T0mShane Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 Anyone else find it curious that less than a week after Michael Sam comes out that a guy who has been unsigned for a season and a half is suddenly employed so that he can become the first openly gay athlete in a major US sports league? Are you questioning the moral and ethical boundaries of the great Billy King? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 Where else are you going to get 5 fouls in 10 minutes? You can't just find that type of production anywhere. Yao Ming was unavailable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 Felton arrested on a gun charge. Fire everybody? Or go Full Dolan and re-up everybody just to show Frank Isola who's boss? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 Melo, breaking down his entire professional existence: @BlkSportsOnline: BSO: Melo: "When You Score 40+ & Lose, Is it Worth It?" http://t.co/pz2X7wCxDj Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 Melo isn't valued around the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 LOL, the same day the Knicks buy out Beno, Felton gets arrested on gun possession charges. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 WTF, T0m, why are you posting here at 5:30 in the morning? LOL Just woke up from your drug stupor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted February 25, 2014 Author Share Posted February 25, 2014 Where else can he go and put up 30 shots? There's no chance he's leaving the coziness of MSG. Minimal stress, max money and can run the offense the way he always has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted February 25, 2014 Author Share Posted February 25, 2014 If Felton's soon to be ex just unsolicitedly called the cops to rat him out for having an unregistered gun....ehh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 Where else can he go and put up 30 shots? There's no chance he's leaving the coziness of MSG. Minimal stress, max money and can run the offense the way he always has. :face: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 Only 24 more games with Melo on the Knicks and then Matt39 will rejoice. At least they'll have a 1st rounder in 2015 because the team is going to be dreadful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 The NBA season should be over right now. Today. Start the playoffs tomorrow. Instead, we'll get three more months of heel-dragging by worn-out lottery teams, and taking-every-other-game-off by playoff teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 The season should be 60 games long withno back to backs or 4 in 5 nights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted March 1, 2014 Author Share Posted March 1, 2014 This is basically rock bottom...Melo walking changes what exactly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 This is basically rock bottom...Melo walking changes what exactly?Your level of joy because you'll be so happy when he's gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted March 1, 2014 Author Share Posted March 1, 2014 Your level of joy because you'll be so happy when he's gone. He's not that good of a player for me to get that bent out of shape about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 He's not that good of a player for me to get that bent out of shape about it.Could have surprised me with your constant venom directed his way. Regardless, once he's gone you can stop pretending to be a Knicks fan hating on the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted March 1, 2014 Author Share Posted March 1, 2014 Could have surprised me with your constant venom directed his way. Regardless, once he's gone you can stop pretending to be a Knicks fan hating on the team. You're confusing hate with being realistic. Once Walsh was told to leave you knew were this ship was headed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 It's Matt39's fault that Chuck Person Redux is a one-dimensional player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted March 1, 2014 Author Share Posted March 1, 2014 It's Matt39's fault that Chuck Person Redux is a one-dimensional player. What does it say about Melo as a player by going to Miami Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 What does it say about Melo as a player by going to Miami No chance. His ego couldn't handle it. He's going to weasel his way into the Lakers, where everyone will talk about how the Lakers just need to surround Carmelo with more players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 Karl goes in on Melo: Main Menu The New York Times Search SUBSCRIBELOG INPro Basketball ON PRO BASKETBALL George Karl Sees a Talent Adrift as Carmelo Anthony’s Knicks Fade Carmelo Anthony, left, Coach George Karl and the Nuggets lost in six games to the eventual champion Lakers in the Western Conference finals in 2009. BRIAN BAHR / GETTY IMAGES By HARVEY ARATON March 1, 2014 Let’s assume, for the moment, that Carmelo Anthony will decide to re-sign with the Knicks after what has so far been a dreadful season. That the extra money along with ownership guarantees of a roster upgrade will be enough to quell whatever wanderlust Anthony may have. The remarriage will surely be accompanied by vows of renewed championship contention. Then what? How do the Knicks, after failing to maximize team achievement since his 2011 acquisition, build around Anthony’s formidable offensive skills? Will they go on another fishing expedition for whichever free agent they can lure, or for actual talent that fits the complementary profile? And a question that continues to be more of a conundrum: Who, exactly, would be best matched with Anthony, one of the N.B.A.’s more enigmatic stars? “He always wants to think like a coach, but he always doesn’t want to sign the contract with the coach,” the former Nuggets coach George Karl said about Carmelo Anthony, center. ADAM HUNGER FOR THE NEW YORK TIMES This seemed like a natural subject to discuss with George Karl, the one coach to make a prolonged playoff run with Anthony when their Denver Nuggets reached the 2009 Western Conference finals before losing in six games to the eventual champion Los Angeles Lakers. Not surprisingly, Karl, now an ESPN analyst after his exit from Denver last season, began with fond memories of the veteran point guard Chauncey Billups, who was acquired by the Nuggets in 2008. “He had that championship mentality from Detroit that my team didn’t have,” Karl said in a recent telephone interview. “It’s hard to define what that actually is, but I think it’s a combination of things: the leadership, the calming of a locker room, the peer pressure of making sure the right stuff is being talked about.” In how that related to Anthony, Karl added, “He’s got to have that mental toughness around him for when he gets a little selfish.” We can have a healthy debate about whether Anthony is a selfish player, or merely so adept at scoring that he firmly believes he is the best option under most circumstances, including those when he isn’t. I tend to believe he is not greedy by nature — he passes out of double teams, though often after holding the ball too long — but more a prisoner of his Amateur Athletic Union upbringing. Karl didn’t disagree that Anthony might best be described as the prototypical A.A.U. showcase player in that he generates the most energy and passion when he has the ball. Case in point: He is one of the game’s most ferocious offensive rebounders, but mainly when pursuing his own missed shots. “There’s no question that he wants to win and his I.Q. for the game is actually very good,” Karl said. “He always wants to think like a coach, but he always doesn’t want to sign the contract with the coach.” Asked what he meant by that, Karl said: “I think Melo respected me and I think he respects Mike Woodson. But I don’t think Melo understands that coming to work with the best attitude every single day is a precious commodity when you’re the best player. That’s not the same thing as playing hard. That’s bringing the total package, 100 percent focused on all the little things. Those are rare breeds. Kevin Garnett. Michael Jordan. LeBron didn’t always have it, but he has it now. “Melo doesn’t get an A in that department — maybe not much more than a B-minus. It is, in a sense, the A.A.U. mind-set: We worked hard yesterday, maybe we can take a day off today. That’s why he really needs that player — the point guard or someone who takes on that role — to be the bridge from the coach to him.” Billups quickly became that player when he joined the Nuggets. By their second season together, Karl believed the Nuggets were playing the best ball in the league until he took a leave of absence in early 2010 to be treated for throat cancer. That stretch convinced him that Anthony could be the best player, or at least the primary scorer, on a championship team. But it’s a tricky proposition, Karl said, because putting Anthony in optimal conditions will most likely demand having a player who is not as prolific, not as much a brand-name star, but one who holds more sway in the daily operation of the team. He said that the combination of Tyson Chandler and Jason Kidd provided much of that tonic of intangibles as the Knicks won 54 games last season. Kidd, like Billups, might have been the ideal stylistic player for Anthony, as opposed to the more scoring-minded lead guards. “The Kidd of five years ago would have been perfect,” Karl said. “By last season, he’d lost his legs and his offense.” This season, with Kidd gone and Chandler (among others) hurt early and less of a physical presence, the Knicks have been, in effect, a team with no core identity beyond Anthony’s scoring binges. Would Rajon Rondo provide those essential qualities that Karl spoke of? Probably, but what assets do the Knicks have to make the trade that might facilitate Rondo’s exit from Boston? Would a prospective 2015 free agent like Kevin Love make the Knicks that much more of a contender if he and Anthony dominated the salary cap so there could be no rim protector to replace Chandler and no serious upgrade at point guard? There has been much speculation about Anthony’s going elsewhere, taking four years instead of a guaranteed five, and possibly even less money to play on a loaded roster. The Miami notion is pure fantasy. In Chicago, where the Bulls may have interest in him, Anthony would supply the easy baskets they seldom get, and he would lighten a healthy Derrick Rose’s burden. “I think Melo would have to know there’d be games when he didn’t have to be the star,” Karl said. “I don’t know if he’s learned that, but I also don’t think he’s that far from learning it.” Turning 30 in May, Anthony would seem to have a better chance of enhanced self-discovery away from Madison Square Garden, where he has carte blanche and the organization treats him like Jordan. But where would losing Anthony and getting nothing in return leave the Knicks? Given the complexity of their options, including a cap-clogging contract for Anthony that would carry him to 35, perhaps no worse off than if they started from scratch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 George Karl, T0m? LOL. He's a bitter old man who has choked away every postseason hes been in. No coach has lost more playoff series as a higher seed than him. He blsmes Melo and thdn Denver chokes when he's gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 What does it say about Melo as a player by going to MiamiThe same thing it said about Lebron when he went to Miami Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SayNoToDMC Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 No chance. His ego couldn't handle it. He's going to weasel his way into the Lakers, where everyone will talk about how the Lakers just need to surround Carmelo with more players. Him playing even one year with Kobe sh*tting down his throat is enough to make it all worthwhile, Knicks can't win by giving him a new max deal anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 You're confusing hate with being realistic. Once Walsh was told to leave you knew were this ship was headed.Actually, when Walsh left they won the division and playoff series for the first time in over a decade. Yes, Walsh brought credibility to the FO, but dont act like he did a good job as GM. He overpaid in every trade to clear cap space, drafted poorly, failed to trade up for Stephen Curry when he had the chsnce, and signed Amare to a $100 million guaranteed contract. Or was all Walsh's bad moves Dolan's fault? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 Him playing even one year with Kobe sh*tting down his throat is enough to make it all worthwhile, Knicks can't win by giving him a new max deal anywaysh*tting down his throat? Where do you clowns get this stuff? Kobe and Melo are BFFs as he is with Lebron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 Actually, when Walsh left they won the division and playoff series for the first time in over a decade. Yes, Walsh brought credibility to the FO, but dont act like he did a good job as GM. He overpaid in every trade to clear cap space, drafted poorly, failed to trade up for Stephen Curry when he had the chsnce, and signed Amare to a $100 million guaranteed contract. Or was all Walsh's bad moves Dolan's fault? Donnie Walsh ruined the Knicks like Parcells ruined the Jets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 Of course not. But the media and gullible fans believe in a false narrative based on Walsh being compared to disasters in Isiah and Layden. Its like saying Rosie O'Donnel is gorgeous because she looks better than the chimp face eaten woman Donnie Walsh ruined the Knicks like Parcells ruined the Jets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 Well, Rosie O'Donnell is really hurting that Pacers franchise, itellyawhat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 Well, Rosie O'Donnell is really hurting that Pacers franchise, itellyawhat LOL, the Pacers? Larry Legend built that team in total. Walsh has not acquired a single significant player for that team. Seriously, T0m, are you really this misinformed or are you just trolling? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SayNoToDMC Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 LOL, the Pacers? Larry Legend built that team in total. Walsh has not acquired a single significant player for that team. Seriously, T0m, are you really this misinformed or are you just trolling? Our current GM got duped by the Clippers at the trade deadline to keep shump out of OKC, he's clueless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 Our current GM got duped by the Clippers at the trade deadline to keep shump out of OKC, he's cluelessNo question. Idiots run the Knicks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted March 2, 2014 Author Share Posted March 2, 2014 The same thing it said about Lebron when he went to Miami Not even close. Lebron went to Miami and was and is the top dog and that was never in question. Melo just isn't that good. He's a better version of Big Dog. This year is on him as much as anyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted March 2, 2014 Author Share Posted March 2, 2014 Actually, when Walsh left they won the division and playoff series for the first time in over a decade. Yes, Walsh brought credibility to the FO, but dont act like he did a good job as GM. He overpaid in every trade to clear cap space, drafted poorly, failed to trade up for Stephen Curry when he had the chsnce, and signed Amare to a $100 million guaranteed contract. Or was all Walsh's bad moves Dolan's fault? You are embarrassing yourself here now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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