OH NO.....ITS ZANDER!!!!!! Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 Just now, Jetsfan80 said: Yeah, I've done as much setup gaming as I'm willing to do, and it's time to make a choice now based on actual gameplay. It's gotta be Leelou. Crush could have hammered Pac at anytime. Leelou has been steadfast about lynching Pac. Maybe she understands the setup like Zander does or something but I'm willing to lean towards there being no GF right now. Like you said, we can figure that out once we know for sure if there's an SK. Vote Leelou Why based on game play is Lee more Scummy then Pac? Bold makes absolutely 0 sense. TTTT = 2 Goons + Roleblocker TTT = 2 Goons + Roleblocker, Serial Killer (Investigation Immune OR 1-Shot Bulletproof) TT = Goon + Roleblocker + Godfather T = Goon + Roleblocker + Godfather, Serial Killer (Investigation Immune OR 1-Shot Bulletproof) 0 Ts = Goon + Roleblocker + Godfather How does knowing if theres an SK for sure tells us theres a GF?!?!!?!?!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 Gotta go with Crusher via game play Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OH NO.....ITS ZANDER!!!!!! Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 OK i give up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 3 minutes ago, OH NO.....ITS ZANDER!!!!!! said: How does knowing if theres an SK for sure tells us theres a GF?!?!!?!?!? It doesn't, but it tells us TWO possible reasons why Hess got a town result on Pac rather than just one. If we know there's an SK, we also know there's a possibility it's Pac with investigation immunity. If there's no SK we have to rely on Pac being GF. It provides 2 avenues for your theory on Pac being a bad guy to be correct. Make sense? I'm trying to see if Pac being Scum OR SK has good odds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OH NO.....ITS ZANDER!!!!!! Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 Just now, HessStation said: Gotta go with Crusher via game play Pac by far based on game play by far is the most Scummiest. But w/e Pac/Lee/Crush is my WTL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OH NO.....ITS ZANDER!!!!!! Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 Just now, Jetsfan80 said: It doesn't, but it tells us TWO possible reasons why Hess got a town result on Pac rather than just one. If we know there's an SK, we also know there's a possibility it's Pac with investigation immunity. If there's no SK we have to rely on Pac being GF. It provides 2 avenues for your theory on Pac being a bad guy to be correct. EVEN IF THERES NO SK THERE CAN STILL BE A GF THO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leelou Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 Am I dead? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 3 minutes ago, HessStation said: Gotta go with Crusher via game play Voting trends early in the game, yes. General scumminess no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leelou Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 Just now, OH NO.....ITS ZANDER!!!!!! said: EVEN IF THERES NO SK THERE CAN STILL BE A GF THO Yo 80, you scum bro? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OH NO.....ITS ZANDER!!!!!! Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 @Verbal @Verb PLEASE COME GIVE ME YOUR THOUGHTS!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 Just now, OH NO.....ITS ZANDER!!!!!! said: EVEN IF THERES NO SK THERE CAN STILL BE A GF THO I get that. But that limits the options to you being correct completely based on the 60 % odds of there being a GF AND that the GF is indeed Pac. It's possible, but not particularly likely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 1 minute ago, Leelou said: Yo 80, you scum bro? No, and I don't understand why what Zander says makes you suddenly do a 180 reversal on me, unless maybe you're flailing scum. Which is odd, since you were ready to lay down moments ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leelou Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 What. Is. the. Vote. Count? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OH NO.....ITS ZANDER!!!!!! Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 Just now, Jetsfan80 said: I get that. But that limits the options to you being correct completely based on the 60 % odds of there being a GF AND that the GF is indeed Pac. It's possible, but not particularly likely. Pac can also be SK. My point isnt just about Pac he could have peeked almost anyone else and Id feel the same way. Pac is the Scummiest player in this game period based on game play voting patterns and about 10 other things ive mentioned 100 times. But no one wants to walk down this road with me really so Ill have to go with either Leelou or Crush today I guess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gone Posted November 2, 2016 Author Share Posted November 2, 2016 I'm here... VC coming up shortly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 12 minutes ago, Leelou said: So am I, which is why it's Pac. Unless you're lying, then it's you. <3 u fatman Supposedly Hess vetted Pac. but then voted him anyways. So no idea there. Zander maybe? Only thing for sure is I know its not me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 2 minutes ago, OH NO.....ITS ZANDER!!!!!! said: Pac can also be SK. My point isnt just about Pac he could have peeked almost anyone else and Id feel the same way. Pac is the Scummiest player in this game period based on game play voting patterns and about 10 other things ive mentioned 100 times. But no one wants to walk down this road with me really so Ill have to go with either Leelou or Crush today I guess Yes, of course he can be SK. BUT I think we need another night to determine if there even is an SK, like Hess was saying. I'm not ruling out any of the possibilities you're suggesting. Just trying to determine what is MOST likely here, and see what things we can wait to figure out. Pac is someone we can wait one more day on as we collect more intel. Pac has indeed been the scummiest player of anyone remaining, and he'd 100 % be dead today if Hess hadn't come out with a town result on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 5 minutes ago, Leelou said: Yo 80, you scum bro? Oh if he is then he has bragging rights for the rest of the time we play mafia. Might make up for not having any va jay jay. Probably not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OH NO.....ITS ZANDER!!!!!! Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 Why would Pac refuse to claim in the L-1 situation as Town? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leelou Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 Just now, OH NO.....ITS ZANDER!!!!!! said: Why would Pac refuse to claim in the L-1 situation as Town? Because he's an asshat and has done it a few times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 Just now, OH NO.....ITS ZANDER!!!!!! said: Why would Pac refuse to claim in the L-1 situation as Town? Probably he felt he didnt need to because Hess vetted him. Yet voted him afterwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OH NO.....ITS ZANDER!!!!!! Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 Just now, Leelou said: Because he's an asshat and has done it a few times. Really? FML Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 Pac would rather f*ck over town when he isn't the leading reason for a town win. One time he held back a guilty result on me just to "make a game interesting", and laughed about it. It's just Pac being Pac, not alignment-indicative. In fact, it's probably even more of a signal that he's town. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OH NO.....ITS ZANDER!!!!!! Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 Just now, The Crusher said: Probably he felt he didnt need to because Hess vetted him. Yet voted him afterwards. I mean last night he was ITT posting and was at L-1 and didnt claim but I just seen Lee's response so i dont ******* know either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OH NO.....ITS ZANDER!!!!!! Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 Just now, Jetsfan80 said: Pac would rather f*ck over town when he isn't the leading reason for a town win. One time he held back a guilty result on me just to "make a game interesting", and laughed about it. It's just Pac being Pac, not alignment-indicative. In fact, it's probably even more of a signal that he's town. This is why im such a big fan of Meta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 Just now, OH NO.....ITS ZANDER!!!!!! said: This is why im such a big fan of Meta. It's certainly helpful to players new to JN Mafia, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OH NO.....ITS ZANDER!!!!!! Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 Well @Leelou and @The Crusher since Pac isnt happening today: Closing arguments? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leelou Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 *sings that Shaggy song* It wasn't me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OH NO.....ITS ZANDER!!!!!! Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 Just now, Jetsfan80 said: It's certainly helpful to players new to JN Mafia, lol. I will admit I find it pretty funny most everyone here makes jokes about using Meta when the reads here are mostly based off of Meta reads from everyone lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gone Posted November 2, 2016 Author Share Posted November 2, 2016 OFFICIAL VOTE COUNT Lee (4): Pac, Smash, 80, Crusher Pac (3): Verbal, Lee, Zander Crusher (1): Hess With 8 players alive, it takes 5 to lynch Deadline: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gone Posted November 2, 2016 Author Share Posted November 2, 2016 If you spot a mistake in the VC, please LMK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OH NO.....ITS ZANDER!!!!!! Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 Just now, Leelou said: *sings that Shaggy song* It wasn't me 7 out of 10 Kevin Bacon Heads Crush youre up!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 1 minute ago, Leelou said: *sings that Shaggy song* It wasn't me Interesting choice, given that Shaggy is clearly guilty in the song. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OH NO.....ITS ZANDER!!!!!! Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 Just now, Nynaeve said: If you spot a mistake in the VC, please LMK unvote Love ya Nyn!!!! <3 <3 <3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 1 minute ago, OH NO.....ITS ZANDER!!!!!! said: Well @Leelou and @The Crusher since Pac isnt happening today: Closing arguments? I suspected leelou early in the game because of her dancing around the Ape case. Even voted her a couple times. She never voted me and called me town early. She stayed on Pac. Didnt move after Hess kinda sorta cleared Pac. Yet all that may mean nothing considering hess voted Pac. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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