SALEH FIRED

[BeaconJet]

8 minutes ago, Asymmetrical said:

Kind of a tangent but Nate Tice's podcast touched on the Saleh thing/the problem with the Jets offense. Basically his diagnoses is Rodgers is playing his favorite hits with the playcalling but it's all stuff that modern defenses have figured out. It worked with Lafleur because there was another adult in the room to synthesize the way he likes to play with 2024 concepts but here they don't have anyone to get him out of his comfort zone. 

Piggybacking on this, NFL Network had talked about how Hackett would give Rodgers three plays to choose from each down, and let him make the decision.  If the above is accurate, and Rodgers is picking his outdated favorites, maybe that needs to change asap.

[TuscanyTile2]

46 minutes ago, Jet_Engine1 said:

The way Denver and Minn played Defense is what teams are going to do for the rest of the season - and fundamentally the same as what they've been doing for the last 3 years but for different reasons - out-man the O-Line and blitz the sh*t out of the QB every play. For Zach, it was "make him uncomfortable and he'll throw us the ball". For Rodgers its, "he's 40 years old and can't move anymore and is skittish about being hit". SO far, its worked.

 

How do you beat that? SCREENS. Who made his name on screen plays? Corley. But lets play Lil' Gipper and pretend Rodgers is 30 and Allen Lazard is Jordy Nelson. LOL. 

 

Go get Adams TODAY and start utilizing Corley in a similar fashion Deebo was used early in his career. Enough with the garbage like "he doesn't know the route tree - need work on routes". Shut up. Design some screens for him, it's what he's REALLY good at and hurt them when they blitz FFS> This is Football 101 FFS. 

 

And Ulbrich hopefully has a clue. Because Saleh didn't and Hackett is garbage. 

How much of a route tree does a WR need to run for a screen pass anyway?  Lol.

Btw, you writing about the Denver and Minny defenses reminded me again about the Salesman.  He loved to excuse losses because "we played a good opponent".  A good HC figures out a way for his team to win games against good teams/defenses/etc.  I'm still sickened by that line he said after the loss to the 49ers where he said something about how the Jets would've gotten 2 additional TDs were it not for Fred Warner.  Something about how it would've worked against 25 other teams.  Does he realize that, in order for a team to win a SB, you have to be able to beat top teams/defenses/etc?!

[Jet_Engine1]

3 minutes ago, TuscanyTile2 said:

How much of a route tree does a WR need to run for a screen pass anyway?  Lol.

Btw, you writing about the Denver and Minny defenses reminded me again about the Salesman.  He loved to excuse losses because "we played a good opponent".  A good HC figures out a way for his team to win games against good teams/defenses/etc.  I'm still sickened by that line he said after the loss to the 49ers where he said something about how the Jets would've gotten 2 additional TDs were it not for Fred Warner.  Something about how it would've worked against 25 other teams.  Does he realize that, in order for a team to win a SB, you have to be able to beat top teams/defenses/etc?!

LOL. Or, um... ACCOUNT for the fact that Fred Warner is on the team you're playing against that day, not those 30 other teams that don't have possibly the best LB in the game. He damned himself with most of his excuses. 

[TuscanyTile2]

1 hour ago, Augustiniak said:

I think one big debate about saleh’s worth is whether or not it’s his defense or ulbrich’s.  If saleh’s not responsible for the defense’s performance then there should be no downside to removing him.  If saleh’s best attributes are managerial and motivational, he’s failed on both counts. 

I guess we'll find out if the Jets' defense suffers losing Saleh, starting on MNF.  Tbh, I'm not the least bit worried about it.

[TuscanyTile2]

28 minutes ago, Jet_Engine1 said:

LOL. Or, um... ACCOUNT for the fact that Fred Warner is on the team you're playing against that day, not those 30 other teams that don't have possibly the best LB in the game. He damned himself with most of his excuses. 

If Saleh ran the offense he'd say something like "that's not how our offense works".

[JetPotato]

36 minutes ago, TuscanyTile2 said:

How much of a route tree does a WR need to run for a screen pass anyway?  Lol.

Btw, you writing about the Denver and Minny defenses reminded me again about the Salesman.  He loved to excuse losses because "we played a good opponent".  A good HC figures out a way for his team to win games against good teams/defenses/etc.  I'm still sickened by that line he said after the loss to the 49ers where he said something about how the Jets would've gotten 2 additional TDs were it not for Fred Warner.  Something about how it would've worked against 25 other teams.  Does he realize that, in order for a team to win a SB, you have to be able to beat top teams/defenses/etc?!

That's the real problem. Our path to the Super Bowl every year is riddled with good teams on the schedule. One of these years, we're going to get a nice easy regular season schedule and then get only the bad playoff teams. I just know it.

[SomebodytoAnybody47]

1 hour ago, Asymmetrical said:

Rodgers famously, famously doesn't enjoy playing with rookie WR. He loathed what now looks like a fantastic wide receiver room in Green Bay two years ago if you remember. Good, bad or indifferent, I don't think Corley is gonna see much playing time or the ball if he is out there.

 

Kind of a tangent but Nate Tice's podcast touched on the Saleh thing/the problem with the Jets offense. Basically his diagnoses is Rodgers is playing his favorite hits with the playcalling but it's all stuff that modern defenses have figured out. It worked with Lafleur because there was another adult in the room to synthesize the way he likes to play with 2024 concepts but here they don't have anyone to get him out of his comfort zone. 

While true...the offense as a whole, also, is just not executing. 

 

It's play after play, shooting themselves in the foot. And thats on everyone, coaches and players. It shouldn't be this sloppy week after week.

[Larz]

Jets fans : fire Saleh!

Jets fire Saleh 

Jets fans : wHAt a cLoWN cAR!

[TuscanyTile2]

24 minutes ago, JetPotato said:

That's the real problem. Our path to the Super Bowl every year is riddled with good teams on the schedule. One of these years, we're going to get a nice easy regular season schedule and then get only the bad playoff teams. I just know it.

The funny thing is that this was the year we had the easy regular season schedule. 

Saleh couldn't beat the Broncos  at home with 10 days to prepare against a rookie QB but, hey, "it's early" and this is the nothing part of football.

[JetPotato]

1 hour ago, TuscanyTile2 said:

The funny thing is that this was the year we had the easy regular season schedule. 

Saleh couldn't beat the Broncos  at home with 10 days to prepare against a rookie QB but, hey, "it's early" and this is the nothing part of football.

Whenever he spoke about the "tough defense" the Jets faced, I always wondered what he thought the defenses in the playoffs would be like.

[Larz]

Rodgers took accountability.  Sauce too. I wonder if G5 will. 
 

 

[TuscanyTile2]

In a way, this season has worked out beautifully so far.  My biggest concern about this team going into the season was Saleh.  I absolutely didn't believe in him but I still thought that the team had enough talent to win enough games in spite of him.  I was worried he'd get an unearned extension and we'd be stuck with him for another 3-4 years.  That concern is now off the table though (hallelujah!) while the team is still in position to be in 1st place with a win on MNF against the Bills.

PERFECT!

[TuscanyTile2]

16 hours ago, Larz said:

Rodgers took accountability.  Sauce too. I wonder if G5 will. 
 

"This is the nothing part of football" = "great coach and true leader".

 

[Matt39]

23 minutes ago, TuscanyTile2 said:

In a way, this season has worked out beautifully so far.  My biggest concern about this team going into the season was Saleh.  I absolutely didn't believe in him but I still thought that the team had enough talent to win enough games in spite of him.  I was worried he'd get an unearned extension and we'd be stuck with him for another 3-4 years.  That concern is now off the table though (hallelujah!) while the team is still in position to be in 1st place with a win on MNF against the Bills.

PERFECT!

What happens to the compound?

https://www.realtor.com/news/celebrity-real-estate/new-york-jets-robert-saleh-fired-home/

[The Voice of Reason]

3 minutes ago, Matt39 said:

What happens to the compound?

https://www.realtor.com/news/celebrity-real-estate/new-york-jets-robert-saleh-fired-home/

He lives in it till next year or the year after... He still has a year left on his contract from what I read. And offset language so he can do nothing and get paid or get a new job and still make the same amount 

[Matt39]

Just now, The Voice of Reason said:

He lives in it till next year or the year after... He still has a year left on his contract from what I read. And offset language so he can do nothing and get paid or get a new job and still make the same amount 

Per that article he bought a huge plot of land there too. I still think he goes the TV route.

[The Voice of Reason]

8 minutes ago, Matt39 said:

Per that article he bought a huge plot of land there too. I still think he goes the TV route.

Maybe... He is in no rush. 

[TuscanyTile2]

15 minutes ago, Matt39 said:

What happens to the compound?

https://www.realtor.com/news/celebrity-real-estate/new-york-jets-robert-saleh-fired-home/

[TuscanyTile2]

13 minutes ago, The Voice of Reason said:

He lives in it till next year or the year after... He still has a year left on his contract from what I read. And offset language so he can do nothing and get paid or get a new job and still make the same amount 

Norm Macdonald said that the "perfect joke" is when the set-up and punchline are identical.

[TuscanyTile2]

12 minutes ago, Matt39 said:

Per that article he bought a huge plot of land there too. I still think he goes the TV route.

He'd be perfect for TV.  He's so full of hot air.

[Rangers9]

Saleh says he's going to take a vacation not work for any team this season and prepare for the open market next season. And he's being accused of showing coolness and class after getting fired. Maybe the reason he's cool is that he's relieved getting out of an almost impossible situation with Woody, Rodgers, Hackett etc. John Lynch of the 49ers had only good things to say about him and denied rumors in the Bay Area that he'd like to sign Saleh to either take over the SF defense or take on an advisory role. Because so far this year their defense stinks. But it sounded like after the season not surprised if Saleh returns there. Also rumors about the Eagles. 

[Maxman]

2 minutes ago, Rangers9 said:

Saleh says he's going to take a vacation not work for any team this season and prepare for the open market next season. And he's being accused of showing coolness and class after getting fired. Maybe the reason he's cool is that he's relieved getting out of an almost impossible situation with Woody, Rodgers, Hackett etc. John Lynch of the 49ers had only good things to say about him and denied rumors in the Bay Area that he'd like to sign Saleh to either take over the SF defense or take on an advisory role. Because so far this year their defense stinks. But it sounded like after the season not surprised if Saleh returns there. Also rumors about the Eagles. 

Makes a ton of sense for him to get back there as a DC. Saleh is a classy guy who is a great defensive coordinator. Any Jets coach is in a tough spot. He could take a year off and enjoy life. Wouldn't be a terrible decision for him.