HighPitch Posted June 23, 2016 Share Posted June 23, 2016 3 hours ago, PatsFanTX said: Mangini took over a 4-12 team, goes 10-6 and the playoffs his first year, and then gets fired for going 9-7. Rex rode Mangini's coat tails to 2 AFCCG appearances. TX spot on as usual Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted June 23, 2016 Share Posted June 23, 2016 7 hours ago, Warfish said: Read posts please. Already covered. Get it right the first time and I wont have to look for corrections later.lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted June 23, 2016 Share Posted June 23, 2016 7 hours ago, HighPitch said: No way. Coslett was better than hermy! Not on any level was Coslett better. Not even close Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighPitch Posted June 23, 2016 Share Posted June 23, 2016 7 hours ago, Jet Nut said: Not on any level was Coslett better. Not even close Herm was an inept buffoon void of coaching skills that guy by charm and likeability on an inherited, stacked team. Coslett was a real coach, he just was not very good coach. There were far more head scratching, wtf moments with herm imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdetroit Posted June 23, 2016 Share Posted June 23, 2016 11 hours ago, chirorob said: I've met players who were on that team. They HATED him. You don't need the players to like you, but they should respect you, and can't hate you. To a man, they hated him. Mangini is such a great coach yet he's sucked horribly everywhere and is not even in the NFL now. Patsfantx track record evaluating coaches is almost as horrific as his Qb evaluation body of work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdetroit Posted June 23, 2016 Share Posted June 23, 2016 1 hour ago, HighPitch said: Herm was an inept buffoon void of coaching skills that guy by charm and likeability on an inherited, stacked team. Coslett was a real coach, he just was not very good coach. There were far more head scratching, wtf moments with herm imo They were both equally mediocre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYs Stepchild Posted June 23, 2016 Share Posted June 23, 2016 15 hours ago, Big Blocker said: Not only did Walton accomplish nothing, but he drove the team downward while the HC. Not sure that makes him the worst, compared to the likes of Kotite, but he certainly deserves consideration as the most frustrating, given the factors you mention. Idk if he's the worst but Walton tops my list of most hated coaches with the cheater a close second. The others either didn't have the players, the intelligence, or the stones to be good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blocker Posted June 23, 2016 Share Posted June 23, 2016 1 hour ago, NYs Stepchild said: Idk if he's the worst but Walton tops my list of most hated coaches with the cheater a close second. The others either didn't have the players, the intelligence, or the stones to be good. I see your point. Kotite was too pathetic to be truly hate-worthy. But Walton is an excellent candidate for most hated. Also a classic case of the Peter Principle at work. A pretty good OC who was terrible as an HC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjunc Posted June 23, 2016 Share Posted June 23, 2016 4 hours ago, HighPitch said: Herm was an inept buffoon void of coaching skills that guy by charm and likeability on an inherited, stacked team. Coslett was a real coach, he just was not very good coach. There were far more head scratching, wtf moments with herm imo a team so stacked they had missed the playoffs the 2 previous season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdetroit Posted June 23, 2016 Share Posted June 23, 2016 2 hours ago, Big Blocker said: I see your point. Kotite was too pathetic to be truly hate-worthy. But Walton is an excellent candidate for most hated. Also a classic case of the Peter Principle at work. A pretty good OC who was terrible as an HC. Kotite is the worst coach that's ever existed not only in football but any sport. In Philly Randall Cunningham used to ignore his play calls and would just improvise. The '96 team actually had a decent roster he just had no idea. He had a career because he's a nice guy in person and was part of the good OL' boys club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdetroit Posted June 23, 2016 Share Posted June 23, 2016 40 minutes ago, nyjunc said: a team so stacked they had missed the playoffs the 2 previous season The '99 team would have won the super bowl if Vinny hadn't gotten injured and the 2000 team was good they just choked and Al Groh alienated everyone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjunc Posted June 23, 2016 Share Posted June 23, 2016 2 hours ago, drdetroit said: The '99 team would have won the super bowl if Vinny hadn't gotten injured and the 2000 team was good they just choked and Al Groh alienated everyone The '99 team may have made a run, we don't know. it was not as good as the '98 team, he made some bad moves that offseason. 2000 was 6-1 and blew it, didn't even make the playoffs. Vinny was not the same(and neither were his weapons) and we allowed him to throw and throw and throw. in 2001 they limited his throws which limited his TOs and we made the playoffs. coaching was the difference btw missing the playoffs in 2000 and making it in 2001. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex-Rex Posted June 23, 2016 Share Posted June 23, 2016 On 6/20/2016 at 11:48 AM, SpartanJet said: Rex has to be in the top 3 worst along with Kotite and Herm. You must be too young to remember Joe Walton who in his first game as HC was caught on camera on the sidelines picking his nose. From that point on my family refers to him as pick, lick and flick. Kotite may have been the worst HC in NFL history and the Jets were supposed to be his 'dream job'. Coslet wasn't horrible, he just didn't get any players from Dick Steinberg in his first three years. Rob Moore was the best player Steinberg drafted until Mo Lewis and Jones. Missed on Brett Favre which is unforgivable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex-Rex Posted June 23, 2016 Share Posted June 23, 2016 21 hours ago, Savage69 said: You used to call him Ratgini so that wasn't his only mistake according to you.. I called him Mangina. His mistake was trying to be too much like Belichick and NOT drafting Joe Flacco when he had broken wing Chad Pennington as his starter. Screw getting a one year Favre, he should have gone after a future franchise QB and he went after an all time bust in Vernon Gholston. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelly Posted June 23, 2016 Author Share Posted June 23, 2016 On 6/21/2016 at 3:08 PM, peebag said: Robots can't have opinions pee - pEEEEEEEEEEE !.. ..................................................... YOU ^ ^ finally woke up ! ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjunc Posted June 23, 2016 Share Posted June 23, 2016 6 minutes ago, Ex-Rex said: You must be too young to remember Joe Walton who in his first game as HC was caught on camera on the sidelines picking his nose. From that point on my family refers to him as pick, lick and flick. Kotite may have been the worst HC in NFL history and the Jets were supposed to be his 'dream job'. Coslet wasn't horrible, he just didn't get any players from Dick Steinberg in his first three years. Rob Moore was the best player Steinberg drafted until Mo Lewis and Jones. Missed on Brett Favre which is unforgivable. to be fair, he was caught picking his nose pretty much every game and he did win that first game on the road at what was supposed to be a tough san Diego team. Rob Moore was drafted in 1990, Mo in 1991. he didn't necessarily miss on Favre, Atl traded ahead of us and I don't think favre would have survived here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted June 23, 2016 Share Posted June 23, 2016 4 hours ago, drdetroit said: The '99 team would have won the super bowl if Vinny hadn't gotten injured and the 2000 team was good they just choked and Al Groh alienated everyone They would have had to beat the Greatest show on Turf the Rams were scoring almost 33 points a game.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brown Posted June 23, 2016 Share Posted June 23, 2016 Despite the hostility out here. No way on God's green earth do Herm or Rex belong in this list. Insanity. One coach got us to the playoffs so long as his QB was healthy and Rex almost got us to a SB!!! Worst coaches!!! For example Kotite didn't know the players on his own team or would cut practices short to go golf!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brown Posted June 23, 2016 Share Posted June 23, 2016 On June 21, 2016 at 1:38 AM, Mainejet said: Race card? That's complete nonsense. I could go into the legitimate reasons why I do not care for Bowles as a HC, but I've mentioned them more times to the point that I no longer care to repeat them. We'll just have to see how things work out. At least this season, I see him coaching a team that loses more games than wins, with a less than desirable roster. It is simple based on last year alone your position is utterly preposterous!!! Bowles may turn out to be an awful HC but only a nut would say he was awful last year that he belongs in same breath as Kotite. Jets fans Good Grief☺️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 5 hours ago, nyjunc said: to be fair, he was caught picking his nose pretty much every game and he did win that first game on the road at what was supposed to be a tough san Diego team. Rob Moore was drafted in 1990, Mo in 1991. he didn't necessarily miss on Favre, Atl traded ahead of us and I don't think favre would have survived here. The reason we didn't have a first in 1991 for Farve was Rob Moore cost a 1st in the supplemental draft..Wolf would have taken Farve with a 1st pick if we had one.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 14 hours ago, HighPitch said: Herm was an inept buffoon void of coaching skills that guy by charm and likeability on an inherited, stacked team. Coslett was a real coach, he just was not very good coach. There were far more head scratching, wtf moments with herm imo Herm took the team to better records and to the playoffs 3 put of 5 seasons. Coslet never finished above .500 Coslet was way over his head. Don't know if I've ever heard anyone anywhere refer to Coslet as a real coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rexorcism Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 Mangini's only mistake as HC of the NYJ's was acting like BB's mini-me without the cheating.. Huge mistake. Fixed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rexorcism Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 The reason we didn't have a first in 1991 for Farve was Rob Moore cost a 1st in the supplemental draft..Wolf would have taken Farve with a 1st pick if we had one.. Hadnt heard that one before...uuuggghhhh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rexorcism Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 The '99 team would have won the super bowl if Vinny hadn't gotten injured and the 2000 team was good they just choked and Al Groh alienated everyone I dont know about that, If Vinny had not gotten hurt we probably wouldve come up short in typical Jet fashion at the hands of Parcells 2 big free agent signings that year...S Steve Atwater and TE Tim Green, 2 awful signings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freemanm Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 There are so many to choose from its hard to decide. I'm actually going with Rex Ryan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdetroit Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 On June 23, 2016 at 11:13 PM, Rexorcism said: I dont know about that, If Vinny had not gotten hurt we probably wouldve come up short in typical Jet fashion at the hands of Parcells 2 big free agent signings that year...S Steve Atwater and TE Tim Green, 2 awful signings Green sucked but Atwater was fine. That team was stacked they went 8-8 with Rick Mirer and Ray Lucas at qb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdetroit Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 On June 23, 2016 at 4:51 PM, Savage69 said: They would have had to beat the Greatest show on Turf the Rams were scoring almost 33 points a game.. You mean the team that almost choked against McNair? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdetroit Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 On June 23, 2016 at 5:48 PM, Charlie Brown said: Despite the hostility out here. No way on God's green earth do Herm or Rex belong in this list. Insanity. One coach got us to the playoffs so long as his QB was healthy and Rex almost got us to a SB!!! Worst coaches!!! For example Kotite didn't know the players on his own team or would cut practices short to go golf!!! I think Herm would be a better college coach than pro. I don't know why he never tried Rex I can see why so many people love to hate him. He has his limitations but he's excellent at defensive X's and O's. If he gets fired after next season he'll have 5-6 job offers to be DC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjunc Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 On 6/23/2016 at 8:38 PM, Savage69 said: The reason we didn't have a first in 1991 for Farve was Rob Moore cost a 1st in the supplemental draft..Wolf would have taken Farve with a 1st pick if we had one.. On 6/23/2016 at 8:38 PM, Savage69 said: The reason we didn't have a first in 1991 for Farve was Rob Moore cost a 1st in the supplemental draft..Wolf would have taken Farve with a 1st pick if we had one.. we had a chance to get Favre anyway if we moved up, we sat back and Atl moved up but again I think favre would have been a disaster here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rexorcism Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 Green sucked but Atwater was fine. That team was stacked they went 8-8 with Rick Mirer and Ray Lucas at qb I thought he sucked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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