stormshadow19 Posted March 17, 2006 Share Posted March 17, 2006 Another question. Since i took that QB/WR in round 2, how do you guys go about judging that pick? I have no idea who the judges are, actually. I believe Smizzy does know. Either way, the judging is based on value, team need, and all that. He, obviously fit a need, replacing Randel El... so, it was a good pick, for what you want it to be. I'm not sure how it'll be judged though. You're askin the wrong cat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Jets & Ham Posted March 17, 2006 Share Posted March 17, 2006 While Ham had a good draft... Vernon Davis, TE D'Qwell Jackson, MLB Joe Toledo, OT I've had a damn good draft too. As have alot of people here. The judges are going to have a real tough time deciding on who gets that Nugent 8x10 If I don't win the picture there should be an investigation This is the best mock I ever had based on value and need ... by far In all of my years of competing in mock drafts, I have never had one that even approaches this I stole Tamba Hali at 22 when he's closer to a TOP 15 Prospect I Got Santonio Holmes in about the right spot ... a little bit of a bargain at 29 Then I flatout heisted Jason Allen late in RD 2 ... close to a round later than his actual projection Then I did the same thing with McCargo .. got him at least a RD later than his grade .. bigger heist than Allen And all four players fill huge needs for my team ... so it's impossible to have a better draft BUT ... I do love the draft you are having, storm ... no kidding ... I love it I love all three players you drafted ... Davis, Jackson and Toledo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Jets & Ham Posted March 17, 2006 Share Posted March 17, 2006 Ham, what do you think the Steelers biggest need this year is? You would know better than me, SP I would say probably corner, wideout and safety ... is that about right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Troll Posted March 17, 2006 Share Posted March 17, 2006 I would have jumped on McCargo with my last pick had I not already stolen Rod Wright. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillerPaul Posted March 17, 2006 Share Posted March 17, 2006 You would know better than me, SP I would say probably corner, wideout and safety ... is that about right? Well i think we're set at corner with Ike Taylor, De'Shea Townsend, Bryant McFadden and Ricardo Colclough. Is that an adequate secondary in your opinion? At WR we have meatballs after Hines Ward but we usually always are thin there. I have no idea how good Ryan Clarke is (Safety we signed from the Redskins), do you? I just wanted to pick your brain a bit on who you felt would fit best with us in the first 3 rounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Hasty Posted March 17, 2006 Share Posted March 17, 2006 While Ham had a good draft... Vernon Davis, TE D'Qwell Jackson, MLB Joe Toledo, OT I've had a damn good draft too. As have alot of people here. The judges are going to have a real tough time deciding on who gets that Nugent 8x10 Not too hard though. Davis was a good pick but you passed on Vince Young. Jackson was another good pick but you passed on Donte Whitner Toledo was another good pick but you passed on Derek Hagan. This weekend I guess I will have to make room on my mantle for that Nugent pic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Troll Posted March 17, 2006 Share Posted March 17, 2006 Not too hard though. Davis was a good pick but you passed on Vince Young. Jackson was another good pick but you passed on Donte Whitner Toledo was another good pick but you passed on Derek Hagan. This weekend I guess I will have to make room on my mantle for that Nugent pic. Do you think Robert Gallery will be there for you in the 4th round? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Jets & Ham Posted March 17, 2006 Share Posted March 17, 2006 Well i think we're set at corner with Ike Taylor, De'Shea Townsend, Bryant McFadden and Ricardo Colclough. Is that an adequate secondary in your opinion? At WR we have meatballs after Hines Ward but we usually always are thin there. I have no idea how good Ryan Clarke is (Safety we signed from the Redskins), do you? I just wanted to pick your brain a bit on who you felt would fit best with us in the first 3 rounds. It's hard to say, SP ... you know your team better than me Maybe a lineman to replace Olhoffen? I don't think Clarke is much, so I would look for another safety And I would definitely be looking for a wideout Wouldn't mind adding another corner as well, but Ike Taylor has an upside Just a few areas I might consider, but you know the Steelers better than me OH YEAH ... and a BIG RB ... I'd be looking for one of those to compliment Parker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Hasty Posted March 17, 2006 Share Posted March 17, 2006 Do you think Robert Gallery will be there for you in the 4th round? The way this draft is falling you never know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikeyman3 Posted March 17, 2006 Share Posted March 17, 2006 If I don't win the picture there should be an investigation This is the best mock I ever had based on value and need ... by far In all of my years of competing in mock drafts, I have never had one that even approaches this I stole Tamba Hali at 22 when he's closer to a TOP 15 Prospect I Got Santonio Holmes in about the right spot ... a little bit of a bargain at 29 Then I flatout heisted Jason Allen late in RD 2 ... close to a round later than his actual projection Then I did the same thing with McCargo .. got him at least a RD later than his grade .. bigger heist than Allen And all four players fill huge needs for my team ... so it's impossible to have a better draft BUT ... I do love the draft you are having, storm ... no kidding ... I love it I love all three players you drafted ... Davis, Jackson and Toledo I like my Bronco mock draft better B. Bunkley C. Jackson J. Addai R. Edwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Jets & Ham Posted March 17, 2006 Share Posted March 17, 2006 I would have jumped on McCargo with my last pick had I not already stolen Rod Wright. Please send my regards to Rod Wright Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Jets & Ham Posted March 17, 2006 Share Posted March 17, 2006 I like my Bronco mock draft better B. Bunkley C. Jackson J. Addai R. Edwards. No cigar, Ike ... mine blows that off the map :wink: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Jets & Ham Posted March 17, 2006 Share Posted March 17, 2006 Honest truth, after the first fout picks {Hali, Holmes, Allen and McCargo}, I feel like I'm playing with house money ... anything else is gravy ... but this draft is already solidified as an "A+" Grade Worse I can do the rest of the way is lower it to an "A" if I'm completely drunk for the rest of my picks, but don't bet on it fellas ... even drunk I am the king of all draftniks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stormshadow19 Posted March 17, 2006 Share Posted March 17, 2006 Not too hard though. Davis was a good pick but you passed on Vince Young. Jackson was another good pick but you passed on Donte Whitner Toledo was another good pick but you passed on Derek Hagan. This weekend I guess I will have to make room on my mantle for that Nugent pic. Don't need a QB, and I'm not a fan of Vince Young. I don't think he's going to be good. That and Davis is a freak athlete, and fits a need the Lions have. I don't need Whitner, as I have a SS in Kennoy Kennedy. And, I don't have a MLB, and Jackson is the best one in the draft. The last thing the Lions need is another drafted WR And, Toledo could very well beat out Kelly Butler for the right tackle spot. So, going by that, I had a much better draft than your Chargers did Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Hasty Posted March 17, 2006 Share Posted March 17, 2006 Don't need a QB, and I'm not a fan of Vince Young. I don't think he's going to be good. That and Davis is a freak athlete, and fits a need the Lions have. I don't need Whitner, as I have a SS in Kennoy Kennedy. And, I don't have a MLB, and Jackson is the best one in the draft. The last thing the Lions need is another drafted WR And, Toledo could very well beat out Kelly Butler for the right tackle spot. So, going by that, I had a much better draft than your Chargers did Watch Millen draft another WR on day one though. Just wait for it. Also, keep in mind that you drafted 10 spots ahead of me in each round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stormshadow19 Posted March 17, 2006 Share Posted March 17, 2006 Watch Millen draft another WR on day one though. Just wait for it. Also, keep in mind that you drafted 10 spots ahead of me in each round. So, are you looking for a handicap? Keep in mind, you've got more picks than I do in this draft Millen isn't going to draft another Day 1 WR. There's nowhere to put him. All the WR spots are taken, on the roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderbirdJet Posted March 17, 2006 Share Posted March 17, 2006 With two first round picks, it's easy to look good, Ham! Although you also stepped in **** with the other guys that fell. I still like my Rams' draft too though. I went with a rsik pick with Manny Lawlor in the first round, but Ko Simpson and Fasano were also blatantly great values where I got them. Manny could be this year's Merriman, and makes it possible for Linehan to play a 3-4, 4-3 hybrid, Ko Simpson and the FA signing of Chavous shores up the safety spot nicely after losing Archeleta, and the Rams signned the Saints' CB for help there. Given the players available, and the Rams' needs, it played out very well so far. They signed Glover to replace Pickett, and Jimmy Kennedy will be given the chance to be the slant nose (4-3) and or the NT in a 3-4 rotation. If he can stay healthy, the run D should be much better up the middle. They, like everyone else could have used Ngata, but there is only one true 3-4 NT in this draft. I think once it's all done, each of us should make a case for our drafts. Passing on Croyle worked out too, with the signing of Frerotte. I want that Nugent pic! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted March 17, 2006 Share Posted March 17, 2006 Honest truth, after the first fout picks {Hali, Holmes, Allen and McCargo}, I feel like I'm playing with house money ... anything else is gravy ... but this draft is already solidified as an "A+" Grade Worse I can do the rest of the way is lower it to an "A" if I'm completely drunk for the rest of my picks, but don't bet on it fellas ... even drunk I am the king of all draftniks Get over yourself already. Try drafting for a team that has 11 holes who's "forced" into taking a position that's not a need with their first pick (#1 in the draft) & then pat yourself on the back. When you have 5 guys equally ranked & all of them fill a position of need then you've got actual decisions to make. If I was drafting for need-only, I'd have taken Brick #1 since Domanick Davis is more than adequate at HB. So should I have passed on Reggie Bush b/c he doesn't fill a hole? Pass on the "it" player? Nonsense. I secured Reggie Bush with temptation to fill a hole at LT there with Brick; Antonio Cromartie/Daniel Bullocks: with Dunta Robinson, turned their secondary from pass-at-will to pass-at-your-own-risk; Still got Daryn Colledge who I think will be an excellent LT; Mark Setterstrom - perfect for Kubiak's zone blocking & addresses the loss of Milford Brown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WW85 Posted March 17, 2006 Share Posted March 17, 2006 I'm thrilled to get Maurice Drew at the end of rd 3. IMO, clearly the BPA!!! My draft isn't too shabby for the Seahawks...addressed some needs with solid players. I'm giving Ham a run for his money!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CluJet Posted March 17, 2006 Share Posted March 17, 2006 On the Watkins pick - Doss is on his way out next year, and Watkins could prove to be a solid backup, eventually replacing Doss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikeyman3 Posted March 17, 2006 Share Posted March 17, 2006 I SOOOO wanted to take a QB but I needed to pick a LB. It sucks when you can't pick BPA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barton Posted March 17, 2006 Share Posted March 17, 2006 Ham, nice pick. I thought about McCargo for my 3rd rd pick, but it didnt last long, I dont see him as a 3-4 dlineman. But for the broncos in the 4-3 that was a good pick. I think my next pick, some will call a reach. But he's a high upside player and it fills a need. And I think after the draft is over, this pick will be taken well before the Jets 4th rd pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smizzy Posted March 17, 2006 Author Share Posted March 17, 2006 Mock Draft Gm's....Rds 4-7 are 1hr picks. So be ready to move fast from here on out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barton Posted March 17, 2006 Share Posted March 17, 2006 Mock Draft Gm's....Rds 4-7 are 1hr picks. So be ready to move fast from here on out. Do you guys have an order for rds 4 - 7 ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted March 17, 2006 Share Posted March 17, 2006 Round 4 1 97 Texans 2 98 Saints 3 99 49ers 4 100 Raiders 5 101 Titans 6 102 Jets 7 103 Packers 8 104 Bills 9 105 Patriots 10 106 Cardinals 11 107 Eagles 12 108 Rams 13 109 Browns 14 110 Ravens 15 111 Falcons 16 112 Chargers 17 113 Dolphins 18 114 Vikings 19 115 Eagles 20 116 Jets 21 117 Patriots 22 118 Broncos 23 119 Bears 24 120 Panthers 25 121 Bucs 26 122 Bengals 27 123 Giants 28 124 Jaguars 29 125 Broncos 30 126 Eagles 31 127 Seahawks 32 128 Steelers Round 5 1 129 Texans 2 130 Saints 3 131 Patriots 4 132 Titans 5 133 Jets 6 134 Packers 7 135 49ers 8 136 Lions 9 137 Cardinals 10 138 Bills 11 139 Rams 12 140 Browns 13 141 Ravens 14 142 Eagles 15 143 Falcons 16 144 Dolphins 17 145 Vikings 18 146 Cowboys 19 147 Chargers 20 148 Browns 21 149 Redskins 22 150 Chiefs 23 151 Panthers 24 152 Bucs 25 153 Bengals 26 154 Giants 27 155 Bears 28 156 Jaguars 29 157 Broncos 30 158 Colts 31 159 Seahawks 32 160 Steelers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stormshadow19 Posted March 17, 2006 Share Posted March 17, 2006 Do you guys have an order for rds 4 - 7 ?? Mostly, I'm just making it up... Check the Mock Draft Picks thread. I've got the order for rounds 4, 5, and 6 up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barton Posted March 17, 2006 Share Posted March 17, 2006 Mostly, I'm just making it up... Check the Mock Draft Picks thread. I've got the order for rounds 4, 5, and 6 up. Oh ok. I forgot but I have 2 4th rd picks, that is good. I know we have had our differences here, but you have done a good job monitoring these picks and putting toegether the list of players taken by position. Now if only you could make your own picks when you put yourself OTC.... BTW I think I get the lions 6th or 7th rd pick from the McGraw trade! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stormshadow19 Posted March 17, 2006 Share Posted March 17, 2006 Actually, the Redskins one slipped my mind. And, I really didn't want to be the Skins. Smizzy made me do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Preston Howley III Posted March 17, 2006 Share Posted March 17, 2006 Round one through three is just BAP. It doesn't require any discernment, it's a process of elimination. These guys sell tickets. Round 4-7 are the guys you win championships with. These are the selections we'll be judged on. DROP YOUR C*CKS AND GRAB YOUR SOCKS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderbirdJet Posted March 17, 2006 Share Posted March 17, 2006 Round one through three is just BAP. It doesn't require any discernment, it's a process of elimination. These guys sell tickets. Round 4-7 are the guys you win championships with. These are the selections we'll be judged on. DROP YOUR C*CKS AND GRAB YOUR SOCKS! Wow.... I disagree with that statement so much I don't know where to start. Team need must always be balanced with BAP, unless the BAP is a long shot better than what's left. I think what rules NOW is BAP. The hard part is knowing which guy IS the BAP. If there are only dregs left in a position of need, now is the time to look elsewhere for the BAP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stormshadow19 Posted March 17, 2006 Share Posted March 17, 2006 I think JM is half right. The talent between rounds 1 and 3... there really isn't that much of a drop off. 4-7 do tell if you can become a championship team or not. But... you draft for need in the first few rounds, to an extent. You don't always draft based on need. For instance, if I were the Lions, I would have drafted a DT or a MLB. Those are needs. TE really wasn't a major need. But, taking Gabe Watson or D'Qwell Jackson at number nine would have been a major reach. Vernon Davis isn't. That's why I say he's half right. It's a mix of need and BAP in the first three rounds, around 50/50. There after, it's 70/30 BAP... maybe even 80/20. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barton Posted March 17, 2006 Share Posted March 17, 2006 Looks like I get the Lions 7th rd pick from the McGraw trade. http://www.packerchatters.com/home/index.php?option=content&task=view&id=272 But now we got Ramsey, so the redskins have the Jets 6th rd pick. Somebody should make duntas pick now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stormshadow19 Posted March 17, 2006 Share Posted March 17, 2006 Somebody should make duntas pick now... Working on that, as we speak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunta_23 Posted March 17, 2006 Share Posted March 17, 2006 Sorry guys..I just got on to the site now..good pick tho..was looking for an OLB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetlag Posted March 18, 2006 Share Posted March 18, 2006 Can we call a timeout for St. Drunkey's day? I doubt I'll be alive until like 5pm tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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