Jetsfan80 Posted October 1, 2006 Share Posted October 1, 2006 (:08) (Shotgun) C.Pennington pass short middle to L.Washington to NYJ 40 for 8 yards [D.Freeney]. Lateral to B.Smith to NYJ 37 for -3 yards. Lateral to L.Coles to IND 44 for 19 yards. Lateral to C.Pennington to IND 37 for 7 yards. Lateral to J.McCareins to IND 35 for 2 yards. FUMBLES, recovered by NYJ-B.Smith at IND 33. B.Smith to IND 37 for -4 yards. FUMBLES, recovered by NYJ-L.Coles at IND 40. L.Coles to IND 27 for 13 yards. Lateral to N.Mangold to IND 27 for no gain. FUMBLES, RECOVERED by Colts. Wow. All we needed was the Colts band to come onto the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serphnx Posted October 1, 2006 Share Posted October 1, 2006 If only we had started at the 20, and not the 2, I wonder if we'd have been in position to kick the FG. Instead of people blaming Mangini, maybe we should blame the players for such a boneheaded move at the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted October 1, 2006 Author Share Posted October 1, 2006 If only we had started at the 20, and not the 2, I wonder if we'd have been in position to kick the FG. Instead of people blaming Mangini, maybe we should blame the players for such a boneheaded move at the end. serphnx, who's blaming anyone? I'm not putting anyone down for that play at the end, it was a great effort, and in no way "boneheaded". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Troll Posted October 1, 2006 Share Posted October 1, 2006 If only we had started at the 20, and not the 2, I wonder if we'd have been in position to kick the FG. Instead of people blaming Mangini, maybe we should blame the players for such a boneheaded move at the end. I don't think they let you kick field goals with no time on the clock. It would be nice, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serphnx Posted October 1, 2006 Share Posted October 1, 2006 I don't think they let you kick field goals with no time on the clock. It would be nice, though. We had 50 seconds. I mean on the kickoff, why were we at the 2? Wasn't it a mistake on a Jets player? I didn't see the game, I read the PBP off nfl.com, and looked at our PBP thread on JN. It sounded like it was a mistake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin Posted October 1, 2006 Share Posted October 1, 2006 (A) Should have gone for the field goal (duh). (.....Coles was flat on the field after that lateralling excercise.......that's all they would have needed to lose him too..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetCane Posted October 1, 2006 Share Posted October 1, 2006 That was the most organized Stanford-Cal play I ever saw. Came up short, but a great effort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetsrule128 Posted October 1, 2006 Share Posted October 1, 2006 wasnt mangold not aloud to touch it being a o line guy? anyone have the video for it? i would love to see it again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted October 1, 2006 Share Posted October 1, 2006 If only we had started at the 20, and not the 2, I wonder if we'd have been in position to kick the FG. Instead of people blaming Mangini, maybe we should blame the players for such a boneheaded move at the end. It was a screwup that they started at the 2, but I'm not sure I blame Leon for taking it out. If another Jet player touched the ball before it enters the end zone, would it still be a touchback? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
war ensemble Posted October 1, 2006 Share Posted October 1, 2006 It was a screwup that they started at the 2, but I'm not sure I blame Leon for taking it out. If another Jet player touched the ball before it enters the end zone, would it still be a touchback? It wouldn't be a touchback, it'd be a safety. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted October 1, 2006 Share Posted October 1, 2006 It wouldn't be a touchback, it'd be a safety. Right, the way that ball bounced I couldn't tell if an up man touched it. Thanks to CBS I never saw a good replay and I'm pretty sure that Leon wasn't so sure it wasn't touched either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetCane Posted October 2, 2006 Share Posted October 2, 2006 Right, the way that ball bounced I couldn't tell if an up man touched it. Thanks to CBS I never saw a good replay and I'm pretty sure that Leon wasn't so sure it wasn't touched either. The radio guys were blaming Chatham for not fielding it cleanly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Troll Posted October 2, 2006 Share Posted October 2, 2006 The radio guys were blaming Chatham for not fielding it cleanly If so, there is no reason for Chatham to remain on the roster. Two straight weeks with a bonehead play from a guy that is here for special teams. Drop Chatham, bring back Myers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
war ensemble Posted October 2, 2006 Share Posted October 2, 2006 So Chatham touched it, or that's what everyone thinks? If so... it was a good move by Leon, he just waited forever to pick up the ball. If not, then it was a bonehead play by Leon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted October 2, 2006 Share Posted October 2, 2006 So Chatham touched it, or that's what everyone thinks? If so... it was a good move by Leon, he just waited forever to pick up the ball. If not, then it was a bonehead play by Leon. Seemed to be some confusion as to whether it was touched, also the other man back (was it Cotchery?) seemed to be ambivilent about whether he should take a knee. As Tex might say, it was a fluke. It's pretty rare for a pooch kick to make the end zone, especially by rolling by about 8 Jets. I'm sure they'll have them drilled on the situation this week. Chatham may well be gone for Meyers. I saw new guy Spencer in on some special teams plays, but I think Chatham might be a better LB than Meyers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
war ensemble Posted October 2, 2006 Share Posted October 2, 2006 Seemed to be some confusion as to whether it was touched, also the other man back (was it Cotchery?) seemed to be ambivilent about whether he should take a knee. As Tex might say, it was a fluke. It's pretty rare for a pooch kick to make the end zone, especially by rolling by about 8 Jets. I'm sure they'll have them drilled on the situation this week. Chatham may well be gone for Meyers. I saw new guy Spencer in on some special teams plays, but I think Chatham might be a better LB than Meyers. Can anybody find a replay of this so we can check it out and see.. because right now I'm really into it and want to see if leon did the dumb or the smart thing. Getting the ball on the 2 is a lot better than giving up 2 points. For now I'll goand try and find out if Chatham or anyone else touched the ball. The kick was very lucky, that's only going to work 1/20 times I'd say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted October 2, 2006 Share Posted October 2, 2006 Can anybody find a replay of this so we can check it out and see.. because right now I'm really into it and want to see if leon did the dumb or the smart thing. Getting the ball on the 2 is a lot better than giving up 2 points. For now I'll goand try and find out if Chatham or anyone else touched the ball. The kick was very lucky, that's only going to work 1/20 times I'd say. Not necessarily dumb or smart. If you're not sure you HAVE to take it out. Can't rely on luck. You want to call it a dumb play, imagine if he took a safety to end the game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glenn212 Posted October 2, 2006 Share Posted October 2, 2006 That play was worked on so it appeared to me..this is what I'm talking about ..freakin mangini thinks of everything.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
war ensemble Posted October 2, 2006 Share Posted October 2, 2006 Not necessarily dumb or smart. If you're not sure you HAVE to take it out. Can't rely on luck. You want to call it a dumb play, imagine if he took a safety to end the game? I suppose you're right. But what I mean is that it would've been a lot better if no one touched it and he took the knee. He probably did the best possible thing seeing the position he was in, so he did the smart thing. But if we knew, we could tell if it was the SMARTEST thing. But, of course, we can't go back in time and change it all unfortunately. Glenn, what do you mean? How can you gameplan for that exact thing? You can always tell them to take it out if you're not sure (which should be preached), but they're not going to practice that exact scenario. Leon relied on instincts I think, and it could've been the best choice... I don't know if we'll ever find out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted October 2, 2006 Share Posted October 2, 2006 I suppose you're right. But what I mean is that it would've been a lot better if no one touched it and he took the knee. He probably did the best possible thing seeing the position he was in, so he did the smart thing. But if we knew, we could tell if it was the SMARTEST thing. But, of course, we can't go back in time and change it all unfortunately. Glenn, what do you mean? How can you gameplan for that exact thing? You can always tell them to take it out if you're not sure (which should be preached), but they're not going to practice that exact scenario. Leon relied on instincts I think, and it could've been the best choice... I don't know if we'll ever find out. Glenn is talking about the Cal band play. You and I were talking about the kickoff that necessitated it. On the kickoff you hope that somebody that knows (usually the other deep man) is yelling to take it out or not take it out. Today it looked like nobody was sure. Glenn is right, that play looked practiced, which bodes well for this staff. Did they do it in camp or install it after Penny couldn't reach the end zone on the last play against the Pats? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly Posted October 2, 2006 Share Posted October 2, 2006 yeah so there i was watching leon flip it to smith(i think ) & blip...............................the tv goes blank........i'm stunned, my mind's racing over who I killed in a previous life to have this happen. I go into the other room to tell my wife what happened and my cell phone went off. I ran to answer yelling back to the mrs thats gotta be someone calling cause the jets just friggin won. Tom congratulates me on a great game & then told me what happened. Heartbreaking loss but what a great game to watch. i thoroughly enjoyed it. THANK YOU ERIC MANGINI. I for one see no problem with the home team going for a td in that situation against a high powered offense. not what I would have done but a gutsy move that backfired a little. I love the way eric has these ny jets playing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glenn212 Posted October 2, 2006 Share Posted October 2, 2006 Glenn is talking about the Cal band play. You and I were talking about the kickoff that necessitated it. On the kickoff you hope that somebody that knows (usually the other deep man) is yelling to take it out or not take it out. Today it looked like nobody was sure. Glenn is right, that play looked practiced, which bodes well for this staff. Did they do it in camp or install it after Penny couldn't reach the end zone on the last play against the Pats? Right Dominator I'm talking the Cal Band play..no one was reaching the end zone from there..-35 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetsrule128 Posted October 2, 2006 Share Posted October 2, 2006 props to gg for finiding the clip http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQPGmj4Z3Gc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LionelRichie Posted October 2, 2006 Share Posted October 2, 2006 Not necessarily dumb or smart. If you're not sure you HAVE to take it out. Can't rely on luck. You want to call it a dumb play, imagine if he took a safety to end the game? it was a dumb play and a terrible mental error, he could have downed the ball in the endzone for a touchback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
war ensemble Posted October 2, 2006 Share Posted October 2, 2006 it was a dumb play and a terrible mental error, he could have downed the ball in the endzone for a touchback. Are you 100% sure no one touched the ball before he took it out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted October 2, 2006 Share Posted October 2, 2006 Are you 100% sure no one touched the ball before he took it out? I'm not and I heard others say Chatham touched it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
war ensemble Posted October 2, 2006 Share Posted October 2, 2006 I'm not and I heard others say Chatham touched it. Yeah, I knew you weren't sure. I was addressing it more to fo_block... How about someone asks Chatham? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xcel2NuFX Posted October 3, 2006 Share Posted October 3, 2006 Someone in the middle tier of players problably could have gotten the ball had they been aware of the squib kick but nobody touched it it took a bad bounce and by the time Leon picked it up at the goal line I'm sure he was unsure both if anyone had touched the ball and if he himself was actually in or out of the endzone... Tough situation to find yourself in as a rookie in a big time game. I don't blame him and I didn't think going for it on 4th down was such a bad call. You don't beat a team like the Colts without making some risky decisions and taking some chances. Hindsight is always 20/20 so all the people hating on the call right now would be callling Mangini a genius had they scored and won the game. QUIT ACTING LIKE YOUR ALL SMARTER THAN MANGINI ITS EASY TO BE A MONDAY MORNING QUARTERBACK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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