Lego My Lageman Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 Lots of talk of possible trades...will we get involved? Matt Forte for a 3rd or Shonn Greene and a 6th? Robert Mathis? Reggie Wayne? Peyton Hillis or Asante Samuel? http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/10/18/peyton-hillis-asante-sam... Mike Sims Walker? not a trade but have him come in for a workout? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoping4ASuperBowl Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 Bad link. And give me some proof that Forte is on the block. That would be the dumbest move by the bears right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoFlaJets Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 Supposedly there are a lot of calls for Hillis-he'd be a great fit for ground and pound Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darrellegivesmeaboner#24 Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 Depending on what it would take to get Wayne for the rest of the year, I would look long and hard at that. I know he will be a free agent at the end of the year, but if he comes and loves Rex it isn't inconceivable that he would want to re-sign here at a market/slightly below market type deal. If we ended up doing this, which i doubt we will, I would just go ahead and cut Plaxico. Plax still has no chemistry with Sanchez, so dealing for a receiver with no chemistry is no downgrade. Plus, you know damn well that Plaxico isn't going to stand for sitting on the bench...If Wayne can be had for a 5th I would do it in a heartbeart, and try to save this passing game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StraightCash Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 Shonne Greene and a 6th for Forte would be a robbery and would only happen in jets fans dreams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damaged89 Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 Shonne Greene and a 6th for Forte would be a robbery and would only happen in jets fans dreams. This. I like Greene but Forte is on another level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiFtheOracle Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 Did you hear somewhere the Forte was on the block? No to Wayne, No to MSW, No to Hillis, No to Samuel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoFlaJets Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 I just have a funny feeling that Tannenbaum pulls something off today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 Forte would actually be really good here. Tomlinson would probably be immediately cut if we traded for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetsman Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 I think realistic trade target should be Eddie Royal from Denver, perfect as a slot receiver and he will come very cheap for a late round pick. I highly doubt the Colts would move Mathis or Wayne, Forte isnt going anywhere as the Bears will quicker slap a franchise tag on him next season than trade him. I am not sure what Hillis can do , I say we give Powell a shot I think he can be effective if given a chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lego My Lageman Posted October 18, 2011 Author Share Posted October 18, 2011 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/10/18/peyton-hillis-asante-samuel-could-be-available/ The Forte thought came from ESPN this morning. He is looking for a new deal the Bear wont Budge on. I think its the last year of his deal....not sure though. They said they would consider the trade....not exactly on the block, but they would consider. MUST HAPPEN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lego My Lageman Posted October 18, 2011 Author Share Posted October 18, 2011 Forte would actually be really good here. Tomlinson would probably be immediately cut if we traded for him. Im calling Matt Forte....I really think so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darrellegivesmeaboner#24 Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 We need a reliable second receiver, Reggie Wayne has been that for years. Mark's problem this whole season has been getting in sync with his receivers, mostly because they tend to run shady routes. With the exception of Holmes, who has been bumped off his route a lot also this year, there is no way for Mark to know exactly where the receiver is going to be on a given play. When you add that to the fact that the line has not been good enough for most of the year to allow Sanchez to re-read the coverage to find where his receivers are going, it has been a tough start for the kid. Reggie Wayne runs some of the best routes in football. He is consistent. If he can be had cheap, there is little doubt that Wayne's impact over the rest of the season will be of more value than a late round flier on a college kid... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoping4ASuperBowl Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 Bears would be beyond stupid to trade away Forte. Like someone else said, why trade him when they can slap the franchise tag on him next year anyways? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 LIBERATE BRAYLON Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 The Bears have been reportedly getting calls about Forte, but it seems like they have no interest in dealing him, as they well shouldn't (that said, they really need to get that guy a new deal). Beyond that I'm not sure there's a whole lot of value out there in terms of guys who would be available for trades at this point in the season. Granted the Jets did it with the Braylon deal a few years back, but he was also a young player with a ton of upside who had a real possibility to stick with the team long term. Granted that didn't happen, but you can't tell me it wouldn't have had Holmes not been available for a 5th rounder last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lego My Lageman Posted October 18, 2011 Author Share Posted October 18, 2011 We need a reliable second receiver, Reggie Wayne has been that for years. Mark's problem this whole season has been getting in sync with his receivers, mostly because they tend to run shady routes. With the exception of Holmes, who has been bumped off his route a lot also this year, there is no way for Mark to know exactly where the receiver is going to be on a given play. When you add that to the fact that the line has not been good enough for most of the year to allow Sanchez to re-read the coverage to find where his receivers are going, it has been a tough start for the kid. Reggie Wayne runs some of the best routes in football. He is consistent. If he can be had cheap, there is little doubt that Wayne's impact over the rest of the season will be of more value than a late round flier on a college kid... Do we get Wayne and cut Plax? He looked like he was thinking about what club to go to later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lego My Lageman Posted October 18, 2011 Author Share Posted October 18, 2011 They wont cut Plax as he has 3mil guaranteed....so I dont see a trade for a WR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darrellegivesmeaboner#24 Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 Bears would be beyond stupid to trade away Forte. Like someone else said, why trade him when they can slap the franchise tag on him next year anyways? I don't think they trade him either, but RB's with a franchise salary are tough to deal with against the cap...I also question whether Forte would even be that great here...Forte's best value is his speed in the open field, which we do not provide as much of since we do not have an offense predicated on the screen game like they have in Chicago...We would have to drop a 2nd on Forte probably, and then re-sign him in the offseason. No thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darrellegivesmeaboner#24 Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 They wont cut Plax as he has 3mil guaranteed....so I dont see a trade for a WR. If we were able to secure a better player there then why not, it isn't as though we are up against the cap right now anyway? Last I checked we still were $5+ mil under the cap...I would cut Plaxico in this instance because he has a history of moping and I wouldn't want him to be a distraction from the bench. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 Cutting Plax and admitting it was a mistake wouldnt be a bad thing. Even if they don't sign someone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoping4ASuperBowl Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 I don't think they trade him either, but RB's with a franchise salary are tough to deal with against the cap...I also question whether Forte would even be that great here...Forte's best value is his speed in the open field, which we do not provide as much of since we do not have an offense predicated on the screen game like they have in Chicago...We would have to drop a 2nd on Forte probably, and then re-sign him in the offseason. No thanks. Forte could easily fill Tomlinson's role if not do a better job than Tomlinson. I think you forget the bear's oline is significantly worse than ours. No matter how bad our oline has been, the bears is worse. Forte would do better behind this oline which is amazing considering how well he's doing in Chicago this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darrellegivesmeaboner#24 Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 Cutting Plax and admitting it was a mistake wouldnt be a bad thing. Even if they don't sign someone else. I'm not completely giving up on Plaxico just yet, but if we were able to bring in a better #2 WR then I would do that because I don't think he would handle the situation well...Cutting Plax without adding another WR would just be stupid though. We are already entrusting a lot into Jeremy Kerley, making him #2 and starting whoever in the slot would be a disaster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 Plax has been a disaster imo...he's shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darrellegivesmeaboner#24 Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 Forte could easily fill Tomlinson's role if not do a better job than Tomlinson. I think you forget the bear's oline is significantly worse than ours. No matter how bad our oline has been, the bears is worse. Forte would do better behind this oline which is amazing considering how well he's doing in Chicago this year. My point is that I do not love Forte as much running straight out of an I-Formation, which is what we do best, as other RBs. He does better out in space, whereas we like to grind it out with out O-Line. That along with the high compensation in a trade, the expensive contract extension forthcoming, I would look elsewhere... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYJ37/12 Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 If the Jets were able to rid themselves of burress today I would be very Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StraightCash Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 I hear we are negotiating with Green Bay... Clay Matthews for Pace and a 7th... And we're going to get Polamolu for Eric Smith and a conditional. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoping4ASuperBowl Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 My point is that I do not love Forte as much running straight out of an I-Formation, which is what we do best, as other RBs. He does better out in space, whereas we like to grind it out with out O-Line. That along with the high compensation in a trade, the expensive contract extension forthcoming, I would look elsewhere... How successful has that i-formation been for us this year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirlancemehlot Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 If we admit Plax was a mistake, that would be admitting two bad aquisitions at one position this past offseason. What we really need is a lineman or a pass rusher. Y'know, the same sh*t we needed back in April and didn't address. I'd like to trade Tannenbaum, myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darrellegivesmeaboner#24 Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 I hear we are negotiating with Green Bay... Clay Matthews for Pace and a 7th... And we're going to get Polamolu for Eric Smith and a conditional. If only we could get a real safety here...With Revis playing out of this world, having a legit safety would do wonders for this defense. We would be able to actually cover some TEs, as well as have another guy in the box to stop the run! I feel we haven't fully capitalized on Revis because of this... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoping4ASuperBowl Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 I hear we are negotiating with Green Bay... Clay Matthews for Pace and a 7th... And we're going to get Polamolu for Eric Smith and a conditional. I heard Detroit is willing to trade Megatron to us for Greene and and 4th round pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darrellegivesmeaboner#24 Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 How successful has that i-formation been for us this year? Hard to say because we haven't had an O-Line playing together uninjured yet...what other formation produces runs of any success so far? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StraightCash Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 I heard Detroit is willing to trade Megatron to us for Greene and and 4th round pick. But then we wouldn't be able to get Forte! decisions decisions... Maybe they'd do megatron for a straight up 3rd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoping4ASuperBowl Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 Hard to say because we haven't had an O-Line playing together uninjured yet...what other formation produces runs of any success so far? None it seems so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoping4ASuperBowl Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 But then we wouldn't be able to get Forte! decisions decisions... Maybe they'd do megatron for a straight up 3rd. Tough choice. I guess Megatron is slightly more talented than Forte. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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