come out flat?

And thats Rex's fault? Sorry bud, I'm not buying it. I highly doubt Rex's preparation was any different. In fact, I can distinctly remember him saying that Big Ben is one of the hardest people to prepare for in the league and they were as focused as they'd ever been.

Besides, if you're a player, playing on that stage for all the marbles...you shouldnt need motivation from anyone other than yourself. Period.

The Steelers came out extremely physical. The Jets didnt have an answer. It happens. Its not because Rex Ryan didnt have his team ready. I dont buy that. Not after what they did to Manning and Brady in back to back weeks.

[Scott Dierking]

And thats Rex's fault? Sorry bud, I'm not buying it. I highly doubt Rex's preparation was any different. In fact, I can distinctly remember him saying that Big Ben is one of the hardest people to prepare for in the league and they were as focused as they'd ever been.

Besides, if you're a player, playing on that stage for all the marbles...you shouldnt need motivation from anyone other than yourself. Period.

The Steelers came out extremely physical. The Jets didnt have an answer. It happens. Its not because Rex Ryan didnt have his team ready. I dont buy that. Not after what they did to Manning and Brady in back to back weeks.

The coach is the one who sets the tone.

If a team comes out flat in a big game, that is on the coach.

That sis what you have a coach for.

[Matt39]

Werent ready to play is just an excuse for getting manhandled. You really think that the team wasnt ready to play at a shot for the SB? Doubt it.

They got pushed around. It happens. Especially against a physical team like the Steelers on the road, in the playoffs, 2nd time visiting their stadium that year, after 2 spectacular defensive efforts vs. 2 of the best QB's of all time.

Plus, people forget, the Steelers came out flat vs. the Ravens the very game before the Jets. They had to make a comeback effort to win, dominated the 2nd half, and the rest is history.

Gettting pushed around is coming out flat. Revis admitted it. Team wasn't into that game like they were the week before. Its sports....they put all their eggs in the Patriots basket and felt satisfied. Its unfortunate for the fans, but the players and Rex felt they won the SB that year.

The Sanchez fumble shouldnt have been a TD...and the offense finally got going in the second half....but still the defense just didnt have their usual swagger that game. The last drive was a kick in the nuts.

Edited by Matt39, 29 November 2012 - 10:59 AM.

[Scott Dierking]

Gettting pushed around is coming out flat. Revis admitted it. Team wasn't into that game like they were the week before. Its sports....they put all their eggs in the Patriots basket and felt satisfied. Its unfortunate for the fans, but the players and Rex felt they won the SB that year.

They celebrated like kids on Christmas after that Patriots game and felt the hangover the next week.

Maybe Rex is a guy who can only get a team jacked up every so often. He can't have the sustained runs that it takes to win a Super Bowl. Other coaches have created upsets in playoffs, and finished the deal.

Rex does not seem to be one of those guys. He would rather be the guy participating in the party, rather than the one controlling it

[#27TheDominator]

Flat or relaxed? If they won they would have been relaxed.

It's easy to be "into it" when you are running into a buch of finesse pansies and a little tougher in Steeltown when big bodies are roughing you up. I don't give Rex any credit for what happened in Pittsburgh, but to act like it was an unpardonable sin is moronic. The team - not a very good team according to most got farther than they were supposed to. I suppose maybe they are schizophrenic like Dierking says, but he would complain about schizophrenia when discussing Howard Hughes