jgb Posted yesterday at 08:19 AM Share Posted yesterday at 08:19 AM 7 hours ago, Rich Thornburgh said: As great as Mahomes is I still highly doubt he becomes what he is now with the Jets None of us would be exactly the same if something was changed about our life’s journey but Mahomes would absolutely, without a doubt still be effing great. His greatness is of the type that quite simply couldn’t be stopped by any level of incompetence. So while I understand the sentiment and it does make one feel a little better for passing on the greatest QB of the modern era for a bloody box safety… it’s just an emotional salve, friend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roscoeword Posted yesterday at 09:47 AM Share Posted yesterday at 09:47 AM The only qb I recall who was touted as a generational talent and really was pretty great right away was Andrew Luck 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARodJetsFan Posted yesterday at 12:49 PM Author Share Posted yesterday at 12:49 PM 11 hours ago, Rich Thornburgh said: Penix is going to be the best qb of this draft class I’ve been saying it forever Penix reminds me alot of Anthony Richardson with the Colts, loads of talent - but can he stay healthy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Thornburgh Posted yesterday at 03:14 PM Share Posted yesterday at 03:14 PM 2 hours ago, ARodJetsFan said: Penix reminds me alot of Anthony Richardson with the Colts, loads of talent - but can he stay healthy? Huh? Those two guys are very different players. Richardson is basically a Cam Newton clone. Penix is drop back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARodJetsFan Posted yesterday at 04:38 PM Author Share Posted yesterday at 04:38 PM 1 hour ago, Rich Thornburgh said: Huh? Those two guys are very different players. Richardson is basically a Cam Newton clone. Penix is drop back. Have to admit, I never really watched Penix, but I was under the impression that he was a "mobile" QB that liked to run a lot, from highlights of him that were shown during the draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ARodJetsFan Posted 17 hours ago Author Share Posted 17 hours ago 16 minutes ago, Larz said: Rome Odunze? DJ Moore? DeAndre Carter? None of these guys could get open? Sure, alright. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe W. Namath Posted 17 hours ago Share Posted 17 hours ago 27 minutes ago, Larz said: This is the equivalent of the "Quinnen Williams gets double teamed" excuse. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted 16 hours ago Share Posted 16 hours ago 15 minutes ago, ARodJetsFan said: Rome Odunze? DJ Moore? DeAndre Carter? None of these guys could get open? Sure, alright. Ask chase. He watched the film 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe W. Namath Posted 15 hours ago Share Posted 15 hours ago Bears gm is a joke. He passed on oline for Odunze. He thought a combination of 2 guys who have no clue what they are doing in Eberdoof/Waldron could develop a young qb. This is a guy who traded the #1 overall pick instead of staying and taking cj stroud. He will get canned right after the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Thornburgh Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago On 9/18/2024 at 2:19 AM, jgb said: None of us would be exactly the same if something was changed about our life’s journey but Mahomes would absolutely, without a doubt still be effing great. His greatness is of the type that quite simply couldn’t be stopped by any level of incompetence. So while I understand the sentiment and it does make one feel a little better for passing on the greatest QB of the modern era for a bloody box safety… it’s just an emotional salve, friend. I don’t necessarily disagree but sub out Andy Reid with Todd Bowles and Adam Gase 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 7 minutes ago, Rich Thornburgh said: I don’t necessarily disagree but sub out Andy Reid with Todd Bowles and Adam Gase Never would’ve had a Gase era if Macc drafted Mahomes. Bowles would still be here. He’s done fine with Baker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted 55 minutes ago Share Posted 55 minutes ago This year's rookie first round qb class has zero touchdown passes to date. The NFL is hard, people. As well, scoring is down overall, again. I am guessing the league will shorten the playing field to 80 yards next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeNamathsFurCoat Posted 53 minutes ago Share Posted 53 minutes ago 14 hours ago, Joe W. Namath said: Bears gm is a joke. He passed on oline for Odunze. He thought a combination of 2 guys who have no clue what they are doing in Eberdoof/Waldron could develop a young qb. This is a guy who traded the #1 overall pick instead of staying and taking cj stroud. He will get canned right after the season. I was saying before the draft how I didn't believe the Bears would ignore their OL after seeing Fields running for his life for 3 years. I thought we'd have a crack at Odunze if we wanted him I was wrong 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BreeceHallofFame Posted 53 minutes ago Share Posted 53 minutes ago I had a feeling Odunze wasn’t going to be able to separate in the NFL… Caleb Williams is just a grade-A egomaniac douche. I hope he fails though he is talented. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Thornburgh Posted 51 minutes ago Share Posted 51 minutes ago 1 minute ago, BreeceHallofFame said: I had a feeling Odunze wasn’t going to be able to separate in the NFL… Shoulda drafted MHJ and Penix. SOB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeNamathsFurCoat Posted 51 minutes ago Share Posted 51 minutes ago 1 minute ago, Scott Dierking said: This year's rookie first round qb class has zero touchdown passes to date. The NFL is hard, people. As well, scoring is down overall, again. I am guessing the league will shorten the playing field to 80 yards next year. Caleb has a lot of arm talent, but CJ Stroud is far superior in terms of his innate ability as a pocket passer. Stroud looks like a "generational" type talent at the QB position. He came into the league ready to go. Williams and these other guys like Daniels are gonna have to learn how to succeed from the pocket at least somewhat. In the NFL it's hard to live and die on out-of-structure plays. Mahomes' play from the pocket is underrated and overlooked because of what he is also able to do when things break down. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oatmeal Posted 48 minutes ago Share Posted 48 minutes ago 3 minutes ago, JoeNamathsFurCoat said: Caleb has a lot of arm talent, but CJ Stroud is far superior in terms of his innate ability as a pocket passer. Stroud looks like a "generational" type talent at the QB position. He came into the league ready to go. Williams and these other guys like Daniels are gonna have to learn how to succeed from the pocket at least somewhat. In the NFL it's hard to live and die on out-of-structure plays. Mahomes' play from the pocket is underrated and overlooked because of what he is also able to do when things break down. JF is ahead as a passer than Caleb is at this point and more athletic. Bears just moving backwards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BreeceHallofFame Posted 46 minutes ago Share Posted 46 minutes ago Mahomes is just a rare dude. He isn’t fast but he is harder to tackle than Big Ben and Vick combined and his downfield vision is like NEO in the Matrix. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Thornburgh Posted 45 minutes ago Share Posted 45 minutes ago 3 minutes ago, JoeNamathsFurCoat said: Caleb has a lot of arm talent, but CJ Stroud is far superior in terms of his innate ability as a pocket passer. Stroud looks like a "generational" type talent at the QB position. He came into the league ready to go. Williams and these other guys like Daniels are gonna have to learn how to succeed from the pocket at least somewhat. In the NFL it's hard to live and die on out-of-structure plays. Mahomes' play from the pocket is underrated and overlooked because of what he is also able to do when things break down. Bears are botching Caleb by trying to make him a drop back passer. That’s not what he was at USC and Oklahoma. They need to utilize him as a running qb similar to what the ravens do with Lamar Jackson. But then again the bears are a complete crapshow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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