Pragmatic Bus Posted March 20, 2007 Share Posted March 20, 2007 What kind of rational **** is that? makes perfect sense to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsnts725 Posted March 20, 2007 Share Posted March 20, 2007 124, ill drop off the bridge w/ u if they pick olsen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted March 20, 2007 Share Posted March 20, 2007 If he slipped to us in round 3 (unlikely) I'd be all for drafting Spaeth. Kid can catch AND block. Sperm, What happened to your Marshawn Lynch bandwagon? BTW, LOL @ the Olsen can't catch and block thing. Coming from someone who wants to draft a guard in the first round that can't get out of his own way when it comes to pulling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
124 Posted March 20, 2007 Author Share Posted March 20, 2007 It's the 25th pick, fellas, not the 4th. The Jets should draft the BAP. If that's Greg Olsen, then so be it. The Jets have too many holes to go BAP at 25. We are not the New England Patriots. CB, ILB or OLB (if we indeed cut / trade Barton), OL & DL are major needs. Tight End is not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasonJet Posted March 20, 2007 Share Posted March 20, 2007 It's the 25th pick, fellas, not the 4th. The Jets should draft the BAP. If that's Greg Olsen, then so be it. They should take the BAP at a position they need. The BAP philosophy is a nice thought, but you won't see the Colts or Patriots taking a QB just because one might be the BAP. With the 25th pick, the Jets should be looking offensive line, defensive line, or cornerback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsnts725 Posted March 20, 2007 Share Posted March 20, 2007 They should take the BAP at a position they need. The BAP philosophy is a nice thought, but you won't see the Colts or Patriots taking a QB just because one might be the BAP. With the 25th pick, the Jets should be looking offensive line, defensive line, or cornerback. exactly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeJetsWord Posted March 20, 2007 Share Posted March 20, 2007 They should take the BAP at a position they need. The BAP philosophy is a nice thought, but you won't see the Colts or Patriots taking a QB just because one might be the BAP. With the 25th pick, the Jets should be looking offensive line, defensive line, or cornerback. Excellent point. I'm sure the Jets feel this way too, no way they go for a TE. Too many holes, not enough need for a tight end at that spot. Plus I don't see why everyone is infatuated with this guy, we have Chris Baker who can sure as hell catch a ball... just we never use a TE, making this pick even more of a waste. Go CB, OL, or DL and we should be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pragmatic Bus Posted March 20, 2007 Share Posted March 20, 2007 exactly jets will not pick the best player available or best player they need. tannenbaum said he will pick the best value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsnts725 Posted March 20, 2007 Share Posted March 20, 2007 ....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted March 20, 2007 Share Posted March 20, 2007 Sperm, What happened to your Marshawn Lynch bandwagon? BTW, LOL @ the Olsen can't catch and block thing. Coming from someone who wants to draft a guard in the first round that can't get out of his own way when it comes to pulling. We just added Jones & gave up the value of a 3rd-rounder for him plus $5m/yr. Lynch won't slip to #25 anyway. Olsen cannot block. Plus he didn't live up to his own hype until he ran a sexy 40-time at the combine. People think that any TE who runs fast automatically means he will be Antonio Gates. Gates is Gates. And Chad can't hit a TE anyway. What good will elite speed do if the LB'er is on top of him by the time the ball gets there? And who says Schott wants pure pulling guards like Kendall? The line has no beef and is it any wonder we suck at short-yardage? When the time comes that we have no weaknesses on the OL & a mauler FB signed for more than 1 season, then we can look into 1-dimensional TE's who have coasted on their raw talent & never did anything with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted March 20, 2007 Share Posted March 20, 2007 Yeah, Olsen is yuor classic underachiever. No thanks. The Jolley comparsion was dead on imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Troll Posted March 20, 2007 Share Posted March 20, 2007 They should take the BAP at a position they need. The BAP philosophy is a nice thought, but you won't see the Colts or Patriots taking a QB just because one might be the BAP. With the 25th pick, the Jets should be looking offensive line, defensive line, or cornerback. It really depends on the people that are left on the board. If there are no o-linemen, d-linemen, or corners with a first round grade, the Jets should not reach on them. If they have someone like Olsen rated much higher than the players available at "need" positions, then he should be the pick. I am not advocating taking Olsen either. I am just saying that it's kind of dumb to draft on need alone when you have a pick that late. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pragmatic Bus Posted March 20, 2007 Share Posted March 20, 2007 tangini has already filled all there needs. they will draft who they want Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted March 20, 2007 Share Posted March 20, 2007 We just added Jones & gave up the value of a 3rd-rounder for him plus $5m/yr. Lynch won't slip to #25 anyway. Olsen cannot block. Plus he didn't live up to his own hype until he ran a sexy 40-time at the combine. People think that any TE who runs fast automatically means he will be Antonio Gates. Gates is Gates. And Chad can't hit a TE anyway. What good will elite speed do if the LB'er is on top of him by the time the ball gets there? And who says Schott wants pure pulling guards like Kendall? The line has no beef and is it any wonder we suck at short-yardage? When the time comes that we have no weaknesses on the OL & a mauler FB signed for more than 1 season, then we can look into 1-dimensional TE's who have coasted on their raw talent & never did anything with it. 1) Since when do TE's put up elite deep threat WR's YPC? So why couldn't chad use a TE? Rediculous. 2) Blocking, especially run blocking is very easy to teach so long as the player has the basics which Olsen does. 3) I say Schott wants pure pulling guards like Kendall based on the fact that they drafted pretty athletic OL last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted March 20, 2007 Share Posted March 20, 2007 Totally disagree. You don't float the ball over the middle to TE's the same way you can float them to HB's or WR's in man-coverage down the sideline or on timed curl-patterns. Chad has never hit his TE's with consistency. Over the middle you need to zip it in more, as the space a TE has is less open like a WR's patterns. Chad cannot zip the ball over the middle. He can't zip the ball anywhere. Olsen will not change Chad's arm. These elite TE's you wish we had have don't have weak-armed QB's throwing to them: Brees/Rivers, Vick, Eli/Warner/Collins, Boller/McNair, Green, etc. Their overall QB skills aside, they all have strong arms. Blocking is only easy to teach to a willing student. Olsen has never shown that he is willing to do anything other than coast on his own talent. That he did with limited success in the NCAA. In the NFL he can't. We'd need to teach him to be a hard-core football-first player and THEN teach him to block better. Easier said than done. You need a willing student. You are making an assumption based on nothing here. LT's are rarely maulers; guys like Roaf or McNeill or Ogden are rare. Mangold gets plenty of push in the running game. The fact that he can also pull is a testament to Mangold's ability, not proof that Schott wants pulling over power. Mangold was 305 as a rookie & will only get stronger. If you can have both, great. But since D'Brick is a finesse blocker himself, he needs someone with some push next to him; not another finesse blocker. Now every mauler doesn't need to be 320-340 lbs. But he was used to Dielman & Goff, who get more than enough push (particularly Dielman). Again, if you can find one who has both, then great. But I seriously doubt we take another guard who barely tips the scales at 290-300 lbs. If they were going for a finesse OL, then there's no reason to re-sign Clement who is the opposite of finesse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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